13 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Putin hasn't said that at all, the US been poking the bear since 2014 when they orchestrated the coup and ousted the pro Russain leaning president. 🤡

Propagana.  You are earning your Russian toll farm money tonight. 

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Sure, everything what's not coming from Dems is propaganda, even if you can prove it that it's not🤣

I'm not a Democrat.  

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Counties joined NATO for protection after Putin.  Putin and Russia are evil. 

Your profile name suits for sure

Just now, frank83628 said:

Your profile name suits for sure

 

How much does the troll farm pay you? 

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Propagana.  You are earning your Russian toll farm money tonight. 

Its a well know fact. You just don't want to hear it. As far as you now the the war started in Febb 22 and you believe whatever the mainstream media tell you.

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

How much does the troll farm pay you? 

More than your pension payments

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Your profile name suits for sure

BTW..This was Putin stated reason for the invasion. 

 

Minutes after Putin's announcement, the invasion began. Before 5 a.m. Kyiv time on 24 February, Putin, in another speech, announced a "special military operation", which effectively declared war on Ukraine. Putin said the operation was to "protect the people" of the Russian-controlled breakaway republics.

Just now, frank83628 said:

More than your pension payments

 

I'm not drawing a pension payment yet.    

5 hours ago, candide said:

Count how much the EU plus individual EU countries sent so far..🙂

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-humanitarian-and-financial-aid-donors/

Europe as a whole has clearly overtaken the US in terms of Ukraine aid. In total, Europe has allocated EUR 70 billion in financial and humanitarian aid as well as EUR 62 billion in military aid. This compares to EUR 64 billion in military aid from the US as well as EUR 50 billion in financial and humanitarian allocations. (Iwf.com)

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Its a well know fact. You just don't want to hear it. As far as you now the the war started in Febb 22 and you believe whatever the mainstream media tell you.

 

This is Putin stated reason. 

 

Minutes after Putin's announcement, the invasion began. Before 5 a.m. Kyiv time on 24 February, Putin, in another speech, announced a "special military operation", which effectively declared war on Ukraine. Putin said the operation was to "protect the people" of the Russian-controlled breakaway republics.

7 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I'm not a Democrat.  

The worse 

@frank83628  Russia is a paper tiger.  I wish the West would grow some balls and punch Russia in the face. 

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

The worse 

The worse what? 

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

This is Putin stated reason. 

 

Minutes after Putin's announcement, the invasion began. Before 5 a.m. Kyiv time on 24 February, Putin, in another speech, announced a "special military operation", which effectively declared war on Ukraine. Putin said the operation was to "protect the people" of the Russian-controlled breakaway republics.

Yes, the areas when Russia now controls.

Putin did whatbhe said he would 

 

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yes, the areas when Russia now controls.

Putin did whatbhe said he would 

 

I thought you said the war about NATO expansion.   Why can't the Russian troll farm keep their narrative straight? 

19 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Who invaded who? 

Russia invaded the Ukraine and took the Crimea, now they have invaded the Ukraine once again.

 

If you don't understand that you should do at lot more research and go back to school to relearn modern history.

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Russia invaded the Ukraine and took the Crimea, now they have invaded the Ukraine once again.

 

If you don't understand that you should do at lot more research and go back to school to relearn modern history.

Be quiet.  The adults are speaking. 

5 hours ago, candide said:

Count how much the EU plus individual EU countries sent so far..🙂

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-humanitarian-and-financial-aid-donors/

OMG ! real, actual, most likely; ......Facts

38 minutes ago, nomad22 said:

 

If everyone thought like you do it would be inevitable Russia would next take Poland, Lithuania, Finland........

 

A dictator like Vlad will not stop unless the world stands up against him.

Utter rubbish, why would Russia want any of the bankrupt European countries if he did he would have invaded  years ago, and if NATO thought Europe was under threat it would have gone to war in 2022, Europe has not built its forces up in 3 years as it knows there is no threat ,   this war is about natural resources that the west wants, and getting Ukraine into NATO, the lives lost do not matter to the defense industry they have made billions out of Ukraine. billions out of Afghanistan, 2 gulf wars Libya, remember global Jihad that was going to destroy  the western world, well lucky a few billion was spent on that, and in the last 40 years, has the average person in the west life style improved

And remember the people of western Ukraine are ethnically Russian and speak Russian, it was Zelenskyy who was banning speaking Russian and banning the Russian orthodox church etc etc, anyone with a basic knowledge of world affairs knows that the Russians have been goaded for years over Ukraine, anyway China is the new threat,  billions must be spent or we will all be speaking Chinese. don't forget India, print Billions more or else  

3 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Be quiet.  The adults are speaking. 

And who made YOU the Grand Poo Bah to decide who can post or not? 

 

If you post on an open thread, anybody can answer. If you don't like the post, then ask for clarification, but don't attack the poster, it shows your immaturity that you have no answer but an insult.

5 hours ago, hotsun said:

Europe and europeans should be focused on their domestic terrorist problem and not anyone else

how about the big picture, buddy? Your blase attitude  reminds me of that song - 'whose that knockin' on my door? once Putin gets what he wants, with the help of the USA's shortsighted leaders, he will continue to gobble up more of Eastern Europe.

4 minutes ago, paddypower said:

how about the big picture, buddy? Your blase attitude  reminds me of that song - 'whose that knockin' on my door? once Putin gets what he wants, with the help of the USA's shortsighted leaders, he will continue to gobble up more of Eastern Europe.

European leaders are focusing on the big picture, nay distracting their populace with this, while they lay the groundwork for europes civil war against islam. Then will europe still care about russian hegemony?

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, the former (dem) Presidents had been unsuccessful to stop any war but create.

So, if this (strange) one will create peace and tear down the image of Russia being an all time enemy (formed by former administratoons) and respect their security/borders and invite to international conferences (G8) it will the better for the world. 

Put yourself into Putin's shoes will help.

Also he sent a wake-up call to Europe to grow up and defend themselves, not only by waving the flag of democracy.

Agreed.

53 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Propagana.  You are earning your Russian toll farm money tonight. 

 

That's just what J.D. Vance said the other day during the Munich conference.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/vance-uses-munich-speech-criticize-europe-censoring-free-speech-2025-02-14/

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceve3wl21x1o

 

Vance said: “If you are afraid of the voices, the opinions and the conscience that guide your very own people … If you’re running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you, nor for that matter is there anything you can do for the American people.”

 

Vance said: “For years we have been told everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values, everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defence of democracy, but when we see European courts cancelling elections and senior officials threatening to cancel others we ought to ask ourselves if we are holding ourselves to an appropriately high standard.”

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Russia invaded the Ukraine and took the Crimea, now they have invaded the Ukraine once again.

 

If you don't understand that you should do at lot more research and go back to school to relearn modern history.

Modern history would tell you that eastern Ukraine is largely Russian speaking, and has suffered many atrocities at the hands of the government in Kyev.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Look at Starmer's face. He's absolutely loving it. Hobnobbing with the EU.

 

Expect lots of UK money to be poured into this as Two Teir Keir tries to ingratiate himself with the EU politicians.

 

 

Every English person I know reports back, after visiting their homeland in, say that past 5 years, that it is the most depressing visit they have ever had. One exception is a friend of mine, who is a Nigel Farange fan (understandably, as he is the most opportunist and brilliant communicator in England). Since you appear to be a fan of the recent list of useless Tory Prime Ministers I would classify your remark  about Starmer as the pot calling the kettle black.

16 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Modern history would tell you that eastern Ukraine is largely Russian speaking, and has suffered many atrocities at the hands of the government in Kyev.

The people of Ukraine suffered horribly under the USSR.  When the USSR fell the people decided to go their own way.   

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Modern history would tell you that eastern Ukraine is largely Russian speaking, and has suffered many atrocities at the hands of the government in Kyev.

Right.

Well, go for some examples:

What would happen if Russia would take over the Channel Islands? Would it be a threat to UK? Definitely!

What would happen if Russia would take over Mexico?

Would it be a threat to US?

Definitely!

And now think of Ukraine (or the Baltics?)

I agree with you. I just wanted to make it clearer to some who don't know.

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

The people of Ukraine suffered horribly under the USSR.  When the USSR the people decided to go their own way.   

 

Propaganda!

24 minutes ago, howerde said:

Utter rubbish, why would Russia want any of the bankrupt European countries if he did he would have invaded  years ago, and if NATO thought Europe was under threat it would have gone to war in 2022, Europe has not built its forces up in 3 years as it knows there is no threat ,   this war is about natural resources that the west wants, and getting Ukraine into NATO, the lives lost do not matter to the defense industry they have made billions out of Ukraine. billions out of Afghanistan, 2 gulf wars Libya, remember global Jihad that was going to destroy  the western world, well lucky a few billion was spent on that, and in the last 40 years, has the average person in the west life style improved

And remember the people of western Ukraine are ethnically Russian and speak Russian, it was Zelenskyy who was banning speaking Russian and banning the Russian orthodox church etc etc, anyone with a basic knowledge of world affairs knows that the Russians have been goaded for years over Ukraine, anyway China is the new threat,  billions must be spent or we will all be speaking Chinese. don't forget India, print Billions more or else  

Putin has invaded Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine since he became President. Would have taken Kosovo when he was secretary of Russia Security Council. If you don;t see his imperialistic ambition, you have drank too  much of Russian kool-aid.