USA Trump Sues Wall Street Journal Over Epstein Birthday Letter Claim

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Don't draw pictures

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Don't draw pictures

Let's see the letter produced. Then I'll say I was wrong. If it's not and Trump gets a huge pay out be it from a judicial finding or out of court settlement I'll guarantee none of the Trump haters on here will say they were wrong.

[frank83628]

This is all you need to know....

[bendejo]

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

So why didnt they release then earlier, why the sudden interest for the same files to be released?🤡

 

Why didn't Biden's AG take an active stance in locking this reprobate up ?   

 

 

[shdmn]

xoxo

 

 

[shdmn]

The lengths MAGAts will go to defend their cult leader.

 

[bendejo]

7 hours ago, SMIAI said:

MAGA hive mind. They all seem to be repeating exactly the same propaganda released by the Trump administration. No original thought at all.

 

Welcome to the world of US right-wing media.

Notice that the DT supporters and Fox fans on here repeat DT and Fox verbatim.  Bring up any aspect of this guy and his media circus that has not been covered by Fox/RT/OAN/et al and they are at a loss for a response, but they will try to divert to something Fox reported on that they can parrot.

E.g. DT/FOX: it's all the fault of that evil political mastermind Joe Biden.  Ten minutes later the same teevee personality will talk of how Biden was practically a comatose root vegetable.  

On the other hand there is the stuff Fox and its alumni plays down to a level that is borderline criminal, like "nothing happened on Jan 6 2021 except for the death of a visiting tourist," Russia had no part in the 2016 election, and all the rest.  

Man, I wish the Dems were as clever and brazen as MAGA makes them out to be.

 

[bendejo]

5 hours ago, BusyB said:

 

Just wait till Vance takes over. I firmly believe that's the gameplan.

 

Yes, IMO the same entity corrupting the SCOTUS is the real force behind the Project 2025 initiative, and that DT was their useful means of obtaining the WH.  The useful buffoon will be replaced by a patsy who will DO AS HE IS TOLD.  Looks like that will be the invertebrate Vance.

On the other hand look to what Team Nixon did in Watergate, and DT seems to be doing the same moves. like telling the public they are tired of hearing about Epstein.  Nixon tried to divert the political condemnations to his certifiably corrupt veep (Spiro Agnew), who was forced to resign, so when DT begins slamming on Vance you know he's really quaking.

 

There is a boatload container ship of things they can go after DT for that predates his entry into politics, like laundering money for Russian oligarchs and Iranians.  

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-hotel-in-baku-tied-to-corrupt-oligarchs-irans-revolutionary-guards-report/

 

 

[shdmn]

[BusyB]

 

Show me who your friends are and I'll show you who you are ... 

[jerrymahoney]

The only (?) comment on the Trump lawsuit so far:

 

A Dow Jones spokesperson said in a statement, “We have full confidence in the rigor and accuracy of our reporting, and will vigorously defend against any lawsuit.”

[gejohesch]

On 7/18/2025 at 10:51 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

This is a dangerous bluff. There is no way on gawd's green earth Rupert Murdoch didn't have the article describing the birthday letter screened by their attorneys with a fine tooth comb. All this will do is force the issue to the point that all Epstein information will have to be released, exposing many people in, shall we say, an unflattering light?

 

What this has done to the MAGA base is caused severe cognative dissonance - the state of discomfort felt when two or more modes of thought contradict each other. MAGA was promised for nearly 10 years that the Epstein cabal would finally be revealed, only to find they've been lied to. This was a primary foundation that 47 ran on and now MAGA loyalists feel betrayed. Numerous videos out there showing them burning their red hats out of anger.

 

The good news - there is hope for the MAGA loyalists who are finally realizing 47's superpower has been the ability to lie and get away with it, and are finally fed up with it. There is a group for redemption, and I hope people who are sick and tired of the treachery take advantage of it. https://leavingmaga.org/ 

"cognative dissonance"

Just wondering how it is possible all those MAGA's and other near-fanatic Trump supporters have not been suffering for years of acute cognative dissonance, just seeing the looks of Trump. Just look at him: does he have the face of a superman, of a genius, of a "God anointed saviour"??? No, he has all the looks of a vile and demented person!

[JohnOFphon]

This is just trump trying to join the Billionaire club...One law suit at a time.

[JimHuaHin]

Trump is full of crap and dangerously evil.

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, gejohesch said:

"cognative dissonance"

Just wondering how it is possible all those MAGA's and other near-fanatic Trump supporters have not been suffering for years of acute cognative dissonance, just seeing the looks of Trump. Just look at him: does he have the face of a superman, of a genius, of a "God anointed saviour"??? No, he has all the looks of a vile and demented person!

The few MAGA I still talk to (merely to keep peace in the family) are open racists. They admit he's a horrible man, but they like his racist points of view. Add to that the Dems have their heads so far up their butts that they can't tell if they're farting or sneezing, we have the perfect storm that has brought us to this point. It will pass. Even if it's like a kidney stone, it will pass.

[HappyExpat57]

2 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Trump is full of crap and dangerously evil.

 

And those are his GOOD points.

[gejohesch]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The few MAGA I still talk to (merely to keep peace in the family) are open racists. They admit he's a horrible man, but they like his racist points of view. Add to that the Dems have their heads so far up their butts that they can't tell if they're farting or sneezing, we have the perfect storm that has brought us to this point. It will pass. Even if it's like a kidney stone, it will pass.

It will pass : I surely hope so! I'm not American (USA) but I know how bad the situation is in the USA, and also, that affects the entire world. There is enough of a mess all around not to have to deal with the insanity of the current USA "regime" on top of it!

[BangkokReady]

On 7/19/2025 at 5:11 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

He’ll turn on Trump the moment there’s more ratings in negative news about Trump.

 

The moment?  Do you mean 2015?

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The few MAGA I still talk to (merely to keep peace in the family) are open racists. They admit he's a horrible man, but they like his racist points of view. Add to that the Dems have their heads so far up their butts that they can't tell if they're farting or sneezing, we have the perfect storm that has brought us to this point. It will pass. Even if it's like a kidney stone, it will pass.

You could be right with the 60% white Christian male MAGA. I am not too sure on the rest of MAGA who are seeing continuous flaws in Trump. It may pass but the fractures in Maga will be significant for the midterm and 2028 election which will certainly boost the Dems chances. 

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

the fractures in Maga will be significant for the midterm

They have no alternative.

[simple1]

18 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Public media organisations are not meant to be politically biased. Of course this is no longer the case. BBC, ABC (Australia) and CBC being glaring examples. 

 

All news media have a mix of news reporting / opinions pieces

[jerrymahoney]

AI quickie:

 

In federal court, * a defendant generally has 21 days to respond to a complaint after being served with the summons and complaint. This response can be either an answer or a pre-answer motion, such as a motion to dismiss. 

 

* Rule 12 Fed Rules civil procedure:

 

(1) In General.

(A) A defendant must serve an answer:

(i) within 21 days after being served with the summons and complaint;

[newnative]

On 7/19/2025 at 6:36 AM, shdmn said:

It was a concept of a plan.

 

Plus, she could always say she was just quoting the judge who tried his case.

[newnative]

Hit a nerve.

[Will B Good]

23 hours ago, dinsdale said:

 

He can't sue simply on the basis that the card is fake (if indeed it is)..........he must show its publication was done with malice.

 

Considering the staggering amount of support Murdoch has shown/given him over the years that is not going to be easy.

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

He can't sue simply on the basis that the card is fake (if indeed it is)..........he must show its publication was done with malice.

Exactly, Trump can't win in court. 

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Considering the staggering amount of support Murdoch has shown/given him over the years that is not going to be easy.

Rupert Murdoch has not been calling the shots for years. 

 

WSJ will settle to avoid discovery. 

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Exactly, Trump can't win in court. 

Rupert Murdoch has not been calling the shots for years. 

 

WSJ will settle to avoid discovery. 

 

Why would they want to avoid discovery?......genuine question.

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Why would they want to avoid discovery?......genuine question.

Because, I think, that would give Trump access to all records and communications that could in any way be remotely related to the action, and that could all become public. 

 

George Stephanopoulos and ABC would likely have lost in court, they had to settle. 

 

 

[MarkBR]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

You could be right with the 60% white Christian male MAGA. I am not too sure on the rest of MAGA who are seeing continuous flaws in Trump. It may pass but the fractures in Maga will be significant for the midterm and 2028 election which will certainly boost the Dems chances. 

They are not Christian.

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Because, I think, that would give Trump access to all records and communications that could in any way be remotely related to the action, and that could all become public. 

 

George Stephanopoulos and ABC would likely have lost in court, they had to settle. 

 

 

 

Think I've got it......that access you mention above, could then show the malice part?......Correct?