Pete Hegseth-Sec Def Nominee

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I don't disparage the lives of garbagemen. Their lives are just as valuable as yours and mine. There are already far too many "experts" out there who think by virtue of who they know, where they studied, and who their family is that it gives them a right to dispose of the lives and careers of people of every social status below theirs.

Very Maoist cultural revolution of you.

So you agree with me, it may as well have been a random garbage man.

So next time you need surgery, you will be seeking out a Grab delivery driver to cut you open?

It's like the maga movement has a death wish for the country in exchange for what? Enjoying the persecution of trans people? Drinking liberal tears? What a perverted destructive corrupt authoritarian movement. 

I hold you all ACCOUNTABLE.

Edited November 14 by Jingthing

[Gecko123]

What's really striking about the clown show parade of Trump's cabinet nominees is their lack of talent and experience in managing crises. Whether you're talking about a terrorist attack, a military attack, a banking crisis, a monetary crisis, a severe economic slowdown, a diplomatic crisis, or an extreme weather or natural disaster event, none of the ideologues appointed so far appear to have experience or skill sets in crisis management. The appointments so far appear to have made loyalty and fealty to Trump the sole hiring criteria, with almost no thought given to competency or experience. Trump's supporters may want to begin to ask themselves who is most likely to pay the price for this lack of competency and experience.

[BigStar]

6 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

The problem is nobody in the military is going to take him seriously.

 

I think they will, 'cause he'll get rid of the wuss influence return the military to the kind of bad*ss force that real men respect and want to be part of. Now they can't get new recruits for obvious reasons. 

 

 

6 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

Just as the bureaucrats in the intelligence agencies won't take Tulsi Gabbard seriously (they already think she's a Russian agent).

 

The cool thing will be when she finds out who were the idiots responsible for that little political harassment and fires them. Hee.

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

7 hours ago, LosLobo said:

The job of the DoD isn’t about glorifying combat or just to "break things and kill people"—it’s about ensuring the safety of the country through a balanced approach that includes defense, diplomacy, and national interest, not just being a 'warrior.

No dude, the Department of Defense is designed to kill and destroy. There's no need for a balance Approach at the department of defense, you have the state department and all the other hand ringers and Pearl clutchers to do the diplomacy and such like. When that doesn't work send in the Warriors to destroy.

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Very Maoist cultural revolution of you.

So you agree with me, it may as well have been a random garbage man.

So next time you need surgery, you will be seeking out a Grab delivery driver to cut you open?

It's like the maga movement has a death wish for the country in exchange for what? Enjoying the persecution of trans people? Drinking liberal tears? What a perverted destructive corrupt authoritarian movement. 

I hold you all ACCOUNTABLE.

Oh back to the trans again huh? We all know what your agenda is.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Very Maoist cultural revolution of you.

So you agree with me, it may as well have been a random garbage man.

So next time you need surgery, you will be seeking out a Grab delivery driver to cut you open?

It's like the maga movement has a death wish for the country in exchange for what? Enjoying the persecution of trans people? Drinking liberal tears? What a perverted destructive corrupt authoritarian movement. 

I hold you all ACCOUNTABLE.

Maybe you should have gone back and voted to defend your way of life!

A bit of posting on a random forum doesn't really cut it.

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Oh back to the trans again huh? We all know what your agenda is.

My agenda is to oppose when any authoritarian demagogue scapegoats any minority group for political gain. Have you studied history?

[Walker88]

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Perhaps the ones yowling and screeching with their leftover Trump obsession could take the time to read Petes book? Maybe then you will understand why this 44 year old OUTSIDER combat vet got picked.

 

But that would entail reading a book, and we know how Lefties despise the written word, preferring social media and instagram

Cute comment.

 

Since you're a fan of the POTUS-elect, maybe you can share with us a photo of his library? I understand he's big on Proust.

[Jingthing]

19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Maybe you should have gone back and voted to defend your way of life!

A bit of posting on a random forum doesn't really cut it.

You do realize expats can vote from abroad, yeah?

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

I think they will, 'cause he'll get rid of the wuss influence return the military to the kind of bad*ss force that real men respect and want to be part of. Now they can't get new recruits for obvious reasons. 

 

 

 

The cool thing will be when she finds out who were the idiots responsible for that little political harassment and fires them. Hee.

 

 

 

The reason they cannot get recruits is they have an IQ cut off, and the dumbing down of the nation makes it difficult. There are also drug issues.

 

This talk of 'real men' is kind of silly. The fans of 47 I have seen tend toward obesity, lack of definition, constant whining, and having absolutely no game when it comes to women. That's why he captured the Incel demographic. Most would require a test to see if they even carry a Y chromosome before I would believe they are men.

 

Before you ask, yes, I served, albeit in a way that had me going out against bad guys, alone, in disguise, with fake docs, and a hope that my language skills would keep me off YouTube in a graphic video. The govt spent a lot of time and money teaching me how to stay alive, and yes, I was scared to death many times while working. If that makes me a girly man, so be it. If you haven't "been there, done that", then you have no clue.

[Yagoda]

13 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Cute comment.

 

Since you're a fan of the POTUS-elect, maybe you can share with us a photo of his library? I understand he's big on Proust.

Im sure you have Mein Kampf in yours

[Jingthing]

I am learning now that Mr. Hegseth had a notorious career as a right wing college journalist at Princeton's The Tory. He distinguished himself for his extremist anti gay POV. Well that's his right and that was college but consider any Defense Secretary is the leader of the defense department -- the SECOND LARGEST employer in the entire world.

Among his underlings of course will be many LGBTQ people. That seems like an issue that he should be aggressively challenged about. Does he still view gay people as both abnormal and immoral? Does he care to apologize and clarify his current position? Imagine if his college career included publishing several RACIST tracts. Would he even be considered for this job if that was the case? Why the double standard? OK to hate gays, but not OK to hate racial minorities?  Really?

Edited November 14 by Jingthing

[bamnutsak]

Pete Hegseth throws an axe, of course it strikes a USMA drummer.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMrVdFnjEjs

 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I am learning now that Mr. Hegseth had a notorious career as a right wing college journalist at Princeton's The Tory. He distinguished himself for his extremist anti gay POV. Well that's his right and that was college. but consider any Defense Secretary is the leader of the defense department -- the SECOND LARGEST employer in the entire world.

Among his underlings of course will be many LGBTQ people. That seems like an issue that he should be challenged about. Does he still view gay people as both abnormal and immoral? Imagine if his college career included publishing several RACIST tracts. Would he even be considered for this job if that was the case? Why the double standard? 

They are only racist in your eyes and there is no anti gay POV. Homosexuality isnt a movement, its a sexual perversion and mental illness that should be the subject of help and pity. Not wanting mentally ill troops is important for military efficiency

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

They are only racist in your eyes and there is no anti gay POV. Homosexuality isnt a movement, its a sexual perversion and mental illness that should be the subject of help and pity. Not wanting mentally ill troops is important for military efficiency

I wasn't talking about racism. I was talking about his anti-gay writings at The Tory of Princeton. You can think what you like about gay people, but if you're going to be the top leader of the second largest employer in the world and many people under you are gay people, you had better not be bigoted against your employees just for their identity. 

Edited November 14 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

I think Trump picked him because he has the central casting LOOK of a defense secretary. Trump's bizarre brain thinks that way.

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I wasn't talking about racism. I was talking about his anti-gay writings at The Tory of Princeton. You can think what you like about gay people, but if you're going to be the top leader of the second largest employer in the world and many people under you are gay people, you had better not be bigoted against your employees just for their identity. 

I bet you cant find one of his writings that is bigoted LOL. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

I bet you cant find one of his writings that is bigoted LOL. 

You lose.

 

Pete Hegseth Spent His College Years Crusading Against ‘Glorification of Diversity’ And ‘The Homosexual Lifestyle’

 

Trump’s Pick For Defense Sec Spent His College Years Crusading Against ‘Glorification of Diversity’ And ‘The Homosexual Lifestyle’

[scottiejohn]

23 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I bet you cant find one of his writings that is bigoted LOL. 

How much?

 

[scottiejohn]

40 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Homosexuality isnt a movement, its a sexual perversion and mental illness that should be the subject of help and pity.

What a perverted view!

You are another dolt who needs a change of tin foil, or better still an education regarding sexual orientation!

Sexual orientation and gender diversity

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What a perverted view!

You are another dolt who needs a change of tin foil, or better still an education regarding sexual orientation!

Sexual orientation and gender diversity

Wow that was convincing

[Yagoda]

13 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

How much?

 

How much ya got?

[scottiejohn]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Wow that was convincing

So you read the whole contents of the link including the questions and answers in less than two minutes!

I am really impressed!

I am however pleased that you are convinced now and will stop your uneducated anti gay posts!

[Yagoda]

54 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You lose.

 

Pete Hegseth Spent His College Years Crusading Against ‘Glorification of Diversity’ And ‘The Homosexual Lifestyle’

 

Trump’s Pick For Defense Sec Spent His College Years Crusading Against ‘Glorification of Diversity’ And ‘The Homosexual Lifestyle’

I win. Some lefty source deciding what he says, huh? You know what independent thinking is? You ever do it?

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

So you read the whole contents of the link including the questions and answers in less than two minutes!

I am really impressed!

I am however pleased that you are convinced now and will stop your uneducated anti gay posts!

Uneducated? Have you ever read "The Pink Swatstika"?

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I win. Some lefty source deciding what he says, huh? You know what independent thinking is? You ever do it?

You're so predictable. 

[BigStar]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

The reason they cannot get recruits is they have an IQ cut off, and the dumbing down of the nation makes it difficult. There are also drug issues.

 

They lowered standards because higher quality recruits are now less interested in enlisting.

 

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

This talk of 'real men' is kind of silly. The fans of 47

 

Your impression of the fans is the usual nonsense. Hegseth served, talks quite a lot to members of the military, takes a special interest in it, and is an expert on current conditions, while you merely fantasize, demonize, and self-aggrandize at your keyboard.

 

 

Edited November 14 by BigStar

[BigStar]

On 11/13/2024 at 10:32 AM, sqwakvfr said:

I used to watch Fox & Friends  on the weekends where Hegseth is one of the hosts and watching him act like a clown at times was cringeworthy. Just can't imagine him holding a staff meeting wih the JCS.  In essence a TV personality who is a veteran has been nominated to one of the most important positions in the cabinet. 

 

Hegseth’s critics who sneer that he is unqualified because he is a Fox News host are the same people who insisted that Joe Biden was compos mentis, Harris was competent and her running mate Tim “Stolen Valor” Walz, who shirked combat and then lied about it, was some sort of military hero.

    --Dems’ attacks on the intelligent, articulate, and patriotic Pete Hegseth show why they lost – a salute to Trump’s defense secretary pick

[pattayasan]

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Hegseth’s critics who sneer that he is unqualified because he is a Fox News host are the same people who insisted that Joe Biden was compos mentis, Harris was competent and her running mate Tim “Stolen Valor” Walz, who shirked combat and then lied about it, was some sort of military hero.

    --Dems’ attacks on the intelligent, articulate, and patriotic Pete Hegseth show why they lost – a salute to Trump’s defense secretary pick

 

The problem with this logic is all the dems who wanted Biden to withdraw. The title of the article (I never read any NYP trash) suggests that all dems were pushing the line that Biden was not declining. This was clearly not the case.

[Yellowtail]

What qualifications is he supposed to be lacking? 

 

Why does having been on TV disqualify him?