Gender recognition bill considered for identity self-determination

[sidneybear]

5 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

You are clearly misinformed with a poor understanding of people and their communities, leading to harmful generalizations.  Bigoted comes to mind with the use of derogatory language and negative stereotypes suggests you harbor hateful beliefs about LGBTQ+ individuals. Why not keep your misinformed ideas back at home in Trumpland where they belong, there's a whole other world out there besides yours.

Well, Trump did get elected, capturing a majority of the popular vote, and his party won control of Congress and the Senate. One of his election promises was to dismantle all this gender crap, and that's exactly what he's doing, at long last. 

 

Europe and the rest of the world will follow. Thailand hasn't yet got the memo, but it will: Gender fantasy is no longer a prerequisite to its place on the world stage  

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Isn't their gender on their ID cards ?

 

Only their gender at birth.  At present it cannot be changed!

[ElwoodP]

Flame removed.

Keep it civil and polite or risk losing you posting rights.

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Only their gender at birth.  At present it cannot be changed!

 

Right, so male or female.

 

[tanner]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Simply keep your mouth firmly shut to repel any unwanted shoving.

What a twatish reply !!.

[Srikcir]

22 hours ago, sidneybear said:

Yep. If it's born with a todger, it's a boy. End of discussion and common sense won the day.

Biology is not always so precise.

    In ovotesticular disorder (sometimes also called true hermaphroditism), an individual has both ovarian and testicular tissue. The ovarian and testicular tissue may be separate, or the two may be combined in what is called an ovotestis.

    Intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit the boxes of “female” or “male.” Sometimes doctors do surgeries on intersex babies and children to make their bodies fit binary ideas of “male” or “female”. Doctors always assign intersex babies a legal sex (male or female, in most states), but, just like with non-intersex people, that doesn’t mean that’s the gender identity they’ll grow up to have. 

[sidneybear]

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

Biology is not always so precise.

    In ovotesticular disorder (sometimes also called true hermaphroditism), an individual has both ovarian and testicular tissue. The ovarian and testicular tissue may be separate, or the two may be combined in what is called an ovotestis.

    Intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit the boxes of “female” or “male.” Sometimes doctors do surgeries on intersex babies and children to make their bodies fit binary ideas of “male” or “female”. Doctors always assign intersex babies a legal sex (male or female, in most states), but, just like with non-intersex people, that doesn’t mean that’s the gender identity they’ll grow up to have. 

 

Ovotesticular disorder amounts to 1.8 cases per 10,000 live births. That's only 0.018%. Totally miniscule. You're talking total nonsense in pretending that this is an issue.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6737443/

 

The rest of these 'intersex' people are figments of their own deluded imaginations, or are the results of surgical mutilation. 

[Antti]

I wonder how progressive people see gender in other mammals. Let's say a puppy for example, do they agree that it can be either male or female and the gender can easily be verified by checking whether it has a dong or not? Or is it the same nonsense with animals?

[Luuk Chaai]

I guess they didn't get the memo !  It's official !

On his first day in office, President Donald Trump signed a raft of executive orders, including one proclaiming that the United States will only recognize “two sexes, male and female”

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

I guess they didn't get the memo !  It's official !

On his first day in office, President Donald Trump signed a raft of executive orders, including one proclaiming that the United States will only recognize “two sexes, male and female”

Why would the Thai government care what the fascist U.S. government is doing?

[Luuk Chaai]

 when you are #1 on top ...   as in the U.S.A.

 

poop rolls down hill as in everywhere else !

 

xy or xx    not lbgqzpc and sometimes y    !or any other made up combo  

 

 the female is XX and the male is XY. Every individual must have at least one X chromosome. Since the female is XX, each of her eggs has a single X chromosome. The male, being XY, can generate two types of sperm: half bear the X chromosome, half the Y.

[Rampant Rabbit]

I am a  duck and identify as  such, dont tell me Im quackers...............will the mods be removing all my critcal comments.........yawn

[Srikcir]

On 1/28/2025 at 7:56 AM, sidneybear said:

If it's born

Try to stick with the actual language of the bill.

The bill is what it is - ignorant of science and biology.

[Luuk Chaai]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Why would the Thai government care what the fascist U.S. government is doing?

 

Wake up !!!      the whole world has been put on notice !

 

 

[WDSmart]

On 1/27/2025 at 4:34 PM, snoop1130 said:

The recently implemented Marriage Equality Bill is a significant step towards equal marriage rights for all, but many who registered their marriages last week are concerned that their gender title does not align with their gender identity, and are now advocating for a Gender Recognition Bill.

Good idea! I hope my home country, the USA, will soon consider something like this. Of course, "soon" will have to be sometime after the next four years. 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

 

Wake up !!!      the whole world has been put on notice !

 

 

Yes, there is a dark wave of ignorant anti LGBT bigotry on the rise.

Thankfully, Thailand is not riding that wave.

[BangkokReady]

On 1/27/2025 at 4:34 PM, snoop1130 said:

but many who registered their marriages last week are concerned that their gender title does not align with their gender identity, and are now advocating for a Gender Recognition Bill.

 

They always want more and it is never enough for them.  Self-identification is a really slippery slope to go down.

[blaze master]

Someone who is bulimic looks in the mirror and identifies as a fat person. We call them mentally unstable.

 

[mlkik]

8 hours ago, blaze master said:

Someone who is bulimic looks in the mirror and identifies as a fat person. We call them mentally unstable.

 

Yes and a bigot is a bigot. Look in your mirror. 

[blaze master]

35 minutes ago, mlkik said:

Yes and a bigot is a bigot. Look in your mirror. 

 

Grow up. You sound strange.

[Luuk Chaai]

On 1/30/2025 at 2:52 PM, Jingthing said:

Yes, there is a dark wave of ignorant anti LGBT bigotry on the rise.

Thankfully, Thailand is not riding that wave.

a dark wave of ignorant ?

or is it an overwhelming disire to tell the world mommy never liked you ?

I would say it's more like ...

 why do people need a label to do what they want ?

[MarkBR]

On 1/29/2025 at 6:11 AM, Srikcir said:

Biology is not always so precise.

    In ovotesticular disorder (sometimes also called true hermaphroditism), an individual has both ovarian and testicular tissue. The ovarian and testicular tissue may be separate, or the two may be combined in what is called an ovotestis.

    Intersex is a general term used for a variety of situations in which a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t fit the boxes of “female” or “male.” Sometimes doctors do surgeries on intersex babies and children to make their bodies fit binary ideas of “male” or “female”. Doctors always assign intersex babies a legal sex (male or female, in most states), but, just like with non-intersex people, that doesn’t mean that’s the gender identity they’ll grow up to have. 

Also depends on the SRY gene, since this is key determinant of whether the phenotype is male.

[proton]

On 1/27/2025 at 4:34 PM, snoop1130 said:

In Thailand, the stigma surrounding intersex identities persists

 

Nonsense

[0ffshore360]

On 1/30/2025 at 2:52 PM, Jingthing said:

Yes, there is a dark wave of ignorant anti LGBT bigotry on the rise.

Thankfully, Thailand is not riding that wave.

Worse than ! There are those that continue to believe the US dictates everything.

[Karma80]

On 1/29/2025 at 7:31 PM, Luuk Chaai said:

I guess they didn't get the memo !  It's official !

On his first day in office, President Donald Trump signed a raft of executive orders, including one proclaiming that the United States will only recognize “two sexes, male and female”

Remind me why the Kingdom of Thailand should care about the whims of the President of another country?