US Halts Military Aid to Ukraine Amid Push for Peace Talks

[transam]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why?

All war mongers should put their boots where their mouths are and go fight for whichever side they support. It's not like they won't be welcomed.

 

Hiding behind their computer screens while others do the hard yards is cowardly, IMO.

 

Old- no problem, armies need waiters in the officers mess and bottle washers. Free up a Ukrainian to go die for Zelensky.

Another daft post, this is a chat forum, what are you hiding from on here........?  🙄

[BerndD]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A letter from Putin to Zelensky.

 

You think you can win- bring it on, soon to be ex president.

 

Haha.

Morons are all over the world. Also at thai beaches.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, BerndD said:

Morons are all over the world. Also at thai beaches.

I agree. I saw a lot of tourist morons at Thai beaches.

[Dirk Z]

USA. U for Unreliable, Unpredictable, Untrustworthy, Unsympathetic, Unfriendly? Pick your choice. Or maybe all of them: UUUUUSA.

[simple1]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

But they were not from his speaches were they, at no point has Putin said he wants to restore Soviet era territory. You can post western opinions of what he said all day long, its Still untrue

 

To repeat their has been numerous reports / quotes from Putin establishing his vision for rebuilding the Russian Empire.  A few more links ...

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-belarus-strategy-document-230035184.html

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ukraine-russia-tsar-peter-great-imperialism-rcna32909

 

I usually do not accuse someone of being an apologist for Putin, but in your case I will make an exception with your hair splitting and attempts at denial for authoritarians. I will not bother to respond to anymore of your trolling activity in this topic.

[MikeandDow]

33 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

To repeat their has been numerous reports / quotes from Putin establishing his vision for rebuilding the Russian Empire.  A few more links ...

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-belarus-strategy-document-230035184.html

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ukraine-russia-tsar-peter-great-imperialism-rcna32909

 

I usually do not accuse someone of being an apologist for Putin, but in your case I will make an exception with your hair splitting and attempts at denial for authoritarians. I will not bother to respond to anymore of your trolling activity in this topic.

Guy is a troll,  it is a well know FACT that Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire.  Its a know Fact Putin is a megalomaniac and thinks he is peter the great !!

[Yellowtail]

Just now, MikeandDow said:

Guy is a troll,  it is a well know FACT that Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire.  Its a know Fact Putin is a megalomaniac and thinks he is peter the great !!

Which does matters not in the scheme of things. What matters, is to stop Russia, stop the killing, arm Ukraine, and strengthen NATO. 

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Guy is a troll,  it is a well know FACT that Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire.  Its a know Fact Putin is a megalomaniac and thinks he is peter the great !!

Leftist opinion. Not fact at all.

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Which does matters not in the scheme of things. What matters, is to stop Russia, stop the killing, arm Ukraine, and strengthen NATO. 

Agree if i had my way there would already be boots on the ground !!  intresting Fact ! now that the us has stoped supporting  Ukraine can they Now use there long range rockets to full effect and hit moscow  the us had stopped  Ukraine from using long range weapons

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Agree if i had my way there would already be boots on the ground !!  intresting Fact ! now that the us has stoped supporting  Ukraine can they Now use there long range rockets to full effect and hit moscow  the us had stopped  Ukraine from using long range weapons

Are you or your kids going to join the fight? 

 

Whose long-range rockets are Ukraine going to use to hit Moscow? 

 

[johng]

5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

can they Now use there long range rockets to full effect and hit moscow

 

No because
a: They dont have any of their own.

b: The rockets would need guidance from US military assets...
and c  Kiev would receive at least equall retaliation  but likely major destruction.

 

P.S Ukraine has lost this war...long past time to sit down with the Russians and negotiate a peace deal.

 

 

 

 

 

[MikeandDow]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are you or your kids going to join the fight? 

 

Whose long-range rockets are Ukraine going to use to hit Moscow? 

 

Do not be stupid  ridiculous statment     Atacms,Storm Shadow, Peklo,       

[MikeandDow]

4 minutes ago, johng said:

 

No because
a: They dont have any of their own.

b: The rockets would need guidance from US military assets...
and c  Kiev would receive at least equall retaliation  but likely major destruction.

 

P.S Ukraine has lost this war...long past time to sit down with the Russians and negotiate a peace deal.

 

 

 

 

 

of course they have there own its named Peklo, they also have Atacms,Storm Shadow, already stock piled  Atacms us , Storm Shadow uk/ french

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, MikeandDow said:

Do not be stupid  ridiculous statment     Atacms,Storm Shadow, Peklo,       

I made no statement, I only asked two questions. 

 

Are you or your kids going to join the fight? 

 

 

 

I do not think the Atacms, Storm Shadow or Peklo have the range to hit Moscow from Ukraine. 

 

 

 

 

 

[johng]

3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

of course they have there own its named Peklo

Well tell them to use use um fast

as (i'm pretty sure it was)

"Stormin Norman" said use them or loose them.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I made no statement, I only asked two questions. 

 

Are you or your kids going to join the fight? 

 

 

 

I do not think the Atacms, Storm Shadow or Peklo have the range to hit Moscow from Ukraine. 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you keep asking folk here about them and their kids joining the fight......? 🤔

[spidermike007]

Trump is a childish clown who has very little understanding of geopolitics and is in the pocket of Putin on some level none of us really know exactly what Putin has on them but there's no doubt that he has something. And then there's just his simple love for despots and dictators. 

 

Trump has betrayed every ally America has ever had, and he is diminishing the US daily, contrary to what he says. He's making America smaller and less significant every month his pathetic self remains in office. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Why do you keep asking folk here about them and their kids joining the fight......? 🤔

I only ask the folks that want to send other kids to join the fight, not everyone. 

[johng]

1 minute ago, transam said:

them and their kids joining the fight.

because they seem hell bent on sending everyone elses kids to die ?

Instead of persuing peace.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I only ask the folks that want to send other kids to join the fight, not everyone. 

Why do 'kids' join the military, and always have....?  🤔

[Yellowtail]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Trump is a childish clown who has very little understanding of geopolitics and is in the pocket of Putin on some level none of us really know exactly what Putin has on them but there's no doubt that he has something. And then there's just his simple love for despots and dictators. 

 

Trump has betrayed every ally America has ever had, and he is diminishing the US daily, contrary to what he says. He's making America smaller and less significant every month his pathetic self remains in office. 

You seem like a childish clown who has very little understanding of geopolitics. You have no evidence that Trump is in Putin's pocket, it's just a leftist talking point that has been regurgitated for years. Anyone that knows anything US Russian relations knows Obama and Biden were much friendlier to Putin than Trump is. 

 

 

 

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

because they seem hell bent on sending everyone elses kids to die ?

Instead of persuing peace.

But they are pursuing peace.........😉

[BerndD]

44 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Leftist opinion. Not fact at all.

Harrisfan?  No, Putinfan!

And this is fact!

[BerndD]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You seem like a childish clown who has very little understanding of geopolitics. You have no evidence that Trump is in Putin's pocket, it's just a leftist talking point that has been regurgitated for years. Anyone that knows anything US Russian relations knows Obama and Biden were much friendlier to Putin than Trump is. 

 

 

 

 

Funny guy with a yellow tail, but not a serious thinker.

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You seem like a childish clown who has very little understanding of geopolitics. You have no evidence that Trump is in Putin's pocket, it's just a leftist talking point that has been regurgitated for years. Anyone that knows anything US Russian relations knows Obama and Biden were much friendlier to Putin than Trump is. 

 

 

 

 

Oh dear, attacking members again, you, the bloke that's the fly on the wall that knows everything about all the Presidents...............🤣

Sunbeam, you have a "leftist" problem, perhaps you need counciling, you could do a threesome with Trump & Vance...........

[johng]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

But they are pursuing peace.........😉

yes of course war is peace !

[transam]

1 minute ago, johng said:

yes of course war is peace !

No, there is a war, but peace has been an ongoing thing. Who is going to stop fighting until there is a breakthrough, there is no waaaay Ukraine would trust Putin or now even dodgy Trump...😬

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh dear, attacking members again, you, the bloke that's the fly on the wall that knows everything about all the Presidents...............🤣

Sunbeam, you have a "leftist" problem, perhaps you need counciling, you could do a threesome with Trump & Vance...........

One does have to be fly on the wall. If one reads a bit, they would:
 
Remember in the Debate when Romney claimed Russian was the greatest geopolitical threat, and Obama scoffing and joking: Senator, the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. 
Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for "space" until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense.
Remember the "Russian Reset".
Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine.
Remember Obama did nothing in 2014 when Putin invaded and began the occupation of Crimea. 

 

And one would note that: 

Then Trump places sanctions on Russia. 
Then Trump kills 200 of Russia's Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
Then Trump begins shipping arms, including Javelin missiles to Ukraine. 

 

And one would: 

Now remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump to gain favor with Putin. 
Now remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine to gain favor with Putin. 
Now remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan, emboldening Putin. 
Now remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion, further emboldening Putin. 

 

The left seemed to care nothing about Ukraine until it became politically expedient for them to use in attacking Trump and to pretend Trump was a Russian asset. 

 

The American left would rather see every Ukrainian dead and half of Europe flattened than to see a peace agreement negotiated by Trump. 
 

Reading is FUNdamental 🤣 🤣 🤣

[transam]

32 minutes ago, johng said:

because they seem hell bent on sending everyone elses kids to die ?

Instead of persuing peace.

Why do "kids" join the military and always have...? 🤔

[transam]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

One does have to be fly on the wall. If one reads a bit, they would:
 
Remember in the Debate when Romney claimed Russian was the greatest geopolitical threat, and Obama scoffing and joking: Senator, the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. 
Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for "space" until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense.
Remember the "Russian Reset".
Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine.
Remember Obama did nothing in 2014 when Putin invaded and began the occupation of Crimea. 

 

And one would note that: 

Then Trump places sanctions on Russia. 
Then Trump kills 200 of Russia's Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
Then Trump begins shipping arms, including Javelin missiles to Ukraine. 

 

And one would: 

Now remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump to gain favor with Putin. 
Now remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine to gain favor with Putin. 
Now remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan, emboldening Putin. 
Now remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion, further emboldening Putin. 

 

The left seemed to care nothing about Ukraine until it became politically expedient for them to use in attacking Trump and to pretend Trump was a Russian asset. 

 

The American left would rather see every Ukrainian dead and half of Europe flattened than to see a peace agreement negotiated by Trump. 
 

Reading is FUNdamental 🤣 🤣 🤣

There ya go again, THE LEFT...........🙄