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Hospital checking visa

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3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

how do they access your phone if you are unconscious ?

Precisely.

My ID and medical insurance card in my wallet has likely been a lifesaver once when i was attacked by somebody, when i nudged into him when somebody pushed me going to get served at the bar, and i was smashed over the head unconscious. A long time ago.

People called an ambulance and they tried to find my ID, the wallet gave them what they needed.

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  • Quite understandable, as if you are an overstay, I'd be asking for payment in advance.  If you're the type of person that would overstay, you'd be the type of person that would stick them with a bill.

  • And when you asked why - which you surely did, right? - what did they say?

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    Don't some types of visa extension required health insurance?   Maybe checking for that?

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Outside of Immigration, I have found that the situations when staff ask to see my passport, it ls when they will ask a Thai for their national ID card.   

 

IOW, the request if for formal identification, not to check whether your passport is valid or whether you have overstayed your permit-to-stay date.

 

I resist showing my passport since I do not want to have to carry it outside the house, unless necessary.

 

Thus, at the post office when mailing EMS or registered mail, I just show my driver's license when they ask for my PP.

 

Same when checking in for a domestic flight.

 

Also, when at the bank, they sometimes ask to see my passport when I am withdrawing funds or requesting a new passbook for my savings accounts.  But, I believe that they want the passport for signature verification -- not policing immigration status.   (I realize it is different when opening a new bank account.)

 

Thus, if you have a Thai DL, I encourage you to use that, even if you've brought your PP. That way, perhaps, we can reduce the expectation that we ex-pats will always have our PP on hand.

I use my driving licence when I got to my usual (private) hospital. I don't feel comfortable with my passport circulating out of my sight between nurses and staff.

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2 hours ago, TaoNow said:

Also, when at the bank, they sometimes ask to see my passport when I am withdrawing funds or requesting a new passbook for my savings accounts.  But, I believe that they want the passport for signature verification -- not policing immigration status. 

Everything else you wrote I agree with. 

But, last week in the hospital, they were not interested in identifcation (didn't want to see picture page of pp) -  the only thing they wanted to see was the permission to stay.  This was clearly policing my immigration status,  nothing else.

As for the banks,  there are many reports that indicate the same: they want to see the date of the permission of stay. They do copy not only ID pages,  but visa pages. 

 

 

1 hour ago, JackGats said:

I use my driving licence when I got to my usual (private) hospital. I don't feel comfortable with my passport circulating out of my sight between nurses and staff.

Taking international flights must give you a headache. All those strangers, airline staff + immigration etc wanting to see your pp. 

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7 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Taking international flights must give you a headache. All those strangers, airline staff + immigration etc wanting to see your pp. 

All those strangers are not passing around my passport out of my sight.

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In the first place I have not had a visa for the last 34 years. Extension of stay no visa. Why should not carry your passport with you eveytime you leave the house is simple "Theft". I work at the US Embassy for over 14 years in Bangkok, every Monday morning there was a line up of US Citizens that had Lost their Passports . It's not safe to carrie Kerry wrong  Carrie Especially at night out drinking.

11 minutes ago, Dickp said:

Why should not carry your passport with you eveytime you leave the house is simple "Theft"

You serious! 

Most pp loss is when out on the turps and having pp with you when not really required. 

The thread is about attending a hospital and furthermore the hospital checking your valid permission of stay stamp. 

Perfectly acceptable. 

 

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3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You serious! 

Most pp loss is when out on the turps and having pp with you when not really required. 

The thread is about attending a hospital and furthermore the hospital checking your valid permission of stay stamp. 

Perfectly acceptable. 

 

You still don't want to understand the difference between

- a planned appointment at a hospital, as an outpatient,  where many people bring their passport or DL as ID (I have never had a hospital check my permission of stay as an outpatienr)

- being brought to a hospital by ambulance,  after an emergency outside of your home,  for possible inpatient treatment, in which case many people won't have their pp with them

 

In any case,  the hospital checking pp as means of ID, I feel comfortable with this. 

The hospital as assistant of the police (immigration is part of the police force) by checking permissions of stay of inpatients - no, I do not feel comfortable with this

11 minutes ago, Lorry said:

The hospital as assistant of the police (immigration is part of the police force) by checking permissions of stay of inpatients - no, I do not feel comfortable with this

Whatever. Feel as uncomfortable as you wish. 

I'm happy to have my valid permission of stay checked by hospital or hotel or airline (as they do) 

No issue at all. 

 

8 hours ago, Lorry said:

The hospital as assistant of the police (immigration is part of the police force) by checking permissions of stay of inpatients - no, I do not feel comfortable with this

 

Just a comment (without taking sides). 

 

In the U.S., we have been conditioned to be sensitive to the privacy issues. We have no issue when immigration officer or an airline employee checks our passport and visa. That is part of their job, and they are required to do that.

 

However, when bank clerks, hospital nurses, hotel desk clerks, and other random people start going through our passports, and walking them out of our sight, and bending them, etc., we cringe. Arguably, it's part of their job as well. But all they have to do is take a look and return the passport. Instead, they often handle it the way that instills doubt whether they will damage it or even lose it. 

 

For example, when I opened my SCB account, it took hours. Like, three hours. During that time, the clerk must have opened my passport 20-30 times, and thumbed through it, and bent it backwards, and put a glass of water to keep it open. I just wanted to rip it out of her hands! 

2 hours ago, Equatorial said:

But all they have to do is take a look and return the passport

My (extensive) experience re pp at hospital... 

I walk in sit down. Staff approach, I hand over my pp. Staff return pp basically instantly and put the identification tag on wrist. 

Same procedure even if I'm admitted. 

Did they also check my permission of stay stamp? 

Doubt it but don't know don't care. 

2 hours ago, Equatorial said:

Instead, they often handle it the way that instills doubt whether they will damage it or even lose it

Your anxiety is unusual. 

On 8/11/2025 at 3:10 PM, Ralf001 said:

yeah I do not take my passport with me to hopsital.

Do you not think these greedy hospitals would care if you did not have your passport? All they are really interested in is how much money they can get from you.

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18 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

Do you not think these greedy hospitals would care if you did not have your passport? All they are really interested in is how much money they can get from you.

People on overstay rarely visit Bumrungrad 

(and Ladkrabang Hospital won't know how to check a visa)

On 8/11/2025 at 6:07 AM, KhunLA said:

Quite understandable, as if you are an overstay, I'd be asking for payment in advance.  If you're the type of person that would overstay, you'd be the type of person that would stick them with a bill.

 

Good on them and any vendor that asked to see your visa, within reason.   Spot checks are how criminals get caught.   You think PoPo pulled you over because you didn't have your turning signal on ... NO ... looking for criminals and you gave them probable cause.  If you're not an Ahole, you get a warning and on your way.

 

Hoping to see a lot more, as obviously, too many criminals & riff raff in country, proven by all the headliners on AN  :coffee1:

 

... and strongly hinted at by the number of thumbs down you just scored.

2 minutes ago, BusyB said:

 

... and strongly hinted at by the number of thumbs down you just scored.

I could say I gave 100k THB to a charity, and I'd get a bunch of 👎

When I asked hospital staff why they were checking my Passport and Visa, they replied that they wanted to know if I was a tourist or resident.

They further explained that my Retirement Visa classed me as resident and that I would get the Thai price. Which also tells us that tourists are being ripped off for more. 

 

I still get the impression that Farangs pay more than Thais.

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6 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

When I asked hospital staff why they were checking my Passport and Visa, they replied that they wanted to know if I was a tourist or resident.

They further explained that my Retirement Visa classed me as resident and that I would get the Thai price. Which also tells us that tourists are being ripped off for more. 

 

I still get the impression that Farangs pay more than Thais.

A typical pricing structure of a top-end Thai private hospital is

 

- Thai price

- resident foreigner

- tourist

 

A second-tier hospital (Yanhee, Vejthanee etc) often also accepts social security patients,  different service,  cheaper prices. 

 

On 8/15/2025 at 5:04 PM, Lorry said:

Everything else you wrote I agree with. 

But, last week in the hospital, they were not interested in identifcation (didn't want to see picture page of pp) -  the only thing they wanted to see was the permission to stay.  This was clearly policing my immigration status,  nothing else.

As for the banks,  there are many reports that indicate the same: they want to see the date of the permission of stay. They do copy not only ID pages,  but visa pages.

I have a copy of the "face page" of my passport on a laminated card, with the latest-extension on the flip-side.  I go to a copy-shop to update this immediately after I get a new 1-year extension from immigration.  It is immediately visible if opening my wallet.  Also my Thai-Health card, with "my hospital" stickied on the back.

He was reluctant to give his passport to the airline staff, so you can imagine his horror when he had to hand it to Thai immigration officials, who treated it with the same care as a college student on spring break. They then made multiple copies of it, using them as visa extension questionnaires. All his personal information was visible on the back of the paper for all the Patels and Mohammeds to see.

 

 

Man some dumb $#!% I read here

On 8/16/2025 at 2:04 PM, Dickp said:

In the first place I have not had a visa for the last 34 years. Extension of stay no visa.

Based on what, non-o visa? Semantics of annual extensions of non-o visas.

56 minutes ago, novacova said:

Based on what, non-o visa? Semantics of annual extensions of non-o visas.

It's not semantics at all.
 

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On 8/11/2025 at 2:36 PM, impulse said:

Out of curiosity, are hospitals required to file a TM30 on you if they keep you overnight?

 

And if they do, are they required to check for a visa and/or and entry stamp?

 

I believe they do in Phuket. Last month I did my retirement extension, the IO had a paper in front of him, he said you need to update your address I have you staying at Bangkok Hospital Siriroj Phuket, and yes I was there in March for Hernia repair surgery......ridiculous its quite a TM30 address system they are trying their best to run here.......

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3 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

I believe they do in Phuket. Last month I did my retirement extension, the IO had a paper in front of him, he said you need to update your address I have you staying at Bangkok Hospital Siriroj Phuket, and yes I was there in March for Hernia repair surgery......ridiculous its quite a TM30 address system they are trying their best to run here.......

Never happened to me  (in Bangkok).

The hospital wouldn't have my current pp number anyway. I registered decades ago, at the time, a pp wasn't even necessary. Don't know whether they have an antique pp of mine on file or not.

4 minutes ago, Lorry said:

The hospital wouldn't have my current pp number anyway. I registered decades ago, at the time, a pp wasn't even necessary. Don't know whether they have an antique pp of mine on file or not.

You could always present your current pp next time you visit hospital. 

Just a wild idea. 

9 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Never happened to me  (in Bangkok).

The hospital wouldn't have my current pp number anyway. I registered decades ago, at the time, a pp wasn't even necessary. Don't know whether they have an antique pp of mine on file or not.

If there's health insurance involved they will want to have peak at your passport 

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19 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You could always present your current pp next time you visit hospital. 

Just a wild idea. 

That's really a wild idea. 

Ambulance brings patient,  semi-conscious. Uniformed staff - nurses? doctors? nurse assistants? technicians? cashiers? - all around. 

Who might be the one interested in my pp?

Famous last words: "This is my current passport number!"

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30 minutes ago, CANSIAM said:

If there's health insurance involved they will want to have peak at your passport 

They were even less interested in my pp than the hospital. 

 

All insurances I know are only interested in a patient's pp if they need the pp for a repatriation. 

They DO want to talk to the patient personally,  they don't want to rely just on the papers the hospital sends them. 

YMMV

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