Horrible news of an Air India air crash in India - a Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

 

Shocking.  Crashed in a residential area as well.  Mostly Indians, Brits, Portuguese and Canadian on board (according to Air India).

Air India is one thing  and I would never fly them but my concern is about Boeing. After the 737 Max my faith in in this company is faltering.   Boeing had an issue with 787 manufacturing.  The speciic issue was about how fasteners were installed.  One former Boeing employee was fired after going public about this issue.  I hope the aircraft was not the problem but I said the same thing after the Max crashes.  On this flight there were 242 on board and all are probably deceased.  This airplane crashed into a residential area near the airport and the death toll will probably be higher.  Really sad and RIP. 

 

 

Airplane with over 100 on board crashes in India’s Ahmedabad city according to reports | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

Brief footage I've seen looks like it lost all lift and dropped out of the air just after takeoff.

I never thought about it, but I guess I've flown on a slightly different version of the plane, the 787-9, between San Francisco and Tokyo.  

 

Very sad.  All those people.  

 

1 minute ago, KhunBENQ said:

What heppened to the engine noise at the end?  Also, were these Rolls Royce or GE engines?   

Crashed into a residential area. That will be terrific loss.

Passengers on board:

“Of these, 169 are Indian nationals, 53 are British nationals, 1 Canadian national and 7 Portuguese nationals,” Air India said."

Are the flaps deployed? 

5 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

What heppened to the engine noise at the end?  Also, were these Rolls Royce or GE engines?   

GE engines - GEnx-1B64

3 minutes ago, Stocky said:

GE engines - GEnx-1B64

 American companies for both the aircraft and engines.  I read in the past some Rolls Royce engines for the 787 had some problems but not about GE engines. 

Terrible ..... and it looks and sounds like both engines shut down?  Undercarriage was still down too.

 

9 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Are the flaps deployed? 

From the vidoe the flaps look like they were zero or possibly 5 degrees? 

1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said:

From the vidoe the flaps look like they were zero or possibly 5 degrees? 

 

It's hard to tell from the video.  The gear is still down.   Isn't the gear raised after take off? 

That's  it, not flying another "Dreamliner" or any other Boeing aircraft if I can avoid it. Too many whistleblowers have painted a damning picture of the lack of safety focus in the company.

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

It's hard to tell from the video.  The gear is still down.   Isn't the gear raised after take off? 

'Positive rate of climb' then the gear is raised.

1 minute ago, norfolkandchance said:

'Positive rate of climb' then the gear is raised.

Don't they also retract the gear in case of engine failure to increase glide distance ..... or is that pointless when so low?

Maintenance failure? Sabotage? Terror act?

Better not think of technical failure.

4 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Maintenance failure? Sabotage? Terror act?

Better not think of technical failure.

Birds,  debris at the runaway, I guess we will know before than later

20 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

It's hard to tell from the video.  The gear is still down.   Isn't the gear raised after take off? 

About 2000 feet for landing gear retraction for 787. From what I'm seeing it only got up to 600ft.

Troll post about Trump removed.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Birds,  debris at the runaway, I guess we will know before than later

It would have to be a double engine bird strike and from the above image no engine blowback can be seen.

Off topic posts and replies about 9/11 removed, as it is deflecting the topic.
 

This topic is “First ever Dreamliner crash in India (bound for London Gatwick)” not to post your conspiracy theories!

Boeing was destroyed by their managers and is now a nofly. The dreamliner had a series of electrical fires.

Use Finnair busines (Airbus) from and to TH quite safer than Boeing.

2018-2019 2x737 Max plane.  346 killed.
Dec 2024. 737-800. 181 killed.
Nov 2024. 737 cargo caught fire.
Nov 2024. 737-400 F destroyed by fire.
May 2024: Crash in Dakar.
May 2024: Boeing Fedex crash in Istanbul.
March 2024: 737 fire in engine. Texas.
March 2024. 787. Nodesdiving, nearly crash.
Jan 2025. 737 Max door blow out.
Now 1x787-8. About 242 killed.

 

51 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Are the flaps deployed? 

That was my immediate first thought. That aircraft has stalled and an incorrect flap setting can cause that to happen.

This is now in the News Section, continue discussion there;

 

Thanks to the OP.