Trump is not an Idiot

[rough diamond]

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You'd reply, but those pesky facts scuttle hivemind narratives. Trump did not tell anyone to inject bleach, anyone saying he did is a liar. 

I suggest you stop the semantics and get back to the OP.

Trump IS an idiot. End of story.

Look what he has just done to cause China who has now responded with 84% revenge tariffs!

Good by US exports and goodbye US imports.

Enjoy your isolationism.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You'd reply, but those pesky facts scuttle hivemind narratives. Trump did not tell anyone to inject bleach, anyone saying he did is a liar. 

Theoretically correct but he is waxing lyrical about possible treatments - including injecting disinfectant - like he is knowledgeable - but coming across like a child. I would suggest if this is one of the worst examples  of lack of fairness to Trump then it suggests his treatment hasn't been too bad. 

[beautifulthailand99]

I wonder if the reason Trump is prepared to take such a huge gamble on this working out is because he can't run for office again and even if its a disaster it won't personally effect him and his family, they'll still be able to swan about golf courses and mar-a-lago whilst their country crumbles around them. If there is some 4D chess vision behind this madness - like some reset of the entire international economic order with the US as the unrivalled hegemon - and it works out, Trump gets to bask in the glory of it. In other words, for the Trump dynasty, they perceive no downside. If there truly is a conspiratorial deep state like he likes to opine about then he truly is a dead man walking.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

To suggest cows can get BSE from the ribeye leftovers in a normal household is ludicrous.

I agree. Restaurants and large catering events are a different story.

 

Get back to me after you have educated yourself on how blood and bone fertilizer is manufactured,

[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I agree. Restaurants and large catering events are a different story.

 

Get back to me after you have educated yourself on how blood and bone fertilizer is manufactured,

 

You known damn well this is total nonsense. The UK government found BSE was caused by genetic mutation, not any kind of cattle feed.

 

So basically Australia is keeping out US beef as a pretext, when its own cows could easily suffer the genetic misfortune of BSE at some point.

 

It is all a pack of lies. Very obviously Australia is just keeping out its greatest competitor in the beef market.

[Walker88]

39 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

I’ll wager you fell for the Russian collusion hoax and thought Joe Biden was sharpe as a tack. 

Please do. I'll take the other side of that bet.

 

Riddle me this: What possible reason did Campaign Manager Paul Manafort have to go to Spain to meet GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik, where he gave him internal polling data from the campaign. Kilimnik then passed the data to the GRU's Internet Research Agency, who then microtargeted voters in key swing States like MI, WI and PA, with fake stories about Hillary and others?

 

The Republican-led SSCI issued the report where they noted this Kilimnik contact.

 

Russia cooperation was 100% real.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You known damn well this is total nonsense. The UK government found BSE was caused by genetic mutation, not any kind of cattle feed.

 

 

You got some evidence to support that claim?

[still kicking]

1 hour ago, rough diamond said:

I suggest you stop the semantics and get back to the OP.

Trump IS an idiot. End of story.

Look what he has just done to cause China who has now responded with 84% revenge tariffs!

Good by US exports and goodbye US imports.

Enjoy your isolationism.

The price of iPhones just went up because they are made in Vietnam, and most parts are from different countries.

[SunnyinBangrak]

15 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Please do. I'll take the other side of that bet.

 

Riddle me this: What possible reason did Campaign Manager Paul Manafort have to go to Spain to meet GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik, where he gave him internal polling data from the campaign. Kilimnik then passed the data to the GRU's Internet Research Agency, who then microtargeted voters in key swing States like MI, WI and PA, with fake stories about Hillary and others?

 

The Republican-led SSCI issued the report where they noted this Kilimnik contact.

 

Russia cooperation was 100% real.

 

 

Dude. It was a hoax. You know it. I know it. Muller knows it. The world knows it. Court testimony from Robby Mook confirms Hillary was the impetus to cook up the hoax. It is beyond comprehension you still pretend its real with this Manafort did this and that bs. Just grow up. Trump did not collude with Putin to game an election. I cringe remembering Schiff lying, Maddow sending teams to Moscow to ferret through garbage cans. It was mass hysteria.

[rough diamond]

2 minutes ago, still kicking said:

The price of iPhones just went up because they are made in Vietnam, and most parts are from different countries.

They will still be the previous price in India where 10million are made and in China where most of the rest are,  Goodbye iPhone in the USA where tomorrow, or a few days later, they will be more than double the price!  55555!

I say tomorrow/the next few days because the US shops are running out of current stock! 

🤣

What a so called business man the idiot Trump is!!

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13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Dude. It was a hoax. You know it. I know it. Muller knows it. The world knows it. Court testimony from Robby Mook confirms Hillary was the impetus to cook up the hoax. It is beyond comprehension you still pretend its real with this Manafort did this and that bs. Just grow up. Trump did not collude with Putin to game an election. I cringe remembering Schiff lying, Maddow sending teams to Moscow to ferret through garbage cans. It was mass hysteria.

It's clear that it's the Steele report you're referring to.

Former intel official: Trump-Russia dossier 'played no role' in our analysis of Russian meddling
    Conservative commentators and allies of President Donald Trump have sought to cast the Russia investigations as a partisan witch hunt in light of revelations that the Trump-Russia dossier was funded by a lawyer for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.
    But the former general counsel for the Director of National Intelligence says the dossier "played absolutely no role" in the intelligence community's assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
    "The salacious allegations in the 'dossier' are a mere sideshow that should not distract from a comprehensive investigation" of Russian interference, the lawyer, Robert Litt, said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-litt-says-dossier-played-no-role-in-intel-community-russia-assessment-2017-10

 

The Inspector General of the Justice dept concluded that the investigation of Trump was not predicated on the Steele Dossier.

 

 

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

You known damn well this is total nonsense. The UK government found BSE was caused by genetic mutation, not any kind of cattle feed.

Please go and educate yourself about BSE, but then again your post already shows that you don't know what you are talking about....ignorance is bliss, they say!!!

• Prions:

  BSE is caused by a prion, a misfolded protein that can cause other proteins to misfold, leading to a build-up of these abnormal proteins in the brain and spinal cord. 

   
• Contaminated Feed:

  Cattle become infected by eating feed contaminated with prion-infected material, such as meat and bone meal from other infected animals. 

   
• Classical BSE:

  Classical BSE is caused by feeding cattle protein products from other cattle, which may carry BSE prions. 

[jimmybcool]

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14587659/China-revenge-tariffs-US-goods-Trump.html  

 

A lot of buyer's regret in MAGA world now and when rednecks see prices in Walmart surging or not available the real pain party begins. Either Trump goes or America falls and along with it a lot of financially indebted western world.

 

 

If it tanks sales of Chinese products  wonder how the unemployed Chinese workers will feel.  The thing is it works both ways. 

[Cameroni]

14 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Please go and educate yourself about BSE, but then again your post already shows that you don't know what you are talking about....ignorance is bliss, they say!!!

• Prions:

  BSE is caused by a prion, a misfolded protein that can cause other proteins to misfold, leading to a build-up of these abnormal proteins in the brain and spinal cord. 

   
• Contaminated Feed:

  Cattle become infected by eating feed contaminated with prion-infected material, such as meat and bone meal from other infected animals. 

   
• Classical BSE:

  Classical BSE is caused by feeding cattle protein products from other cattle, which may carry BSE prions. 

 

You don't know what you're talking about, sadly, Xylophone:

 

Mad cow disease may have a genetic cause, according to Juergen A. Richt, Regents Distinguished Professor of Diagnostic Medicine and Pathobiology at Kansas State University's College of Veterinary Medicine.

Richt said that, until several years ago, it was thought that bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) was a foodborne disease. But recent findings by his research team suggest that mad cow disease is also caused by a genetic mutation within a gene called Prion Protein Gene.

 

https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/do/10.5555/collection-news-18649/full/

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You don't know what you're talking about, sadly, Xylophone:

 

Mad cow disease may have a genetic cause, according to Juergen A. Richt, Regents Distinguished Professor of Diagnostic Medicine and Pathobiology at Kansas State University's College of Veterinary Medicine.

Richt said that, until several years ago, it was thought that bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) was a foodborne disease. But recent findings by his research team suggest that mad cow disease is also caused by a genetic mutation within a gene called Prion Protein Gene.

 

https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/do/10.5555/collection-news-18649/full/

But recent findings by his research team suggest that mad cow disease is also caused by a genetic mutation within a gene called Prion Protein Gene.

The bold face and italics are mine.

And from the study:

The research shows, for the first time, that a 10-year-old cow from Alabama with an atypical form of bovine spongiform encephalopathy had the same type of prion protein gene mutation as found in human patients with the genetic form of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, also called genetic CJD for short. Besides having a genetic origin, other human forms of prion diseases can be sporadic, as in sporadic CJD, as well as foodborne. That is, they are contracted when people eat products contaminated with mad cow disease.

https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/do/10.5555/collection-news-18649/full/

 

So not a case of "instead". Rather, "in addition". And relatively uncommon as well.

[Cameroni]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

But recent findings by his research team suggest that mad cow disease is also caused by a genetic mutation within a gene called Prion Protein Gene.

The bold face and italics are mine.

And from the study:

The research shows, for the first time, that a 10-year-old cow from Alabama with an atypical form of bovine spongiform encephalopathy had the same type of prion protein gene mutation as found in human patients with the genetic form of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, also called genetic CJD for short. Besides having a genetic origin, other human forms of prion diseases can be sporadic, as in sporadic CJD, as well as foodborne. That is, they are contracted when people eat products contaminated with mad cow disease.

https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/do/10.5555/collection-news-18649/full/

 

So not a case of "instead". Rather, "in addition". And relatively uncommon as well.

 

All forms of BSE are exceedingly rare. Thanks for proving my point. So Australia is curtailing ALL imports of US beef on the basis of a flimsy pretence, that BSE is a concern, when in fact their own Australian cows could just as well develop BSE due to a genetic mutation.

 

That is what is called sly, underhand protectionism. Very obviously Australia is protecting her own cattle industry from its most powerful rival, the USA. Plain as day.

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

All forms of BSE are exceedingly rare. Thanks for proving my point. So Australia is curtailing ALL imports of US beef on the basis of a flimsy pretence, that BSE is a concern, when in fact their own Australian cows could just as well develop BSE due to a genetic mutation.

 

That is what is called sly, underhand protectionism. Very obviously Australia is protecting her own cattle industry from its most powerful rival, the USA. Plain as day.

Don't lie. Here is what you claimed: 

"You known damn well this is total nonsense. The UK government found BSE was caused by genetic mutation, not any kind of cattle feed."

 

 

 

[Cameroni]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Don't lie. Here is what you claimed: 

"You known damn well this is total nonsense. The UK government found BSE was caused by genetic mutation, not any kind of cattle feed."

 

 

 

 

More underhand tactics, lying tactics by yourself, you can read above the point I was making that Australia was protecting its domestic cattle industry from the powerful competition of the US.

 

Indeed the British government DID find that the BSE outbreak was due to a genetic mutation.

 

 

[TedG]

9 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Please do. I'll take the other side of that bet.

 

Riddle me this: What possible reason did Campaign Manager Paul Manafort have to go to Spain to meet GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik, where he gave him internal polling data from the campaign. Kilimnik then passed the data to the GRU's Internet Research Agency, who then microtargeted voters in key swing States like MI, WI and PA, with fake stories about Hillary and others?

 

The Republican-led SSCI issued the report where they noted this Kilimnik contact.

 

Russia cooperation was 100% real.

 

 

 

Mueller finds no collusion with Russia, leaves obstruction question open

 

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/

 

Senate Intelligence Committee finds no collusion between Russia, Trump campaign

 

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-russia-campaigns-senate-elections-9d80e603ac231ece201f6cef3ade1740

 

Stop Saying Donald Trump Colluded With Russia

 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/stop-saying-donald-trump-colluded-russia

 

 

 

 

 

[motdaeng]

 

[TedG]

9 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Please do. I'll take the other side of that bet.

 

Riddle me this: What possible reason did Campaign Manager Paul Manafort have to go to Spain to meet GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik, where he gave him internal polling data from the campaign. Kilimnik then passed the data to the GRU's Internet Research Agency, who then microtargeted voters in key swing States like MI, WI and PA, with fake stories about Hillary and others?

 

 

 

 

Tell me more about these fake stories. 

[wozzlegummich]

The only idiots are the ones who believe Trump actually has a plan.

This is just slash & burn, and see what happens. His advisors are complete morons including one that has a fictional mentor named as an anagram of his own name - only in America.

How could America could let this happen?

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, motdaeng said:

 

 

The wolf-man !!!

 

[gamb00ler]

56 minutes ago, wozzlegummich said:

The only idiots are the ones who believe Trump actually has a plan.

This is just slash & burn, and see what happens. His advisors are complete morons including one that has a fictional mentor named as an anagram of his own name - only in America.

How could America could let this happen?

The Supreme Court is the main perp.  Look at the Citizens United decision.

[candide]

10 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Dude. It was a hoax. You know it. I know it. Muller knows it. The world knows it. Court testimony from Robby Mook confirms Hillary was the impetus to cook up the hoax. It is beyond comprehension you still pretend its real with this Manafort did this and that bs. Just grow up. Trump did not collude with Putin to game an election. I cringe remembering Schiff lying, Maddow sending teams to Moscow to ferret through garbage cans. It was mass hysteria.

You are making stuff up again... as usual! 🤣

 

Mook testimony was about Alfa Bank. Sussman 's trial confirmed that the investigation was not caused by the Alfa Bank story, as the FBI did not believe Sussman. And most of all, the investigation started before he informed the FBI about the Alfa Bank allegations..

[candide]

1 hour ago, TedG said:

 

Mueller finds no collusion with Russia, leaves obstruction question open

 

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/

 

Senate Intelligence Committee finds no collusion between Russia, Trump campaign

 

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-russia-campaigns-senate-elections-9d80e603ac231ece201f6cef3ade1740

 

Stop Saying Donald Trump Colluded With Russia

 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/stop-saying-donald-trump-colluded-russia

 

 

 

 

 

Manafort said he's done it on his own initiative. That's possible...or not.

[LosLobo]

3 hours ago, TedG said:

Mueller finds no collusion with Russia, leaves obstruction question open

 

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/

 

Senate Intelligence Committee finds no collusion between Russia, Trump campaign

 

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-russia-campaigns-senate-elections-9d80e603ac231ece201f6cef3ade1740

 

Stop Saying Donald Trump Colluded With Russia

 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/stop-saying-donald-trump-colluded-russia

 

"No collusion" is a myth. Mueller never evaluated "collusion"—it's not a legal term. He investigated criminal conspiracy and found insufficient evidence to charge, not proof of innocence.
 

Mueller Under oath:
"We did not address 'collusion'... The President was not exculpated."

What he did find:

• A meeting to get dirt "as part of Russia’s support for Trump"

• Internal polling shared with a Russian intel asset

• Repeated lies and cover-ups

• Over ten acts of possible obstruction of justice

Mueller again:
"If we had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."

He didn’t—because he couldn’t. So no, Trump wasn’t "cleared." He just skated on technicalities and DOJ policy. Time to retire the fairy tale.

PS: Just like the E. Jean Carroll 'rape' case, both hinge on legal technicalities that differ from plain-language truth, and in both cases Trump claims “total exoneration” where none exists.

https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
https://www.politico.eu/article/mueller-refutes-trumps-no-collusion-no-obstruction-line/

[Lacessit]

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

You known damn well this is total nonsense. The UK government found BSE was caused by genetic mutation, not any kind of cattle feed.

 

So basically Australia is keeping out US beef as a pretext, when its own cows could easily suffer the genetic misfortune of BSE at some point.

 

It is all a pack of lies. Very obviously Australia is just keeping out its greatest competitor in the beef market.

Grass-fed Gippsland eye fillet is a completely different taste sensation to the fat-laden  feedlot rubbish America produces. You are confusing quantity with quality.

 

Don't go to Australia. With your attitude to our biosecurity laws, we'd probably sling you in jail.

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Grass-fed Gippsland eye fillet is a completely different taste sensation to the fat-laden  feedlot rubbish America produces. You are confusing quantity with quality.

 

Don't go to Australia. With your attitude to our biosecurity laws, we'd probably sling you in jail.

 

There is marked difference in taste between American and Australian beef, but it is American beef that is considered superior in taste. Australian beef is generally viewed as too lean with a poorer flavour profile, whilst American beef is fattier and therefore has more depth of flavour.

 

"

"Who Wins the Beef Battle?

 

It’s difficult to compare two different types of meat with unique characteristics and depends on what standpoint your comparison comes from, if you’re looking for pure nutrition and quality then it would have to be Australia. But if you want some luxurious flavour with delicate fatty cuts then American beef is a must-have."

 

https://t2conline.com/aussie-beef-vs-american-beef-which-is-better/

 

Why would I ever go to Australia? It's on th axxrse of the world, has no culture and nothing to offer? If I got that direction I'd obviously go to Bali. Like most Australians.

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

"No collusion" is a myth. Mueller never evaluated "collusion"—it's not a legal term. He investigated criminal conspiracy and found insufficient evidence to charge, not proof of innocence.
 

Mueller Under oath:
"We did not address 'collusion'... The President was not exculpated."

What he did find:

• A meeting to get dirt "as part of Russia’s support for Trump"

• Internal polling shared with a Russian intel asset

• Repeated lies and cover-ups

• Over ten acts of possible obstruction of justice

Mueller again:
"If we had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."

He didn’t—because he couldn’t. So no, Trump wasn’t "cleared." He just skated on technicalities and DOJ policy. Time to retire the fairy tale.

PS: Just like the E. Jean Carroll 'rape' case, both hinge on legal technicalities that differ from plain-language truth, and in both cases Trump claims “total exoneration” where none exists.

https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
https://www.politico.eu/article/mueller-refutes-trumps-no-collusion-no-obstruction-line/

You sad fools STILL rehashing and dissecting the Mueller Report? That was done 6 years ago.  

 

As for the "problem" with China tariffs.  China sold the US more than 3 times what the US sold China. So who is at risk?  China will bend the knee, as myriad countries are lining up to do.