Social Media Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Surrey Police have come under criticism for refusing to clarify whether a wanted "female" suspect is biologically male, prompting accusations that the force is misleading the public and hindering efforts to locate the individual. The controversy erupted after police issued a public appeal seeking information on the whereabouts of 49-year-old Skyla Stone, who failed to appear in court twice. The force initially described Stone as a "woman" and used the pronouns "she/her," stating: "We are appealing for the public’s help in finding wanted woman Skyla Stone. She is described as white, with brown hair and blue/green eyes and has links to Guildford." However, following public criticism, the police later updated their appeal to describe Stone as a "transgender woman" but continued to use female pronouns. Lisa Townsend, Surrey’s police and crime commissioner, was among those rebuking the decision, asserting that Stone is "a male, however they choose to identify." Heather Binning of the Women’s Rights Network (WRN) expressed concerns that the force’s wording could "seriously mislead the public and possibly put people in danger." The Surrey branch of WRN also criticized the police for making "it harder for this person to be located." Helen Joyce, director of advocacy at Sex Matters, linked the issue to broader concerns raised in the recent Sullivan review, which recommended that police forces record a person’s biological sex rather than their self-declared gender identity. "The day after the publication of the Sullivan review, which revealed widespread destruction of data on sex, we see a shocking example of the harms this does in policing," Joyce said. She further argued that using the term "transgender woman" still misleads the public, as "lots of people don’t know that a ‘transgender woman’ is not a woman at all, but a man who merely identifies as a woman." Calling the police’s wording "ideologically motivated nonsense," she warned that it undermines public trust and makes it harder for law enforcement to do their job. Deputy Chief Constable Nev Kemp defended the force’s approach, explaining that while they aim to respect personal pronouns, there is no national guidance on how such cases should be handled. "We have reviewed this appeal and have determined that it would have been appropriate to describe the person as a transgender woman, or someone who identified as a woman, to support our objective of finding and detaining this suspect," he stated. He confirmed that the force had since amended the appeal and was awaiting guidance from the National Police Chiefs Council on appropriate language use. This case has reignited debates over how police should handle gender identity in public appeals, with critics arguing that prioritizing self-identification over biological sex could compromise public safety and impede accurate data collection on issues affecting women. Based on a report by The Telegraph 2025-03-24 1 2
Popular Post Social Media Posted March 24 Author Popular Post Posted March 24 @MalcolmB enough of the off topic diversion attempts from the two posts I have just removed of yours. 1 5
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 Ridiculous. This is literally a case of endangering everyone just to not offend a very tiny minority. A perfect microcosm of the whole trans debate. 1 10 2 2
Andre0720 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 With eyelashes like that, would need a pic of the chest to ascertain gender. Would depend on the use of the eyelashes. Women use them to 'look pretty,. Men are more practical. Certainly uses them in case they fall off a boat, can be used for swimming to shore. Well, what else could they be for on a man?? 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 35 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Ridiculous. This is literally a case of endangering everyone just to not offend a very tiny minority. A perfect microcosm of the whole trans debate. How’s it a case of ‘endangering everyone’. The police have named the fugitive and published their mugshot. 3 1 4
Popular Post Baht Simpson Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 Surely to God if you're asking people to look out for someone who's a transgender woman you have to describe them as they appear. Whatever your thoughts about biological sex and the transgender issues you have to give a description that will allow people to identify them. It's no good describing this person as a man because that's what he was assigned at birth. 3 2
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: How’s it a case of ‘endangering everyone’. The police have named the fugitive and published their mugshot. I figured you'd be along soon to defend the undefendable. Don't you ever get tired of being awful to people just because your warped ideology says it's OK? 1 3 1 1 2 5
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Baht Simpson said: Surely to God if you're asking people to look out for someone who's a transgender woman you have to describe them as they appear. Whatever your thoughts about biological sex and the transgender issues you have to give a description that will allow people to identify them. It's no good describing this person as a man because that's what he was assigned at birth. In the photo he looks like a man. 4 3 2 1
proton Posted March 24 Posted March 24 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: How’s it a case of ‘endangering everyone’. The police have named the fugitive and published their mugshot. Then misgendered the weirdo, thought that was a no no? 1
mikeymike100 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 " "She further argued that using the term "transgender woman" still misleads the public, as "lots of people don’t know that a ‘transgender woman’ is not a woman at all, but a man who merely identifies as a woman." Calling the police’s wording "ideologically motivated nonsense," she warned that it undermines public trust and makes it harder for law enforcement to do their job." The above sentence describes the problem exactly! 1 1
Popular Post soalbundy Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Grumpy one said: Receding hairline makes him very ladylike NOT 'She' also hasn't shaved in that pic. 1 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, BangkokReady said: I figured you'd be along soon to defend the undefendable. Don't you ever get tired of being awful to people just because your warped ideology says it's OK? You obviously don’t understand what defense I’m calling for. I asked you to explain how’s it a case of ‘endangering everyone’. The police have named the fugitive and published their mugshot. Let’s see you defend your claim. 4 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Ridiculous. This is literally a case of endangering everyone just to not offend a very tiny minority. A perfect microcosm of the whole trans debate. 1 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted March 24 Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Baht Simpson said: Surely to God if you're asking people to look out for someone who's a transgender woman you have to describe them as they appear. Whatever your thoughts about biological sex and the transgender issues you have to give a description that will allow people to identify them. It's no good describing this person as a man because that's what he was assigned at birth. I think the mug shot does that, don’t you? 1
Popular Post Hatari fan Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 The UK is getting crazier for every day and the police seem to be leading the way. 2 1
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 The UK needs to stop this utter crap. Stamer refused to define what a woman was when asked, they just pander to the current fad in order to gain votes, the UK needs Trump style attitude in there to sort that gender trans bullsh out once n for all, 2 1 2 2
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 40 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: In the photo he looks like a man. There is a very good reason for that🤣 5
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 16 minutes ago, frank83628 said: The UK needs to stop this utter crap. Stamer refused to define what a woman was when asked, they just pander to the current fad in order to gain votes, the UK needs Trump style attitude in there to sort that gender trans bullsh out once n for all, Quite correct let's stop all this confusion & call a spade a spade & buy a box of tissues for all the ones that don't agree 3
Popular Post dinsdale Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 Another example of the insanity of the progressive woke left ideology. At least the US is now freeing itself from this absolute nonsense. 4 1
connda Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Walter Goggin's Venus Van Dam on Sons of Anarchy is an absolute stunner compared to this guy, errr gal, errr whatever. ❤️ the fake boobs. 1
Popular Post connda Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 5 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Ridiculous. This is literally a case of endangering everyone just to not offend a very tiny minority. A perfect microcosm of the whole trans debate. Yep. 2 2 1
connda Posted March 24 Posted March 24 50 minutes ago, Hatari fan said: The UK is getting crazier for every day and the police seem to be leading the way. You need the police to lead the charge when your twisted elites want to create a police state. 1 1
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 23 minutes ago, connda said: Walter Goggin's Venus Van Dam on Sons of Anarchy is an absolute stunner compared to this guy, errr gal, errr whatever. ❤️ the fake boobs. Still a man with plastic boobs. Better looking ones than that in Nana Plaza. 2 1
Popular Post digger70 Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 Police Face Backlash Over refusing to say that wanted ‘female’ is actually male. Why not make it easy for the public to understand and see what they are dealing with, It's a Wolf in sheep's clothing so to say,, ,A man wannabe a Women. Tell the public it's a men dressed like a women, that is clear to understand for everyone . 1 2
Grumpy one Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: 'She' also hasn't shaved in that pic. Some on here that prefer this type of person will be drooling all over the place Personally, it scares the crap out of me 1 1
Purdey Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Imagine if they had said "man" and everyone was ignoring someone in a dress. 1
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted March 24 Popular Post Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: how’s it a case of ‘endangering everyone’. [sic] OK. Fairly simple. I'm sure you know all of this, but just don't want to be honest about it. 1. Only giving the assumed name, when the person could be using their real name. 2. Referring to the suspect as a women, when "she" clearly has the appearance of a man makes identification harder (I know you think the "but the mugshot" argument is a get out, but people don't see a mugshot walking down the street, please learn to think critically). 3. Describing the person as a woman means that someone could believe that they have female physiology and are less dangerous than they really are, leading to someone being put in danger. 4. If police staff believe her to be a woman, then, once caught, she might be secured somewhere with women, putting them in danger. 5. If police officers believe her to be a woman, then officers might use less force when making an arrest, believing her to have the strength of a woman, rather than an adult man. The list could go on, as there are so many scenarios where it could cause harm. But I think that's plenty to support my point and prove you wrong (as usual). It's pretty clear how correct I am. I'd love to see you back up your points like this now and then, but we both know you don't because you can't. 1 1 1 1
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