On 4/14/2025 at 5:36 AM, thairookie said:

The foreigner friend does not have a local address.  He is coming straight from the airport.

 

It's my responsibility as house owner to submit TM30 for him as well, but for a few days ?  I suspect I would be in breach of the Hotel Act.

 

Of course, whether my tenant collects a fee from the foreigner friend is another issue.

What address would he put on his immigration form at the airport?

 

Would this become more difficult when the digital TM6 starts, TDAC ?

On 4/14/2025 at 11:11 AM, thairookie said:

As landlord, I'm responsible for the TM30 submission if I rent it out to the tenant for 30 days or more.

 

What if the tenant decides to accommodate a foreigner friend for a few nights ?  Is that an infringement of any provisions of the Hotel Act ?

 

I think you think too much...

On 4/14/2025 at 11:11 AM, thairookie said:

What if the tenant decides to accommodate a foreigner friend for a few nights ?  Is that an infringement of any provisions of the Hotel Act ?

What does the Hotel Act say about it?

On 4/14/2025 at 6:11 AM, thairookie said:

As landlord, I'm responsible for the TM30 submission if I rent it out to the tenant for 30 days or more.

 

What if the tenant decides to accommodate a foreigner friend for a few nights ?  Is that an infringement of any provisions of the Hotel Act ?

In principle any foreigner staying should be registered with a TM30. If it's a private guest – not a paying customer – it should not be a problem doing a TM30-report.

On 4/14/2025 at 11:11 AM, thairookie said:

As landlord, I'm responsible for the TM30 submission if I rent it out to the tenant for 30 days or more.

 

What if the tenant decides to accommodate a foreigner friend for a few nights ?  Is that an infringement of any provisions of the Hotel Act ?

 

We live North of Chiang Mai and have a motel and apartments which my Thai wife manages.

Most of our guests and tenants are Thai but we occasionally do have foreigners as occurred recently.

I was overseas and we had a young French guy rent for two months as he has a Thai girlfriend.

My wife was a day late lodging the TM30 form as she had to take our sick daughter to hospital in Chiang Mai where she was kept in overnight

The recently appointed officious Immigration person fined her 2000 baht for being a day late.

Wasn’t interested in the reason for the delay.

Sometimes doesn’t pay to do the right thing.

12 hours ago, StevieAus said:

...The recently appointed officious Immigration person fined her 2000 baht for being a day late...

 

Did your wife get a receipt for the 2000 Baht?

On 4/14/2025 at 11:11 AM, thairookie said:

As landlord, I'm responsible for the TM30 submission if I rent it out to the tenant for 30 days or more.

 

What if the tenant decides to accommodate a foreigner friend for a few nights ?  Is that an infringement of any provisions of the Hotel Act ?

 

Unless the tenant agreement states otherwise, who the tenant invites into the house is nothing to do with the landlord.  

On 4/17/2025 at 5:02 AM, Maestro said:

 

Did your wife get a receipt for the 2000 Baht?

Certainly did.

On 4/20/2025 at 4:22 PM, Surasak said:

Unless the tenant agreement states otherwise, who the tenant invites into the house is nothing to do with the landlord.  

Except if the visitor is a non Thai the landlord is responsible for lodging the TM 30 is he not ?

The person in physical control of the place ( the condo ) where the foreigner stays IS responsible for a TM-30 within 24 hours.  Read the Immigration Act Sections 4 & 38

 

Let's look at my LOCAL IO POLICY:

So I leave the country next month on holiday, I return and file the new """ELECTRONIC TM-6""" ( address where I will stay ) 3 days before entry, I return to my SAME ADDRESS of 4+ years - LOCAL POLICY says within 24 hours I have to file a new TM-30.

=== So we are talking 5 minutes out of my super busy retirement life ===

 

As I said many times, it ALL depends on LOCAL POLICY and LOCAL ENFORCEMENT

3 hours ago, StevieAus said:

Except if the visitor is a non Thai the landlord is responsible for lodging the TM 30 is he not ?

How does the landlord know. 

The OP mentioned a friend staying "few nights" 

 

7 hours ago, StevieAus said:

Certainly did.

 

Thank you. That's interesting.

 

An immigration fine of 2,000 Bath, with receipt, for the late submission of the TM.30 notification is irregular. If your wife still has the receipt, it would interest me to know exactly what reason for the fine is shown, in Thai, on the receipt.

"""Except if the visitor is a non Thai the landlord is responsible for lodging the TM 30 is he not?"""

 

In this case the person renting or in POSSESSION of the condo is 1) House Master, 2) Possessor, 3) Tenant IS responsible for the TM-30

 

The landlord is NOT responsible for the tenants visitors TM-30

11 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

Thank you. That's interesting.

 

An immigration fine of 2,000 Bath, with receipt, for the late submission of the TM.30 notification is irregular. If your wife still has the receipt, it would interest me to know exactly what reason for the fine is shown, in Thai, on the receipt.

Sorry the fine was 1600 not 2000 which according to what I can find out is the fine for not lodging the form in time.

She is not interested in pursuing the issue despite the extenuating circumstances so that is where it lies.