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Will the Epstein saga tear MAGA apart?

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3 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Something of a sweeping generalisation.........

 

Trump is a trashy, degenerate person. Tell me one dignified act he has ever made. I'm sure there must be some. But I've never seen one. Yes, he and the people around him are human dross.

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    Thank you. I consider it quite an honor to defend decency and integrity, not that there ever was much of that with the office of the US presidency, but many of us feel that he's lowered that hurdle to

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    So spider, you seem to have officially taken over as the most vocal anti-Trump voice on AN.   Just saying. Some of your pals have slowed down a bit.    So they've passed on the bat

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    It appears to be quite upsetting to you to see your master falter like this? You may have over estimated his intelligence. 

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Interesting.....Trump to Epstein.....

 

"Enigmas never age"....coded language for their victims?.....

 

Gamine.....an anagram of enigma......is a body type......... petite, delicate, small stature, large eyes, waif-like......

This is why i love this Site. Makes my day seeing the Yanks posting on this its the best comedy club on the web. Trump throwing his Toys out of his pram everytime someone has a go at him. He should change his First name from Donald to Sue lol. Conspiracy's by the bucket load, Ex Presidents brought up constantly, Amazing reading. Keep it up guys the UK love's you realy.

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

while at the same time more news/information coming out derailing the length to which maga cronies have to create diversion trying to show the all files, the cover up after cover up but we all know how familiar Trump is with cover ups and diversions/false claims

 

Durbin: FBI agents were told to ‘flag’ Epstein records that mentioned Trump

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/durbin-fbi-agents-were-told-185715612.html

 

 

Quite interesting read. In particular those questions which will likely remain without replies.

 

Quote from the article:

 

Durbin wants to know, if the client list does not exist, what was Bondi referring to when she alluded to documents “sitting” on her desk.

 

He also wants to know when the whistleblower disclosed to Bondi that there were thousands of pages of additional records in the possession of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York’s office and whether that information was shared with Congress or the Justice Department’s inspector general’s office.

 

Furthermore, Durbin asked the senior officials to explain why they placed almost 1,000 FBI personnel on 24-hour shifts to review Epstein related documents in March, and who made the decision to assign hundreds of people from the FBI’s New York field office to the task.

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4 hours ago, JackGats said:

The hysteria about Epstein is overly justified. Clearly, the Epstein women were victims of heinous child sexual abuse as teenagers when they were flown to private islands for free to chill in luxury and paid thousands of dollars to have sex with literal princes and celebrities, smiling in all photos.

 

They weren’t living the dream of every amateur and professional loose woman on the planet, they were victims of human trafficking rape, and their childhood innocence was stolen. Whereas their innocence would have been heavenly, safe, and morally intact if these women instead had stayed behind to give awkward handjobs to poor high school boys with acne in exchange for some drugs or cigarettes.

Sounds like you're making light of an estimated 1,000 women who were abused on one level or another, by Epstein and his cronies. 

 

A lot of Trump supporters are not taking this seriously, and that is seriously alarming. 

No one is asking the question: why would someone like Epstein/Maxwell have needed "a list". They were not running a cheap escort service where clients are known by code names. They may have had celebrities in their smartphone contacts, mixed with their families, lawyers, brokers school acquaintances, but probably not even that, rather they had secretaries taking care of any communications on a case-by-case basis. They knew how to contact those celebrities and influencial people if needed, and the latter knew how to contact them and were welcome to visit any time announced or unannounced. Yet most people want them to have run "a list":

 

1) Bill Clinton, President of the US (+ address and phone number)

2) Donald Trump, future President of the US,  (+ address and phone number)

3) Andrew of York, Prince,  (+ address and phone number)

4) etc.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Interesting.....Trump to Epstein.....

 

"Enigmas never age"....coded language for their victims?.....

 

Gamine.....an anagram of enigma......is a body type......... petite, delicate, small stature, large eyes, waif-like......

gamine is a slang in France and relates to very young girls and gamin for very young boys... not surprised Trump/Epstein used that word

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10 minutes ago, JackGats said:

No one is asking the question: why would someone like Epstein/Maxwell have needed "a list". They were not running a cheap escort service where clients are known by code names. They may have had celebrities in their smartphone contacts, mixed with their families, lawyers, brokers school acquaintances, but probably not even that, rather they had secretaries taking care of any communications on a case-by-case basis. They knew how to contact those celebrities and influencial people if needed, and the latter knew how to contact them and were welcome to visit any time announced or unannounced. Yet most people want them to have run "a lis"t:

 

1) Bill Clinton, President of the US (+ address and phone number)

2) Donald Trump, future President of the US,  (+ address and phone number)

3) Andrew of York, Prince,  (+ address and phone number)

4) etc.

 

 

Well it depends upon how much of a conspiracy you think the whole Epstein mechanism was, who set him up, how did he earn his money, who lent him support, so many other questions that could be asked and they would all lead to the same conclusion. There would be ample reason for him to keep a list. It is called Kompromat. 

 

The term "kompromat" is a portmanteau of the Russian words "komprometiruyushchy material," meaning "compromising material"

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it also appears the WH know for quite sometime there was a letter from WSJ, so not a surprise for them, maybe they were trying to cover up as they usual do and somebody beat them to it by making it public information, now let's just wait to see what files he's ""allowing"" to be published, my guess??? maybe couple hundred pages out 1,000's , the ones not showing his name will be top of the list, the rest not published as he will call them to be a danger for the USA security 

 

White House knew about the Trump letter story for days - and were on a ‘f***ing warpath’ to stop it

https://au.news.yahoo.com/white-house-knew-trump-letter-204151921.html

 

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It appears that the liar in chief is at his game again, lying and denying seems to be what he does best. 

 

“I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women,” he told the Journal. “It’s not my language. It’s not my words.”

 

“I don’t draw pictures,” he later wrote on Truth Social. However, a charity director told CNN that in 2004 Trump sent her two signed drawings for an Ohio charity auction. And news reports suggest other drawings of his have sold for thousands of dollars.

 

Dr. Lowery Lockard, who ran the auction for Hattie Larlham – a nonprofit foundation – said she was “shocked and impressed” at the artful nature of then-real estate mogul and reality show host Donald Trump’s doodles.

 

“It was somebody we reached out to,” said Lockard. “It just wasn’t really something that I would have expected.”

In 2004, Lockard collected around 150 drawings from celebrities for the auction, sending them a “doodle kit” in which they could draw anything they like on it. Appropriate for his big-city mogul image, Trump chose the New York City skyline for his doodles.

 

According to Lockard, the celebrities sent the doodles back with a signed waiver, authenticating them and allowing them to be sold at auction. “They sign a release that they’re aware that we’re going to sell them,” said Lockard who said that she still has Trump’s authentication.

 

“‘Wrote a picture’ is a little bit different than drawing a doodle, I guess. I’m not exactly sure what that terminology means. But I mean, we do have an authentic signature. It was authenticated when we received it.”

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/politics/trump-drawing-charity-auction

 

 

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I hope this helps take him down, but his association with Epstein is not the most important issue for me. That is the way he's running the country. I do hope his MAGA supporters take a good look at him and his associates, and vote for Democrats in the mid-term elections because of his values and actions, but his proven sexual deviancy and obvious pedophilia should also be taken into consideration. 

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1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I hope this helps take him down, but his association with Epstein is not the most important issue for me. That is the way he's running the country. I do hope his MAGA supporters take a good look at him and his associates, and vote for Democrats in the mid-term elections because of his values and actions, but his proven sexual deviancy and obvious pedophilia should also be taken into consideration. 

Agreed. Not Seventeen by Mandalay would be an appropriate theme song describing his sordid past. 

 

He's no longer as much of a danger to the young girls, as he's likely highly impotent, but he continues to be a danger for the world. 

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On 7/15/2025 at 10:14 AM, annotator said:

 

A brilliant professional video ....Most amusing

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On 7/14/2025 at 7:03 PM, spidermike007 said:

Trump was on videotape years back with Jeffrey Epstein, professing their love for each other, the closeness of their friendship, and with Trump saying how terrific a guy he was, and how they both had an attraction toward very young gals. Just how young, Don? 

 

We also have evidence of Trump having flown on the Orgy Island jet at least seven times, and having visited the mansion so many times nobody can count the number of visits. What was he doing there? 

 

Now Trump is in total denial mode over Pam Bondi's muckup, and the result is major fallout. A lot of Trump supporters who somehow expected transparency and integrity out of this guy are quite furious. This is becoming increasingly more amusing to witness. 

 

President Donald Trump’s Jeffrey Epstein problem isn’t going away. Influential voices on the far right, including some of the president’s biggest MAGA allies, are incensed at his administration for refusing to release more information about the 2019 death of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein in prison.

 

Some are warning it could backfire on the Republican Party in next year’s midterm elections and even in the 2028 presidential race. "It’s not just about a pedophile ring and all that, it’s about who governs us, right?” right-wing pundit and former Trump aide Steve Bannon said Friday. “For this to go away, you’re gonna lose 10% of the MAGA movement. If we lose 10% of the MAGA movement right now, we’re going to lose 40 seats in 2026, and we’re going to lose the presidency. They’ve disheartened the hardest-core populists,” he added.

 

A highly delusional Trump said in response - "We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and 'selfish people' are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein," Trump wrote in a lengthy post on his Truth social media platform on Saturday.

 

"Next the DOJ will say 'Actually, Jeffrey Epstein never even existed,'" furious pro-Trump conspiracy theorist Alex Jones tweeted after last week's move. "This is over the top sickening."

 

FBI deputy director Dan Bongino and Bondi reportedly clashed at the White House this week over the issue, with Bongino, a former influential right-wing podcast host, threatening to resign.

On Saturday, Trump struck an exasperated tone in his admonishment of his supporters.

 

"For years, it's Epstein, over and over again," he said. "Let's...not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about."

 

Ha! 

 

 

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Trump States:

"For years, it's Epstein, over and over again," he said. "Let's...not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about."

 

But the Ginger man cares ....... and ponders ...... and plans ..... and worries ....... and poos his diaper ..... and ...............

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8 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

Trump States:

"For years, it's Epstein, over and over again," he said. "Let's...not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about."

 

But the Ginger man cares ....... and ponders ...... and plans ..... and worries ....... and poos his diaper ..... and ...............

Oh you better believe he cares at this point in time, this is one of the biggest conundrums of his political career, normally his followers are very obedient and very compliant, and that does not seem to be the case this time around..

 

You don't spend years talking about conspiracy theories only to deny that they don't exist, you nimwit! 

 

Don, you got caught out for being dumb, you got caught out for who you are, you got caught in one of your millions of lies, and you got caught with your pants down, and that is not a pretty sight. 

 

 

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The "best case" scenario is that Trump comes out of this looking like Ohio Rep Jim Jordan: he knew what was going on but did absolutely nothing about it.

 

Rep Jordan was a coach on a wrestling team where the team doctor has been accused of violating young boys. Former wrestlers claim Jordan knew everything. Jordan has been quoted as saying "That's Strauss", when confronted with the actions of Dr Strauss.

 

Trump obviously and admittedly knew Epstein well, as pics and videos prove, and Epstein's long membership at Mar-a-Lago indicate. Trump has always been enamored of billionaires, and Epstein---somehow---became one. It seems very unlikely that a "stable genius" would not know what his friend and member was up to. During the time Trump was in the flight logs of Epstein's jet, the jet was already known as "The Lolita Express". Though Trump claims to have never read a book (quite believable), he certainly had to be aware of the meaning behind "Lolita".

 

The worst case scenario is....well, LOTS and LOTS of redactions or "missing documents" in whatever is shuffled out to the media.

5 hours ago, Wingate said:

The "best case" scenario is that Trump comes out of this looking like Ohio Rep Jim Jordan: he knew what was going on but did absolutely nothing about it.

 

Rep Jordan was a coach on a wrestling team where the team doctor has been accused of violating young boys. Former wrestlers claim Jordan knew everything. Jordan has been quoted as saying "That's Strauss", when confronted with the actions of Dr Strauss.

 

Trump obviously and admittedly knew Epstein well, as pics and videos prove, and Epstein's long membership at Mar-a-Lago indicate. Trump has always been enamored of billionaires, and Epstein---somehow---became one. It seems very unlikely that a "stable genius" would not know what his friend and member was up to. During the time Trump was in the flight logs of Epstein's jet, the jet was already known as "The Lolita Express". Though Trump claims to have never read a book (quite believable), he certainly had to be aware of the meaning behind "Lolita".

 

The worst case scenario is....well, LOTS and LOTS of redactions or "missing documents" in whatever is shuffled out to the media.

 

 

He is also quoted as saying.............. "if Strauss did that to me, I'd snap his neck".........

 

 

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6 hours ago, Wingate said:

The "best case" scenario is that Trump comes out of this looking like Ohio Rep Jim Jordan: he knew what was going on but did absolutely nothing about it.

 

Rep Jordan was a coach on a wrestling team where the team doctor has been accused of violating young boys. Former wrestlers claim Jordan knew everything. Jordan has been quoted as saying "That's Strauss", when confronted with the actions of Dr Strauss.

 

Trump obviously and admittedly knew Epstein well, as pics and videos prove, and Epstein's long membership at Mar-a-Lago indicate. Trump has always been enamored of billionaires, and Epstein---somehow---became one. It seems very unlikely that a "stable genius" would not know what his friend and member was up to. During the time Trump was in the flight logs of Epstein's jet, the jet was already known as "The Lolita Express". Though Trump claims to have never read a book (quite believable), he certainly had to be aware of the meaning behind "Lolita".

 

The worst case scenario is....well, LOTS and LOTS of redactions or "missing documents" in whatever is shuffled out to the media.

Trump is no doubt as guilty as the day is long. He was surrounded by girls between 13 and 25 years old during these beauty pageants and with his association with John Casablanca and that modeling agency, and we know that Trump is morally bankrupt and morally depraved, so why wouldn't he have tried to get with these girls? 

 

 

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why, maybe a few democrat pedophiles will go down for it. Trump is an American hero and the furthest thing from a bent, twisted democrat pedophile. And he's a damn <deleted> good POTUS.

 

 

 

The democrats will implode on this issue like they always do.They are not too switched on, and well, actually they are retarded and seemingly proud to be so. LOL

 

 

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A veteran tells Trump 'to go straight to hell'

D. Earl Stephens.

 

Sometimes, all this is just too damn much to take. Sometimes, just the thought of the grotesque Donald Trump being in the vicinity of the United States of America much less our White House makes me shake with rage ...

 

So when I read on Saturday morning that the revolting, America-attacking wretch had given the commencement address to our cadets at West Point, my heart began beating with a runaway rage.

 

I saw red. I pulled myself away from my desk and tried to compose myself. Then I returned and started typing, because when I saw this vile coward used this grotesque visit to honor himself, I decided a few things needed saying ...

 

This hideous man … his childish, red, made-in-China hat pulled tight over the dead ferret he tapes to his head each day, spent this morning lying to these cadets, and the world, about all he is doing for them, while benefits to veterans like myself and millions of others are being jeopardized, so he can repay billionaires and fascists like Vladimir Putin who helped lift his two-ton, lying ass into office.

 

Trump needs to stay far away from our military, and closer to all those fawning suckers he cheats on and berates on his golf courses.

 

Instead, he actually said this out loud to impressionable young men and women today, who enlisted to defend this country not burn it down:

 

“And you will become officers of the greatest and most powerful army the world has ever known. And I know, because I rebuilt that army, and I rebuilt the military. And we rebuilt it like nobody has ever rebuilt it before in my first term.”

 

My God …

 

This orange lowlife has done nothing but DISGRACE that army. He doesn’t know a single, damn thing about army values, navy values, or ANY values, because the only thing he truly values — the only thing he has EVER valued — is himself.

 

As a sailor, who read Stars and Stripes newspaper in the 1970s, and then became the managing editor of that great, editorially independent newspaper many years later, I had the honor of being a part of our military, and understand it, and them, better than that ghastly, country club bully ever will.

 

Morally busted lowlifes like Trump are the enemy of that culture, not the example.

 

He has NEVER had what it takes to serve his country, because above all, he is a liar and a coward, who uses America as his personal ATM.

 

The fact is, he is an America-attacking draft-dodger, who has called our fallen "suckers and losers" and did nothing for three hours while law enforcement officers in uniform were stomped to near death during the worst attack on our Capitol since 1812.

 

He could have called in the National Guard in minutes to stop that January 6th attack, but didn't for one reason, and one reason only: He was hoping it would prevail.

 

He has belittled true heroes like the late John McCain, and disgraced Arlington National Cemetery more times than I can count. He did nothing after the professional propagandist he chose to lead our military shared top-secret information on his cell phone to God knows who, jeopardizing countless lives in our military that he alleges he cares so much about.

 

He is an enemy of the United States of America.

He is serial-liar and a cheater.

A racist.

A phony.

A punk.

A convicted felon.

A woman-abuser.

This dangerous bulls--- that he somehow loves our country or our military needs TO STOP RIGHT NOW.

 

He provably hates both.

 

He loves our country like an arsonist loves a burning house.

 

Duty, honor, country?

 

Give me a damn break. He doesn't have even the foggiest idea of what these things truly mean.

 

He can go straight to hell.

 

I SPIT ON HIM.

 

D. Earl Stephens is the author of “Toxic Tales: A Caustic Collection of Donald J. Trump’s Very Important Letters” and finished up a 30-year career in journalism as the Managing Editor of Stars and Stripes.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

A veteran tells Trump 'to go straight to hell'

D. Earl Stephens.

 

Sometimes, all this is just too damn much to take. Sometimes, just the thought of the grotesque Donald Trump being in the vicinity of the United States of America much less our White House makes me shake with rage ...

 

So when I read on Saturday morning that the revolting, America-attacking wretch had given the commencement address to our cadets at West Point, my heart began beating with a runaway rage.

 

I saw red. I pulled myself away from my desk and tried to compose myself. Then I returned and started typing, because when I saw this vile coward used this grotesque visit to honor himself, I decided a few things needed saying ...

 

This hideous man … his childish, red, made-in-China hat pulled tight over the dead ferret he tapes to his head each day, spent this morning lying to these cadets, and the world, about all he is doing for them, while benefits to veterans like myself and millions of others are being jeopardized, so he can repay billionaires and fascists like Vladimir Putin who helped lift his two-ton, lying ass into office.

 

Trump needs to stay far away from our military, and closer to all those fawning suckers he cheats on and berates on his golf courses.

 

Instead, he actually said this out loud to impressionable young men and women today, who enlisted to defend this country not burn it down:

 

“And you will become officers of the greatest and most powerful army the world has ever known. And I know, because I rebuilt that army, and I rebuilt the military. And we rebuilt it like nobody has ever rebuilt it before in my first term.”

 

My God …

 

This orange lowlife has done nothing but DISGRACE that army. He doesn’t know a single, damn thing about army values, navy values, or ANY values, because the only thing he truly values — the only thing he has EVER valued — is himself.

 

As a sailor, who read Stars and Stripes newspaper in the 1970s, and then became the managing editor of that great, editorially independent newspaper many years later, I had the honor of being a part of our military, and understand it, and them, better than that ghastly, country club bully ever will.

 

Morally busted lowlifes like Trump are the enemy of that culture, not the example.

 

He has NEVER had what it takes to serve his country, because above all, he is a liar and a coward, who uses America as his personal ATM.

 

The fact is, he is an America-attacking draft-dodger, who has called our fallen "suckers and losers" and did nothing for three hours while law enforcement officers in uniform were stomped to near death during the worst attack on our Capitol since 1812.

 

He could have called in the National Guard in minutes to stop that January 6th attack, but didn't for one reason, and one reason only: He was hoping it would prevail.

 

He has belittled true heroes like the late John McCain, and disgraced Arlington National Cemetery more times than I can count. He did nothing after the professional propagandist he chose to lead our military shared top-secret information on his cell phone to God knows who, jeopardizing countless lives in our military that he alleges he cares so much about.

 

He is an enemy of the United States of America.

He is serial-liar and a cheater.

A racist.

A phony.

A punk.

A convicted felon.

A woman-abuser.

This dangerous bulls--- that he somehow loves our country or our military needs TO STOP RIGHT NOW.

 

He provably hates both.

 

He loves our country like an arsonist loves a burning house.

 

Duty, honor, country?

 

Give me a damn break. He doesn't have even the foggiest idea of what these things truly mean.

 

He can go straight to hell.

 

I SPIT ON HIM.

 

D. Earl Stephens is the author of “Toxic Tales: A Caustic Collection of Donald J. Trump’s Very Important Letters” and finished up a 30-year career in journalism as the Managing Editor of Stars and Stripes.

Boring. 

On 7/19/2025 at 5:42 PM, JackGats said:

No one is asking the question: why would someone like Epstein/Maxwell have needed "a list". They were not running a cheap escort service where clients are known by code names. They may have had celebrities in their smartphone contacts, mixed with their families, lawyers, brokers school acquaintances, but probably not even that, rather they had secretaries taking care of any communications on a case-by-case basis. They knew how to contact those celebrities and influencial people if needed, and the latter knew how to contact them and were welcome to visit any time announced or unannounced. Yet most people want them to have run "a list":

 

1) Bill Clinton, President of the US (+ address and phone number)

2) Donald Trump, future President of the US,  (+ address and phone number)

3) Andrew of York, Prince,  (+ address and phone number)

4) etc.

 

 

 

 

Sounds like you're either guessing or just plain making things up.

 

 

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