Windows 11, End of service

[thaibeachlovers]

I bet there millions of people around the world that hate MS as much as I do. I will not be buying a computer with W11, nor will I be migrating my existing computer to 11. If my W10 stops working, it'll be time to get off computers altogether. I'm still using a W7 without problems as well.

10 was worse than 7, so I can't imagine how much worse 11 will be.

[Mutt Daeng]

5 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Why do you need to call other people names and throw UNDOUNDED ACCUSATIONS when you don't know anything about Windows?
You (and many others) state yourself that you got the same message, but used a WORKAROUND to fool Microsoft on installing the upgrade on an unsupported system by disabling the compatibilty check on Upgrading to the new 23H2/24H2 versions.
I still get the Windows 11 Security upgrades and Windows 11 other ugrades.
Simply because Windows 11 has not reached yet the EOL (End Of Life) state yet.
But I will not get the Windows 11 Version upgrade anymore because Windows 11 has reached the EOS (End Of Service) state.

The WAAS (Windows As A Service) has decided to end the service but that is not the EOL of my operating system.

I know very well that there are tons of workarounds on the Internet which are meanly disabling the compability check on Upgrade (appraiserres.dl).
But that is only fooling yourself and risk loss of data as Windows is warning for this.
If it would be so easy, why is Microsoft dumping their Surface Laptops which reached the EOS state at dumping prices?

Microsoft requires a processor of the 8th generation for the 23H2/24H2 version of Windows 11 and trying to run Windows on an older processor will run you into troubles.
As you can see in the screenshot of Mutt Daeng, he uses a processor of the 6th generation.
Just like trying to mount a V8 engine in an old Trabby.

I am tired to get the FALSE ACCUSATIONS of members in here who display only their IGNORANCE on this subject and resort to throw unfounded tantrums.

 

My bad. I thought you were asking for assistance to get past your issue.

I'll take no further part in this thread. 

[PomPolo]

Posters are correct 21H2 will be end of service but I have managed to install 23H2 this time last year on Windows Home, might try an upgrade myself to the latest.  I don't think you will need to worry about Windows 11 being end of service for a while!

[impulse]

20 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Why do you need to call other people names and throw UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS when you don't know anything about Windows?

 

What name did I call you?  I asked for some information that would help people steer you in the right direction.

 

And where did I say I used any of the workarounds?  I said they exist.  I also said my old laptop (this one) is still running Win10.  That's because I didn't risk trying to fool Microsoft.  I know just enough about Windows to stay out of trouble.  Most of the time.

 

When you post up questions, you're not the only one that's benefitting from the answers.  The more information you provide, the more value the responses are to the community.

 

Along those lines, thanks to Mutt Daeng for some really useful info!

 

[Confuscious]

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I bet there millions of people around the world that hate MS as much as I do. I will not be buying a computer with W11, nor will I be migrating my existing computer to 11. If my W10 stops working, it'll be time to get off computers altogether. I'm still using a W7 without problems as well.

10 was worse than 7, so I can't imagine how much worse 11 will be.

That's the MAIN reason I decided to switch to LINUX or maybe Chromebook OS.
Tired of that Windows <deleted>.
Windows offered me to upgrade from Windows 7 to a FREE legal Windows 11 version a few years ago.
Simply because my Notebook did meet the requirements for Windows 11.
Worst decision ever.

[riclag]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

Seems to me that the OP's problem is that he's not even on Win11 yet.  He's getting the same message I got when I tried to update from Win10 to Win11.

 

There's a ton of workarounds all over YouTube and other places on the interwebs to install Win11 on a system for which Microsoft hasn't bestowed its blessings.  My old laptop (that I'm typing this on) is one of those and I'm still using Win10.  My new laptop came with an already aged version of Win11 and it's been automatically updated to 24H2.  Eezy peezy.  And when they release the next update, I expect I'll get updated to that one.  Until they release Win12.

 

 

Thanks

I bought a new Hp laptop win 10 at Walmart back in 2019  , before I moved to temporarily live here.It was a backup for my existing hp win 10 incase it sh$$ the bed.

I started using it in 2023 ! I’d like to keep using it .

[Centigrade32]

On 1/26/2025 at 3:52 AM, Confuscious said:

Yesterday, my notebook warned me about some importabt updates on Windows 11.
But on the update screen, an exclamation sign appeared and warned me to buy a new version of Windows 11 as my version reached the "end of updates.".
I went to the Microsoft site, and the end of updates was after 2 years of installation.

So, I would need to reinstall Windows 11 and all the software again OR wipe Windows completely from ho hard disk and install Linux (which was already my plan long ago).
I can keep Windows on an USB drive with the programs I might occasionaly and are not available on Linux.
What would your option be?

 

46 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Why do you need to call other people names and throw UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS when you don't know anything about Windows?
You (and many others) state yourself that you got the same message, but used a WORKAROUND to fool Microsoft on installing the upgrade on an unsupported system by disabling the compatibilty check on Upgrading to the new 23H2/24H2 versions.
I still get the Windows 11 Security upgrades and Windows 11 other ugrades.
Simply because Windows 11 has not reached yet the EOL (End Of Life) state yet.
But I will not get the Windows 11 Version upgrade anymore because Windows 11 has reached the EOS (End Of Service) state.

 

 

It's pretty obvious that you went away to do some research after your embarrassing display earlier and have now come back here pretending that you knew it all beforehand.

Seriously ironic that you accuse other posters of not knowing anything about Windows, when it's clear that you didn't and don't know that much yourself.

But the worst is your playing the victim and attacking everyone who was trying to help you. To the point where probably no one wants to get involved anymore. That's sad. Why are you behaving like that?

 

I am going to explain for the benefit of anyone else who needs help, as it's quite clear that you will act ungrateful and pretend that you knew it all before anyway.

 

Microsoft set an arbitrary bar, as they don't wants to have to guarantee compatibility with millions of old devices. That doesn't mean that they won't work perfectly. It just means if something doesn't, you cannot call them up to complain about it. THAT is what is meant by 'not being supported.' It has nothing to do with receiving updates etc. You'll get those as normal throughout the two year life cycle of the feature update. But they won't GUARANTEE it, as they don't want to be responsible....

 

Next, to address your bluffer's guide synopsis of FOOLING Microsoft. WRONG. Microsoft provided the workaround in the first place. But they are shutting down some workarounds in FUTURE feature updates. So 25H2 will make it more difficult to install for some devices. TPM2.0 was introduced between 2014 and 2016. So your device definitely has it. Similarly for Secure Boot. So there is nothing stopping your CPU from qualifying other than an age restriction.

There is nothing about your CPU that inhibits it from running Windows 11, other than an arbitrary bar, to save them having responsibility of having to support older devices and also to ensure that new security features can be implemented in future feature updates. An Intel device from 2009 or earlier may not have the capability. Intel pre 2009 is what Microsoft has blocked with 24H2. 25H2 will probably have new restrictions. 

 

Your comment

 

  

1 hour ago, Confuscious said:

Microsoft requires a processor of the 8th generation for the 23H2/24H2 version of Windows 11 and trying to run Windows on an older processor will run you into troubles.
As you can see in the screenshot of Mutt Daeng, he uses a processor of the 6th generation.
Just like trying to mount a V8 engine in an old Trabby.

 

is just artistic licence. Nonsense really. 

Microsoft know that and provided a workaround for their angry consumers. But gradually, with each new feature update they block old installation methods. Because they don't want to be supporting older and older devices. Your CPU is from 2017. 8th Gen is also from 2017. What's the difference? Just an arbitrary cut-off.

But that doesn't mean that they won't work perfectly. It's just a disclaimer in so that both sides understand that you cannot hold them responsible for any issues. When was the last time that you called Microsoft for anything anyway? 

 

See here: https://web.archive.org/web/20231228002014/https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e

 

You can see that it was Microsoft who provided the registry bypass method.

 

Another reference here: 

 

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Designed for Windows 10: 2016-2019

It seems unfair to call these PCs old. They're middle-aged at best and capable of performing just about any modern task.

Also: The ultimate Windows 11 upgrade guide: Everything you need to know

Any system designed to meet the Windows Hardware Compatibility Program specifications during this period includes a TPM 2.0, although the CPU is almost certainly not on the list of Windows 11 supported parts. If you own one of these PCs, you can use Microsoft's documented procedure to upgrade to Windows 11 by making a simple registry edit. (You'll find the details under the "Option1" heading in this article: "How to upgrade an 'incompatible' Windows 10 PC to Windows 11")

 

These PCs are likely to run Windows 11 well, and even the oldest of the bunch should be useful for at least five more years.

 

 

 

So stop over dramatising everything. It's not an issue. Install 24H2 and you are okay until mid October 2026.... or just install a version of Linux if it makes you feel better.

But don't come on here asking for advice and then act like you know it better.

 

 

 

 

[Centigrade32]

24 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thanks

I bought a new Hp laptop win 10 at Walmart back in 2019  , before I moved to temporarily live here.It was a backup for my existing hp win 10 incase it sh$$ the bed.

I started using it in 2023 ! I’d like to keep using it .

 

2019 should be covered anyway. What CPU is inside?

[Centigrade32]

1 hour ago, Confuscious said:

That's the MAIN reason I decided to switch to LINUX or maybe Chromebook OS.
Tired of that Windows <deleted>.
Windows offered me to upgrade from Windows 7 to a FREE legal Windows 11 version a few years ago.
Simply because my Notebook did meet the requirements for Windows 11.
Worst decision ever.

 

What makes it 'the worst decision'? Reinstall Windows 7 if you like it so much. 

You are making a huge drama over nothing. You are covered until October 2026. Just use RUFUS to bypass the CPU check etc

 

Further to that:

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In a separate discussion, Batard emphasizes that "Rufus only goes with the official bypasses that Microsoft themselves included, and not with an overreaching approach of disabling all hardware checks."

"Rufus is working within Microsoft's framework, with bypasses that Microsoft included for the installer, and, therefore, as has been the case ever since the release of Windows 11, I expect that the bypasses that Microsoft allows [will] not render a machine inoperative..."

 

So they are Microsoft workarounds and they will work for the lifecycle of the feature update.

[Centigrade32]

5 hours ago, Confuscious said:

I know very well that there are tons of workarounds on the Internet which are meanly disabling the compability check on Upgrade (appraiserres.dl).

 

Nice try, but appraiserres.dll doesn't work for in-place upgrades for when it comes to 24H2. Your info is outdated.

Now you can manually run the necessary Registry fixes one by one or put them together in a batch script or let Rufus do it for you.