9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I think Musk is more interested in acquiring Hawaiian born citizenship, he can probably afford it. Of course, it is beyond the pale to investigate preposterous birth certs by anyone. Totally forbidden.

 He could be President in 2028. The second African-American President. And both from Hawaii. Very cool.

Presidency

 

The U.S. Constitution sets three clear eligibility criteria to run for president:

1. Natural-born citizen (born a U.S. citizen, not naturalized).

2. At least 35 years old.

3. A resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years.

 

Since Elon Musk was born in Pretoria, South Africa, and became a U.S. citizen through naturalization in 2002, he is not a natural-born citizen. This makes him ineligible to run for president.

 

Constitutional Amendment: The Only Path

 

The only way Elon Musk could become eligible to run for president is through a constitutional amendment. This would require:

1. Approval by a two-thirds majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

2. Ratification by three-fourths of the states (38 out of 50).

 

Such an amendment would be unprecedented and highly challenging to pass, especially for the specific purpose of allowing one individual to run.

 

Phew!

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

5 1/2 feet tall, 150 pounds weight. That indeed makes him quite small. Amoral. grubby and a grifter ? That's a matter of opinion.

6' 1"

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, it wouldn't be illegal to bypass the rules 

Seems like legally right and morally right is not the same thing.

 

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Of course he would - he is an amoral grubby little grifter who would accept money from anyone for anything.

 

   Nigel refused to accept money from the E.U 

 

Nigel Farage 'will not take a penny' of £153,000 MEP golden goodbye

Nigel Farage “will not take a penny” of the £153,000 windfall he could claim for his 20-year stint as a member of the European parliament, his spokesman has said, as the UK’s 73 MEPs are set to be told on Monday night about any cash payouts they are due.

Farage could leave the EU on 31 January with a pre-tax golden goodbye worth €178,657 (£152,992) under a European parliament “transition allowance” for ex-MEPs, a calculation based on his 20 complete years since 1999.

Asked about the transition allowance, a spokesman for Farage said: “He won’t take a penny.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/13/farage-will-not-take-a-penny-of-153000-mep-golden-goodbye-due

 

According to The Rules Based Order:

 

1.  The United States has the right to interfere in the politics of other countries.

 

2.  Other countries [such as U.K., Russia] do not have the right to interfere in U.S. politics.

 

32 minutes ago, ericbj said:

According to The Rules Based Order:

 

1.  The United States has the right to interfere in the politics of other countries.

 

2.  Other countries [such as U.K., Russia] do not have the right to interfere in U.S. politics.

 

 

What's "right" got to do with it? Reminds me of that line by Clint Eastwood in the movie Unforgiven: "'Deserves'" got nothing to do with it."

7 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

5 1/2 feet tall, 150 pounds weight. That indeed makes him quite small. Amoral. grubby and a grifter ? That's a matter of opinion.

This should read 5 feet, 8 1/2 inches. Info comes from the internet.

3 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

What's "right" got to do with it? Reminds me of that line by Clint Eastwood in the movie Unforgiven: "'Deserves'" got nothing to do with it."

I exposed the realpolitik of the situation, which is based upon power and practicalities.
And which is contrary to my opinion on how global relations should function.

 

Realpolitik is far divorced from rights and ethics, which tend to be sadly lacking in the real world.
(Look at the situation in Burma, as a glaring example)

 

On 12/3/2024 at 2:55 PM, G_Money said:

Forget Musk.

 

America’s greatest contribution to the UK is Ellen Degenerates.

 

You got her now!  Or is it him?

 

 

 

 

 

Another photo from your collection...........

 

You should come out of the closet...............😘

18 hours ago, wavodavo said:

Settle down boys.. Elon Musk has got the money  $$$$ to move to the U.K. buy a 500 million pound Castle and buy any company he likes..e.g. British Airways or a bank and then watch the government deny his donation. I don't think so.

It’s not going to happen. Never. Money has gone to his head. He’s completely mad. And the Brits or anyone else in Europe would laugh themselves silly over the suggestion. Let him stay in the US with more of his sort.  I feel very sorry for normal Americans. 

19 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

5 1/2 feet tall, 150 pounds weight. That indeed makes him quite small. Amoral. grubby and a grifter ? That's a matter of opinion.

I should have written 5 feet 8 1/2 inches.

Farridge is a lying grifter who appeals to a certain demographic.

His latest whopper is that he was told by security in the Cabinet Office not to open a Constituency Surgery in Clacton.

The Cabinet Office denied giving such advice.

I know who I believe.

6 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Farridge is a lying grifter who appeals to a certain demographic.

His latest whopper is that he was told by security in the Cabinet Office not to open a Constituency Surgery in Clacton.

The Cabinet Office denied giving such advice.

I know who I believe.

i believe Farage.

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Nigel refused to accept money from the E.U 

 

Nigel Farage 'will not take a penny' of £153,000 MEP golden goodbye

Nigel Farage “will not take a penny” of the £153,000 windfall he could claim for his 20-year stint as a member of the European parliament, his spokesman has said, as the UK’s 73 MEPs are set to be told on Monday night about any cash payouts they are due.

Farage could leave the EU on 31 January with a pre-tax golden goodbye worth €178,657 (£152,992) under a European parliament “transition allowance” for ex-MEPs, a calculation based on his 20 complete years since 1999.

Asked about the transition allowance, a spokesman for Farage said: “He won’t take a penny.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/13/farage-will-not-take-a-penny-of-153000-mep-golden-goodbye-due

 

 

While Farage' didn't accept severance pay, it's not correct to claim that he refused to accept money from the EU as he receives a pension of €73k/annum from them.

 

Farage' never explained why he would accept one payment and not the other, other than saying that he didn't see why his family should suffer🤷

23 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

5 1/2 feet tall, 150 pounds weight. That indeed makes him quite small. Amoral. grubby and a grifter ? That's a matter of opinion.

Should read 5 feet 8 1/2 inches tall.

On 12/4/2024 at 5:56 AM, wavodavo said:

Settle down boys.. Elon Musk has got the money  $$$$ to move to the U.K. buy a 500 million pound Castle and buy any company he likes..e.g. British Airways or a bank and then watch the government deny his donation. I don't think so.

Yes that's the easy part ,  ³how did that twitter story work out ?

On 12/3/2024 at 12:02 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Did you read this bit ?

 

 

The donation from Musk would likely be made through the British branch of X, which allows Musk to bypass rules regarding foreign donations to a political party, The Times reported.

 

Long overdue: Caps on political donations are being considered by ministers as part of sweeping reforms to the UK electoral system. Same should be in-place in all Western democracies.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/02/government-may-cap-uk-political-donations-to-limit-foreign-influence

14 hours ago, ericbj said:

I exposed the realpolitik of the situation, which is based upon power and practicalities.
And which is contrary to my opinion on how global relations should function.

 

Realpolitik is far divorced from rights and ethics, which tend to be sadly lacking in the real world.
(Look at the situation in Burma, as a glaring example)

 

Realpolitik is far divorced from rights and ethics, which tend to be sadly lacking in the real world.

 

But genetically speaking it's entirely within human norms. To the strongest goes the crown and all the best looking women. Genetically speaking a winner makes the babies most likely to survive. A mere 50,000 years isn't going to change genetic programming

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

i believe Farage.

Me too.

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Me too.

 

+1

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Long overdue: Caps on political donations are being considered by ministers as part of sweeping reforms to the UK electoral system. Same should be in-place in all Western democracies.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/02/government-may-cap-uk-political-donations-to-limit-foreign-influence

A little off topic,

Maybe newspapers should also have a cap on donations, The Guardian would be bust without the Bill Gates trust.

 

"However, as climate commentator Ben Pile has noted, billionaires love The Guardian and are very happy to put their hand in their pocket to support its projects. For example, according to US outlet MintPress News, a thorough sift through donations from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation shows The Guardian has received a cool $12,951,391 in support. In fact, Gates and his now ex-wife have sprayed hundreds of millions of dollars across the media landscape to support the kind of journalism they approve of."

 

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50975405/how-bill-gates-bankrolls-the-media-outlet-that-claims-its-not-backed-by-billionaires/

4 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Yes that's the easy part ,  ³how did that twitter story work out ?

 

Good.

 

Critics said Musk 'overpaid' for Twitter. Thanks to Trump and xAI, it could actually be a steal.

12 hours ago, geisha said:

It’s not going to happen. Never. Money has gone to his head. He’s completely mad. And the Brits or anyone else in Europe would laugh themselves silly over the suggestion. Let him stay in the US with more of his sort.  I feel very sorry for normal Americans. 

Most peculiar. Before i took a years hiatus from the forum, the narrative was that X was going bankrupt along with its junkie owner. I take it that was yet another nonsensical narrative by the left and their beloved "credible sources"? Credible sources which themselves now have already or are about yo go bust/get taken over and rebranded. Have to 😅😅

Musk is driven by his desire to make the world make sense again. Episodes like the biden admin and bent judges persecuting him, and farces like the biden admin awarding Ford(who had sold like a couple dozen EVs at thst stage) awards for their work on EVs while ignoring Tesla will have been a strong red pill.

Musk can and will save the Western world from the woke mind virus and anti white racism/DEI. Cheers Elon, we really needed this.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

A little off topic,

Maybe newspapers should also have a cap on donations, The Guardian would be bust without the Bill Gates trust.

 

"However, as climate commentator Ben Pile has noted, billionaires love The Guardian and are very happy to put their hand in their pocket to support its projects. For example, according to US outlet MintPress News, a thorough sift through donations from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation shows The Guardian has received a cool $12,951,391 in support. In fact, Gates and his now ex-wife have sprayed hundreds of millions of dollars across the media landscape to support the kind of journalism they approve of."

 

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50975405/how-bill-gates-bankrolls-the-media-outlet-that-claims-its-not-backed-by-billionaires/

 

Interesting. Obviously don't know what T&Cs are but a post on X platform....

 

The Guardian is not funded by Gates himself. It receives a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is independently administered. The grant is for reporting on global health and development topics. Any funded articles are marked as such.

On 12/4/2024 at 5:56 AM, wavodavo said:

Settle down boys.. Elon Musk has got the money  $$$$ to move to the U.K. buy a 500 million pound Castle and buy any company he likes..e.g. British Airways or a bank and then watch the government deny his donation. I don't think so.

 

He should buy the Labour Party - seems easy enough to do in bits, these days - then flog it off to history. 

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Interesting. Obviously don't know what T&Cs are but a post on X platform....

 

The Guardian is not funded by Gates himself. It receives a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is independently administered. The grant is for reporting on global health and development topics. Any funded articles are marked as such.

If I were handing a newspaper £13M, I'd be expecting a little something in return.

A post making unsubstantiated allegations with no supporting, credible evidence or link has been removed.

On 12/5/2024 at 9:57 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Realpolitik is far divorced from rights and ethics, which tend to be sadly lacking in the real world.

 

But genetically speaking it's entirely within human norms. To the strongest goes the crown and all the best looking women. Genetically speaking a winner makes the babies most likely to survive. A mere 50,000 years isn't going to change genetic programming

 

[Hereby is remedied "unsubstantiated allegations with no supporting, credible evidence or link" which resulted in removal of my previous post.]

 

You need to define what you mean by "strongest".

 

I presume that in the present context you are referring to the financially strongest, i.e. the wealthiest.

So George Soros would be a prime example.
A Nazi collaborator during the 39-45 War, which reinforces your view that lack of ethics can pay off.  (True, he was only a teenager assisting his father)

"George Soros CLEARLY admits to assisting Nazis to rob Hungarian Jews in WWII (CBS 1998)"

 

He gained much of his wealth through a flawed global financial system (i.e. post-1971), gaining about a billion dollars speculating against the GBP.

"How Did George Soros Break the Bank of England?"
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp

 

'(which cost me about a third of my savings)'
The fall of the GBP against the FRF over a period of months was, according to historical records, less than I recalled: from around 11 to a little over 8 French francs.

 

And later threatening starvation in Malaysia and elsewhere.

"The Day Malaysia’s Economy Fell Apart! What Happened?"

 

Before finally losing about two billion USD speculating against the yen.
This earlier statement of mine was incorrect (unless a subsequent loss is hidden somewhere):

"Soros' yen bets net him $1b in three months"
https://www.smh.com.au/business/soros-yen-bets-net-him-1b-in-three-months-20130218-2em9d.html

 

The Tobin tax, if introduced, would have put paid to such antics.

"Tobin Tax: What it is, How it Works, Examples"
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tobin-tax.asp

 

10 hours ago, ericbj said:

You need to define what you mean by "strongest".

Back in cave days strongest was the alpha male that killed all challengers.

 

Now that such is frowned on, strongest is the alpha male that is rich, powerful and gets all the best looking women as groupies.

On 12/6/2024 at 6:58 PM, ericbj said:

 

[Hereby is remedied "unsubstantiated allegations with no supporting, credible evidence or link" which resulted in removal of my previous post.]

 

You need to define what you mean by "strongest".

 

I presume that in the present context you are referring to the financially strongest, i.e. the wealthiest.

So George Soros would be a prime example.
A Nazi collaborator during the 39-45 War, which reinforces your view that lack of ethics can pay off.  (True, he was only a teenager assisting his father)

"George Soros CLEARLY admits to assisting Nazis to rob Hungarian Jews in WWII (CBS 1998)"

 

He gained much of his wealth through a flawed global financial system (i.e. post-1971), gaining about a billion dollars speculating against the GBP.

"How Did George Soros Break the Bank of England?"
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp

 

'(which cost me about a third of my savings)'
The fall of the GBP against the FRF over a period of months was, according to historical records, less than I recalled: from around 11 to a little over 8 French francs.

 

And later threatening starvation in Malaysia and elsewhere.

"The Day Malaysia’s Economy Fell Apart! What Happened?"

 

Before finally losing about two billion USD speculating against the yen.
This earlier statement of mine was incorrect (unless a subsequent loss is hidden somewhere):

"Soros' yen bets net him $1b in three months"
https://www.smh.com.au/business/soros-yen-bets-net-him-1b-in-three-months-20130218-2em9d.html

 

The Tobin tax, if introduced, would have put paid to such antics.

"Tobin Tax: What it is, How it Works, Examples"
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tobin-tax.asp