1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

He will not serve one day in a prison cell.

Correct, because of his age it will be served at home. 

His former buddy in Cambodia won,t help him this time to escape! JAIL TIME!

1 hour ago, mfd101 said:

Wow!

 

So now there'll be an appeal process? And further Get Out of Jail cards to play, including air navigation matters ...

 

No appeal.  It is not a criminal case.  It was just a determination of whether the sentence previously handed down had been served or not.

I'll bet the next 12 months is very profitable for someone who looks a lot like Thaksin.  A body double, if you will...

 

It'll suck being in prison, but the pay will probably be worth it.

 

I don't really understand the hatred from expats.  It's not like he's any worse than the other politicians, or that Thailand will suddenly become uncorrupt and thrive under the next one.  In fact, he's about the only one I've seen with the stroke to keep too many snouts out of the trough. 

 

Like the strongmen who put Singapore, Korea and Taiwan on the road to being successful economies.  They enriched their families beyond all reason, but still left enough to grow their economies.  Without Thaksin, it'll be a free for all in Thailand.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Correct, because of his age it will be served at home. 

 

There will definitely be some leniencies starting with separation from the prison population and a comfortable aircon private cell with food delivered from famous restaurants.  Serving the sentence at home is not beyond the bounds of possibility.  But, if criminal cases are initiated against corrupt officials relating to the 14F case, they may be more cautious this time.  Thaksin has a reputation for not taking care of most of the people who do prison time for him. 

Is this "Schadendreude" that we see on this thread.

 

I don't like the guy either, but I find the idea of a 76 years old in a Thai prison quite scary, I'd be dead the first week.

I predicted he might willingly go down or perhaps receive a suspended sentence in order to gain sympathy for PT and the Shinawats.

If he hadn't come back from Dubai, it would have done nothing for his popularity or PT's -'Oh, the billionaire has gone on the run again. Will it be another 15 years away?'

But why leave the country suddenly on Thursday and then immediately promise to return on Monday?

Did he leave because he feared getting sent down, but was promised that wouldn't be the case, so he vowed to return?

Or is it all a plan to gain sympathy as I suggest in my first paragraph?

I

 

 

2 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

 

 

I don't like the guy either, but I find the idea of a 76 years old in a Thai prison quite scary, I'd be dead the first week.

 

 

You would.

 

He won't.

 

 

You wouldn't get the trappings that Khun Thaksin will get.

Just now, bannork said:

I predicted he might willingly go down or perhaps receive a suspended sentence in order to gain sympathy for PT and the Shinawats.

If he hadn't come back from Dubai, it would have done nothing for his popularity or PT's -'Oh, the billionaire has gone on the run again. Will it be another 15 years away?'

But why leave the country suddenly on Thursday and then immediately promise to return on Monday?

Did he leave because he feared getting sent down, but was promised that wouldn't be the case, so he vowed to return?

Or is it all a plan to gain sympathy as I suggest in my first paragraph?

I

 

 

 

 

I must admit that I couldn't see the purpose of trip to Dubai (it was always going to be Dubai) within a few days of the hearing.

Just now, hotandsticky said:

 

 

I must admit that I couldn't see the purpose of trip to Dubai (it was always going to be Dubai) within a few days of the hearing.

 

 

I'd love to think he was intending to run away again.....but he got a call from Anutin to say the court was going to rule in his favour and he could comeback.......5555

11 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Correct, because of his age it will be served at home. 

This is not what he is sentenced to, a court has to order this 

13 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Correct, because of his age it will be served at home. 

Why did they bring him to prison then?

17 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Correct, because of his age it will be served at home. 

Thailand does not have a formal system of house arrest as a substitute for prison sentences in high-profile criminal cases.

 

But there are exceptions typically tied to

 

  ⁠◦  Terminal illness or severe disability

  ⁠◦  Advanced age with verified medical incapacity

  ⁠◦  Royal clemency, which can include sentence suspension—but only under extraordinary circumstances

 

 

So there's always a chance he could end up under house arrest.....then from there....Dubai.

15 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Correct, because of his age it will be served at home. 

I remember a woman I think was over 70 being sentenced to 20 years I think it was for picking mushrooms in a national park.

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

Is it even possible to appeal a verdict set by the supreme court?

 

I don't think so... I think even in Thailand, "Supreme Court" is as high as it gets in the court system.

 

That said, I think the Corrections Dept. has some latitude in how long he might actually serve, and where he serves it, assuming he does.

 

Of course, one can never rule out that as soon as he's actually jail, assuming he ever is, that some "new" medical issue might arise that would lead to him once again being hospitalized somewhere.... instead of serving time in a regular custody setting.  But any ploy like that a second time round is likely to get immediate and intense scrutiny.

 

Anyone taking bets?

 

 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Thailand does not have a formal system of house arrest as a substitute for prison sentences in high-profile criminal cases.

 

But there are exceptions are rare and typically tied to

  ⁠◦  Terminal illness or severe disability

  ⁠◦  Advanced age with verified medical incapacity

  ⁠◦  Royal clemency, which can include sentence suspension—but only under extraordinary circumstances

 

 

So there's always a chance he could end up under house arrest.....then from there....Dubai.

If he gets house arrest that will dilute a lot of the public sympathy. He needs to be seen in prison gear to really regain popularity.

Note both Thaksin and Paetongtarn  had prepared speeches to wheel out immediately post conviction.

As if they knew the chances of conviction were high.

10 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

You would.

 

He won't.

 

 

You wouldn't get the trappings that Khun Thaksin will get.

 

 

You mean he won't be on the infamous two servings of watery rice per day meal plan???

 

Just now, bannork said:

If he gets house arrest that will dilute a lot of the public sympathy. He needs to be seen in prison gear to really regain popularity.

Note both Thaksin and Paetongtarn  had prepared speeches to wheel out immediately post conviction.

As if they knew the chances of conviction were high.

 

 

...and by all accounts (i.e. the wife)....money buys you a lot of comforts in jail.

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

If he gets house arrest that will dilute a lot of the public sympathy. He needs to be seen in prison gear to really regain popularity.

Note both Thaksin and Paetongtarn  had prepared speeches to wheel out immediately post conviction.

As if they knew the chances of conviction were high.

He will not get house arrest this has to be ordered by the court and they have not done so 

Thailand's Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra must serve one year in prison

 

1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

I hope he goes through the normal strip search and squat to make sure he got nothing up his bum, 

Please no personal fantasies 😏

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I don't think so... I think even in Thailand, "Supreme Court" is as high as it gets in the court system.

 

That said, I think the Corrections Dept. has some latitude in how long he might actually serve, and where he serves it, assuming he does.

 

Of course, one can never rule out that as soon as he's actually jail, assuming he ever is, that some "new" medical issue might arise that would lead to him once again being hospitalized somewhere.... instead of serving time in a regular custody setting.  But any ploy like that a second time round is likely to get immediate and intense scrutiny.

 

Anyone taking bets?

 

 

Any more ploys will render the efforts to gain sympathy useless.

As it is, every Thai knows his 'imprisonment' first time around was a farce with nothing but lies about his 'serious illness', so, imo, he's really got to play the game this time to gather sympathy.

Tony in prison gear seeing mailbags or whatever they do in prison, will well up  tears amongst the public.

Perhaps we should consult our resident Thai jail expert here, Liverpool Lou, I believe is his handle, as to the daily activities at Klong Prem 

Making of a martyr.

The Move Forward political  group should be counting its blessings to not be mixed up in this feud.

2 scenarios
1. House arrest
2. Royal pardon

He will not do a year in jail

1 minute ago, zzzzz said:

2 scenarios
1. House arrest
2. Royal pardon

He will not do a year in jail

From what I read, to get a second Royal pardon is unheard of, but of course there's always a first time. 

28 minutes ago, impulse said:

Like the strongmen who put Singapore, Korea and Taiwan on the road to being successful economies.  They enriched their families beyond all reason, but still left enough to grow their economies.  Without Thaksin, it'll be a free for all in Thailand.

 

 

Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore) was many things but he was never corrupt. In fact he made sure politicians were very well paid to lessen the temptation. Singapore just jailed a former minister for accepting F1 hospitality.

LKT's kids are just upper middle class and not rich as evidenced by the fights over the one thing of great value LKT left behind. A lovely landed house in downtown Singapore.

 

In some months he is free on probation!!

 

12 minutes ago, Spilornis said:

Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore) was many things but he was never corrupt. In fact he made sure politicians were very well paid to lessen the temptation. Singapore just jailed a former minister for accepting F1 hospitality.

LKT's kids are just upper middle class and not rich as evidenced by the fights over the one thing of great value LKT left behind. A lovely landed house in downtown Singapore.

 

You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. LKY and his family are worth billions. 

19 minutes ago, bannork said:

From what I read, to get a second Royal pardon is unheard of, but of course there's always a first time. 

If they can jail Thaksin a long list of lesser elites  and more deserving ones should be rotting in jail now. 
 

2 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

Is it even possible to appeal a verdict set by the supreme court?

Yes it's possible.  He could appeal to me.

 

I'd need many, many long-time 'meetings' with his daughter to fully and deeply discuss.

 

That would take about a year, at which time I'd be fully satisfied that his appeal is truly valid.  And Thaksin could therefore be released.

 

🤪

54 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

Is this "Schadendreude" that we see on this thread.

 

I don't like the guy either, but I find the idea of a 76 years old in a Thai prison quite scary, I'd be dead the first week.

It's his fault he didn't serve it earlier.