Controversy Over Trans Athlete Dominates Mountain West Volleyball Tournament

[BangkokReady]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The forfeiting teams are bad sports. Reminds me of Iranians refusing to play Israelis.

 

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Reminds me of when baseball in the US was segregated.

 

You written, "reminds me", but what you appear to mean is, "I want to pretend that these things are the same for rhetorical purposes".

[Celsius]

Be respectful towards our trans member

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I understand the controversy, but I think the gender requirements for being on a certain type of team in college (and other types of) sports need to be updated. Limiting it to just "male" or "female" doesn't cut it anymore. 

 

The problem is that it very likely mentions men and women, rather than male and female.  If it was male and female, trans athletes would be out of luck, as someone born male remains male.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

What's that got to do with men in women's sports?

That's a fair question.

Were people back then afraid that black athletes were too talented?

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Celsius said:

Be respectful towards our trans member

Who is that?

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I agree, but what do we do about people who don't have only xx or xy chromosomes? Some (only 2 in 1,000) are born with XXY, a mix of chromosomes. Klinefelter Syndrome: What It Is, Symptoms & Treatment

 

   They cannot play in the game 

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That's a fair question.

Were people back then afraid that black athletes were too talented?

That's was a race thing. Nothing to do with being male or female. Your argument is spurious.

[thaibeachlovers]

Strikes me that this all a manufactured controversy designed to deflect from what a bad job the US government is doing ( it seems a peculiarly US controversy ). If people are occupied with men playing on a women's team, they ain't complaining about their deteriorating circumstances. Same goes for MMCC, covid and other irrelevances.

[James105]

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I agree, but what do we do about people who don't have only xx or xy chromosomes? Some (only 2 in 1,000) are born with XXY, a mix of chromosomes. Klinefelter Syndrome: What It Is, Symptoms & Treatment

 

The BBC give them the womens footballer of the year award despite being banned from playing football in the Africa cup of nations for failing gender eligibility tests of course.  It's been a rough few decades for the patriarchy with those pesky (actual) women getting equal rights and all that, but men have finally found a workaround using the classic "if you can't beat them join them" technique.  Go patriarchy!  

 

 

https://onefootball.com/en/news/africa-cup-of-nations-barbra-banda-banned-due-to-gender-eligibility-issues-35400347

[john donson]

forfeiting, better then allowing the cheater

[kingstonkid]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The forfeiting teams are bad sports. Reminds me of Iranians refusing to play Israelis.

How would you like some 7' 200 pound player spiking a ballin your face.  That is what it is like.

 

Imagine the outcry if Russia takes it's mens b team and they all say they are trans

 

 

Would people be happy then?

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[Cryingdick]

You would have to be a pretty self centered person to cause so many people so many problems just so you can play volleyball. 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

How would you like some 7' 200 pound player spiking a ballin your face.  That is what it is like.

Women can be that size. 

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It's a lot more than putting on a dress.

Speaking from experience?

[MalcolmB]

Women want equality until it doesn’t suit them.

 

Nobody watches women’s sports anyway. It isn’t important.

 

Putting trans in with the women makes sense. You wouldn’t want trans in our change rooms.

 

i can’t really understand why men care about this non issue.

 

 

 

 

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Who is that?

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck.

 

It must be a duck.

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck.

 

It must be a duck.

Walks like a troll, talks like a troll, smells like a troll.

 

It must be a troll.

[G_Money]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Walks like a troll, talks like a troll, smells like a troll.

 

It must be a troll.

Speaking from experience?

[quake]

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

their

 

 Just can't stop yourself can you.

[youreavinalaff]

48 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

How would you like some 7' 200 pound player spiking a ballin your face.  That is what it is like.

 

Imagine the outcry if Russia takes it's mens b team and they all say they are trans

 

 

Would people be happy then?

The person in the photo doesn't look 7' or 200lbs.

[jvs]

8 hours ago, jippytum said:

Trans athletes are cheats. 

The problem is  woke officials allowing  them compete in the first 

place. 

There should be more protest and outrage prior to tournaments allowing transgender athletes. 

 Not  waiting until  after the officials have allowed a Trans  competitor to  use an unfair advantage to win the contest. 

 

Nothing to do with woke officials,something to do with the law for sure.

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not convinced gender is really a performance issue for volleyball. Do you want her to play on the men's team?

Yes. I want him to play on men's team. As would any rational human think.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

You would have to be a pretty self centered person to cause so many people so many problems just so you can play volleyball. 

Very valid point. 

[khunJam]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's a fair question.

Were people back then afraid that black athletes were too talented?

Not the same, comparing different races competing in sports with men competing against women is like comparing cantaloupes with antelopes.

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So intersex people are what?

Look, other than intersex people etc. yes people are born male or female.

But then some people transition and they exist as human beings as well.

Of course a person born female is not the same as a transgender female but again transgender females exist in the world.

We're talking specifically about sports here, and trans women having an unfair advantage in women's sports. 

Do you agree that a man who now identifies as a woman has an advantage over born women in sports? 

 

If you do agree then surely you don't need to be defending the trans side of the argument. 

 

If you don't agree, then please explain why trans men don't make it to the top level of men's sports. 

[Nick Carter icp]

25 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Yes. I want him to play on men's team. As would any rational human think.

 

   Imagine watching the woman's volley ball, them diving all over the place and bending over , wobbling about all over the place and  , bums and breasts shaking about and then having to watch a mans bum as well in the mix .    

   "Mate , could you sit aside for  bit"

[georgegeorgia]

5 hours ago, jvs said:

Nothing to do with woke officials,something to do with the law for sure.

And so it should be !! 

We must embrace this 

[KhunLA]

Another women's sports league allowing men to play .. mind boggling.  What's the point of even having a 'women's' sports league