3 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

Try to read the relevant thread, I can assure you you that is has been slapped on my Kasikorn account. And you'll see that it is likely to affect us all.

 

I've just given you proof - that I made 4x 49,999 baht transactions on the same day (5 days ago with SCB) and have also done so in the last month with Bangkok Bank.

 

Whatever 'restrictions' you have...  its not a general rule as far as I'm aware....   perhaps its a K-Bank restriction ?

 

Please give me a link to 'the relevant thread'..   I'd be interested to see what restrictions people have encountered. 

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Whatever 'restrictions' you have...  its not a general rule as far as I'm aware....   perhaps its a K-Bank restriction ?

The irony..

 

Whatever "restriction" you don't have...

 

 

30 minutes ago, Mattd said:

I disagree, my daily limits are higher than 50,000, so if I want to transfer 99,000 to one person, I could make 2 x 49,500 transactions. 

If your daily limits are HIGHER than 50k, why can you not transfer 99k.

2 hours ago, transam said:

A rather silly comment, in your home country, how long does a driving licence last for...? 🤔

The photocard version is valid for 10 years until 70th birthday, then renew every three years.

3 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

The irony..

 

Whatever "restriction" you don't have...

 

 

 

OK...  thats more clear now...   

 

So this daily restriction of 50,000 baht is only for Kasikorn Bank. 

 

 

 

 

 

This is posted in the Banglamung office.

 

 

and if we let Google loose on it we get:

7 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

38 minutes ago, Mattd said:

I disagree, my daily limits are higher than 50,000, so if I want to transfer 99,000 to one person, I could make 2 x 49,500 transactions. 

If your daily limits are HIGHER than 50k, why can you not transfer 99k.

 

Because non-NDID transactions are limited to <50,000 baht per transaction (i.e. 49,999 baht) - so two transactions need to be performed. 

 

Only Thai's can get NDID verification because its tied to the biometrics in their Thai ID card.

 

(NDID = National Digital ID)

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

The photocard version is valid for 10 years until 70th birthday, then renew every three years.

Yes, in the UK, but I wanted to know from the bloke I was replying too, because I doubt many countries do 2 or even 5 year licences...

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

Only Thai's can get NDID verification because its tied to the biometrics in their Thai ID card.

What biometrics are on a Thai ID card.? Low-res photo and your approximate height, that's it.

30 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Which do you believe... MOTS (an agency bidding for clients which charges 4500 baht to 'assist' foreigners getting their Driving license when they can easily do it themselves)... 

 

Or an announcement on TikTok (if a copy of an official announcement) which makes no mention of Non-O and Non-OA visas... 

 

Which one do you believe ?, because they are somewhat contradictory.... and both involve ambiguity.

 

 

 

I believe both just one didn't think to comment on the non Imm O

1 hour ago, jayboy said:

It has nothing to do with any changes to banking rules.

Totally agree. And please stay on-topic of driving licences.

4 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Only Thai's can get NDID verification because its tied to the biometrics in their Thai ID card.

What biometrics are on a Thai ID card.? Low-res photo and your approximate height, that's it.

 

No idea... but its part of the NDID system - and foreigners are not part of that.

 

To register for NDID Thai's needed to go to their Bank with their Thai ID and have their face scanned - their 'Bank' face scan' was directly linked to their Thai ID.

 

 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

No idea... but its part of the NDID system - and foreigners are not part of that.

 

To register for NDID Thai's needed to go to their Bank with their Thai ID and have their face scanned - their 'Bank' face scan' was directly linked to their Thai ID.

 

 

They photograph my face every time I go to the bank now, and other offices.

 

4 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

1 hour ago, jayboy said:

It has nothing to do with any changes to banking rules.

Totally agree. And please stay on-topic of driving licences.

 

Valid point - but the evolution of the discussion does highlight precisely how ambiguous announcements and the differences across regions, DLT offices, even Amphurs creates extremely 'muddied waters' which we all are trying to navigate.

 

These 'differences' are the very reason threads such as this end up with such debate - announcements are poor, they lack clarity, experiences very from office to office, officer to officer, region to region and from person to person.... 

 

We when end up in a 'you're wrong I'm right' debate...   At least in this case, Scuba's announcement was a infographic which specified this is ONLY the Rayong and Banglamung DLT....  Nevertheless, two 'graphics posted' both include ambiguity and a degree of inaccuracy - which is being debated.

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Not arguing with that....but not nationwide?......they've just gone rogue?????

 

Rogue?

 

Like all the immigration offices nationwide that march to the beat of their own drum? Always have and always will?

8 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

No idea... but its part of the NDID system - and foreigners are not part of that.

 

To register for NDID Thai's needed to go to their Bank with their Thai ID and have their face scanned - their 'Bank' face scan' was directly linked to their Thai ID.

 

 

They photograph my face every time I go to the bank now, and other offices.

 

They did the same with me in BKK Bank...  when NDID came about.

 

At the time I thought it was that BKK Bank allowed foreigners into the NDID system - but what it really was, was their version of allowing foreigners to FACE ID so they could set higher limits on their App etc.

 

I haven't been in a physical bank for a while now - but perhaps this is what Kasikorn require so that their daily limit can be increased...

 

I also agree that the banking aspect is 'off-topic' - nevertheless, is part of the natural meandering of a thread - and important and useful information has come out of it.

 

 

Again - further examples of how Mileage varies... 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if two different forum members went to Banglamung DLT with exactly the same visa and documentation and received a different result !!!! 

 

 

25 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

OK...  thats more clear now...   

 

So this daily restriction of 50,000 baht is only for Kasikorn Bank. 

 

 

 

 

 

So far number of Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank accounts have been hit.

5 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

30 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

OK...  thats more clear now...   

 

So this daily restriction of 50,000 baht is only for Kasikorn Bank. 

 

So far number of Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank accounts have been hit.

 

I've just run transactions on my K-Bank...  I've been hit by it too...  But...  this is only for Kasikorn Bank. 

 

I also wonder, IF I go into a Kasikorn Branch, if I can increase my Daily Limit there... or if they offer a 'face scan' option for a foreigner so my daily limit can be increased on the App (it seems this may be the case in the other thread you linked to)....

 

Again - although its off-topic - this is very important info, as just last week it was fortunate that I'd received money into SCB rather than K-Bank...  had I chosen K-Bank I would have been late paying off Credit Cards if stuck to a daily Trx limit of 50k.... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Probably off-topic, but might be worth reading....

 

About 6 years back I had an operation in a hospital up country. Plenty of money in the BKK Bank, my card kept getting rejected trying to pay my bill, luckily there was a BKK Bank on site.

Same thing, could not withdraw the amount I wanted. Asked to see the manager, understood a bit of English, I explained my problem, she took my card, came back and said it was because you are on your BKK Bank branch as on a tourist or similar visa, which has a daily limit of 50Kbht, anyhooo, she did a bit of magic at the ATM, punching in stuff with her card and eventually had the money to pay the bill, then told to go to my branch and show a long term visa so they can amend their/my records...🤗

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Further evidence

From: Tik Tok services Thailand at Pattaya, Thailand.

 

That sounds serious 🤣🤣

And now thread derailed with another Kbank limits discussion.

This forum becomes a complete utter mess.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Thats incorrect Peter: I regularly make multiple transactions daily that total more than 50,000 baht per day.

- With Kasikorn Bank, with Bangkok Bank and with Siam Commercial Bank. 

 

For example:

Just this wee with SCB : 18-July: I made 4x  49,999 baht transfers (within 5 mins of each other). 

Last month I made similar transactions: 

 

The daily limit on Prompt Pay with SCB: is now 200,000 baht (I hit this limit this week).

The daily limit on Prompt Pay with BKK Bank: was 500,000 baht (but that was last month, I'm not sure if there have been any changes to this, as even though we see the limit the restrictions kick in when we attempt the transaction)

 

All very annoying that we too (foreigners) cannot get NDID.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In order to end this endless conversation, Richard, try to transfer 500,000 Baht to my BKK account. I'll let you know if it went through. I'm waiting.

54 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

If your daily limits are HIGHER than 50k, why can you not transfer 99k.

Because, as with most others, SCB have slapped a limit of 49,999 THB per transaction, due to the withdrawal of the facial recognition exemption, this doesn't stop me from making multiple transactions to one account or vendor in one day up to the daily limit though

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I also wonder, IF I go into a Kasikorn Branch, if I can increase my Daily Limit there... or if they offer a 'face scan' option for a foreigne

I have [had] the face scan, but they made it redundant...

 

I brought up the topic as a feel there is a climate now where Thailand tries to  make life difficult for foreigners in all aspects of everyday life. And we are clearly singled out with both the banking and driver licence changes. We could also debate about the income tax.

1 minute ago, KhunBENQ said:

From: Tik Tok services Thailand at Pattaya, Thailand.

 

That sounds serious 🤣🤣

The agents go to the Transport Offices every day so will have the latest info, the old farang on here won't know anything, just head in the sand usually 

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Probably an attempt at reciprocating against Trump's tariffs. 

Naah - they are targeting the flakey expat areas.....

I wonder if a significant number of TDL holders are getting rung up on vehicular charges after traveling back to their home country using the TDL for their license....

4 minutes ago, Dutchjohn said:

In order to end this endless conversation, Richard, try to transfer 500,000 Baht to my BKK account. I'll let you know if it went through. I'm waiting.

 

Which 'endless conversation' are you trying to end.

 

Its been shown that: 

a) 4x 49,999 Baht transactions in one day can be made from SCB M-Banking APP.

b) Even though my SCB Daily limit on the APP is 300,000 baht - (it appears my daily SCB Limit is 200,000 baht

c) Last month I made 6x 49,999 Baht transactions in one day from BKK M-Banking APP.

d) I've just tried to make more than 1x 49,999 Baht transaction on K-Bank APP and was rejected.

 

Conclusion: (from a Personal Perspective)

 

a) Transfer restrictions for all foreigners apply: Less than 50,000 Baht per Transaction

b) SCB Limits: Regardless of what we set in the App - Not more than 200,000 per day.

c) BKK Bank Limits: 300,000 per day (proven) - not sure what the Max is now (regardless of what we set in the app)

d) KT Limits: Less than 50,000 Baht per Transaction per day

 

If you want proof @Dutchjohn of a more than 50,000 baht transaction in one day from an Online Banking APP - it there in the post you replied to.... (4x 49,999 baht trx in one day from SCB).

 

Given my Daily Limit appears to be set below my APP settings with SCB it appears there are limits on foreigners

SCB: < 200,000 baht 

BKK Bank: < 300,000 baht (possibly - not tested above this)

KTB: < 50,000 baht 

 

Its also not confirmed if going into a Branch and registering our faces and applying to increase the limits is possible.

 

Thats as honest and balanced as I can be to any response on this - and I believe that even though its off-topic, its still important info.

 

That said: contrary to Peter's comment (quoted below) I don't believe this has anything to do with 'targeting foreigners' - its simply the Banks Protecting themsleves and as we account for so little of their business, we are not really a concern.

 

16 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

I brought up the topic as a feel there is a climate now where Thailand tries to  make life difficult for foreigners in all aspects of everyday life. And we are clearly singled out with both the banking and driver licence changes. We could also debate about the income tax.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Yikes!… You must have had a grand ole time at the Karaoke Bar!… 

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

That said: contrary to Peter's comment (quoted below) I don't believe this has anything to do with 'targeting foreigners' - its simply the Banks Protecting themsleves and as we account for so little of their business, we are not really a concern.

Kasikorn clients of Thai nationality keep their 4000000 limit. So how can you say foreigners aren't singled out? Neither are Thais concerned by the drivers license change.

4 minutes ago, BKKKevin said:

Yikes!… You must have had a grand ole time at the Karaoke Bar!… 

Some people here have/had a life, Mate.