1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

We weren't there so no one knows exactly what was said. He feared for his life and didn't want to be shot by the police is more believable. Anything else is hearsay. Turning himself in has him safe in custody, from the police and anyone else who would be after him. It also has him sitting pretty quietly while others who might be involved are incognito. Of course it could be as simple as he was the shooter, but from what we see, that video doesn't show him with a rifle, the rifle found hasn't been proven ballistically as the weapon, and those texts do not sound like they are coming from someone his age, although they do make the boyfriend sound un-involved. This might be a lot different than you think, or again, very simple.

No evidence of a grassy knoll shooter

Just now, Harrisfan said:

No evidence of a grassy knoll shooter

No, but Oswald didn't act alone.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You didn't ask me but my answer is DEFINITELY. 

He hated socialism and wars. Why would he be a Nazi? 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I have watched hours and hours of Charie Kirk over the years. I bet you have not watched ten minutes. 

Wrong. 

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I bet Shapiro will be avoiding outdoor events. He likes the indoor stuff.

Charming.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You didn't ask me but my answer is DEFINITELY. 

Have you even seen many of his videos where he favors the Jews? Not quite Nazi thinking from what I've seen.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Are you saying that if Kirk was alive in 1940's Germany he'd be a Nazi?

 

  You can read my post and no, that  what what I was saying .

I'll rephrase my post .

If there was  war on, would it then be ok to kill Kirk ?

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Wrong. 

you are

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

He hated socialism and wars. Why would he be a Nazi? 

The white nationalist racism.

The ideology of white American culture being the superior one and that it should be dominant.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Have you even seen many of his videos where he favors the Jews? Not quite Nazi thinking from what I've seen.

Two of his best friends were Shapiro and Owens. Jew and black lady. Not exactly a racist.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The white nationalist racism.

The ideology of white American culture being the superior one and that it should be dominant.

Candice Owens said Kirk was her best friend. He was not racist.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The white nationalist racism.

The ideology of white American culture being the superior one and that it should be dominant.

We all know you hate Trump. I dislike him myself and only hope he does his job, but have you ever tried to look at Kirk without that political thinking? I've never seen any talk of white supremacy or prejudice from him. Did I somehow miss some videos where he said this?

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The white nationalist racism.

The ideology of white American culture being the superior one and that it should be dominant.

That you have to lie proves the weakness of your argument. 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Have you even seen many of his videos where he favors the Jews? Not quite Nazi thinking from what I've seen.

Yes.

You're really are very ignorant about that.

He had a lot of very vile hateful rhetoric towards American Jews calling them cultural Marxists.

He was a FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN.

Yes they are generally very pro right wing Israeli governments.

Why?

Because under their weird belief system of prophesy certain things need to happen with Israeli for this to be the end times with the second coming.

Their ideology continues that all Jews that don't accept the second coming as savior will be damned to eternal damnation.

With friends like that who needs enemies?!?

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Candice Owens said Kirk was her best friend. He was not racist.

A token right wing pro maga black lady. Meaningless. 

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What a totally ignorant thread. Pitiful. Why is it you didn't mention he was ASSASSINATED by a leftist idelogically radicalised trans/furry loving killer.

They cannot acknowledge that - it destroys their virtue signalling narrative about minority and oppressed groups being good, and white christian males being bad. This event, and the radical woke liberal left's response to it has finally exposed to the majority of people what they really are - and that will show in the next US mid-term elections when the Democrats will be decimated.  

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You can read my post and no, that  what what I was saying .

I'll rephrase my post .

If there was  war on, would it then be ok to kill Kirk ?

What a weird question.  War between who, and what side would Kirk be on??

Just now, Jingthing said:

Yes.

You're really are very ignorant about that.

He had a lot of very vile hateful rhetoric towards American Jews calling them cultural Marxists.

He was a FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN.

Yes they are generally very pro right wing Israeli governments.

Why?

Because under their weird belief system of prophesy certain things need to happen with Israeli for this to be the end times with the second coming.

Their ideology continues that all Jews that don't accept the second coming as savior will be damned to eternal damnation.

With friends like that who needs enemies?!?

Calling someone ignorant that sees more of the truth than your one sided rhetoric doesn't work. I've watched a hundred of his videos and never saw any of what you're saying. Post them if you have evidence. 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

A token right wing pro maga black lady. Meaningless. 

You sound racist now.

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Two of his best friends were Shapiro and Owens. Jew and black lady. Not exactly a racist.

I just looked that up.

Kirk and Shapiro were not friends at all.

Just now, Jingthing said:

I just looked that up.

Kirk and Shapiro were not friends at all.

Yes, Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk were friends. Shapiro knew Kirk for 13 years, having first met him when Kirk was 18 years old. He recalled being immediately impressed by Kirk's determination, telling a friend at the time, "That kid is going to be the head of the RNC one day". Over the years, their professional relationship evolved into a friendship, with Shapiro describing Kirk as a "principled man" and a "good man" who stood by his values.

Following Kirk's assassination at a speaking event at Utah Valley University on September 10, 2025, Shapiro expressed profound grief, calling himself "utterly stunned and heartbroken and sick to my soul". He referred to Kirk as his friend and described the killing as "truly horrifying in every possible way".

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Calling someone ignorant that sees more of the truth than your one sided rhetoric doesn't work. I've watched a hundred of his videos and never saw any of what you're saying. Post them if you have evidence. 

Not going to do googling for you but you really are ignorant if you don't know the reason behind Christian fundamentalist support for right wing Israeli governments. So much so that I think you're wasting my time reading and responding to pablum. BYE. 

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

What a weird question.  War between who, and what side would Kirk be on??

 

    Try to follow the discussion .

JT posted this 

 

Of course no political violence is OK with the exception of if you're in an actual war. For example the French resistance killing Nazis was more than acceptable.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not going to do googling for you but you really are ignorant if you don't know the reason behind Christian fundamentalist support for right wing Israeli governments. So much so that I think you're wasting my time reading and responding to pablum. BYE. 

Again, try to see this from the middle and not your hatred for Maga. I know why they support the Israeli government, as this has been going on for a long time. You think Kirk hated Jews. I said otherwise. Don't cherry pick around it. Post the video.

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes.

You're really are very ignorant about that.

He had a lot of very vile hateful rhetoric towards American Jews calling them cultural Marxists.

He was a FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN.

Yes they are generally very pro right wing Israeli governments.

Why?

Because under their weird belief system of prophesy certain things need to happen with Israeli for this to be the end times with the second coming.

Their ideology continues that all Jews that don't accept the second coming as savior will be damned to eternal damnation.

With friends like that who needs enemies?!?

Liar. He calls leftist secular American Jews cultural Marxists.

 

Is that not largely true? 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not going to do googling for you but you really are ignorant if you don't know the reason behind Christian fundamentalist support for right wing Israeli governments. So much so that I think you're wasting my time reading and responding to pablum. BYE. 

Of course 

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not going to do googling for you but you really are ignorant if you don't know the reason behind Christian fundamentalist support for right wing Israeli governments. So much so that I think you're wasting my time reading and responding to pablum. BYE. 

Right wing supports right wing. You support left wing.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Liar. He calls leftist secular American Jews cultural Marxists.

 

Is that not largely true? 

 

 

No.

Calling liberal Jews who are the majority of American Jews cultural Marxists is basically right wing HATE SPEECH.

It's the type of thing that the tiki torch boys at Charlottesville chanting the Jews will not replace us think.

DISGUSTING. 

9 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Yes, Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk were friends. Shapiro knew Kirk for 13 years, having first met him when Kirk was 18 years old. He recalled being immediately impressed by Kirk's determination, telling a friend at the time, "That kid is going to be the head of the RNC one day". Over the years, their professional relationship evolved into a friendship, with Shapiro describing Kirk as a "principled man" and a "good man" who stood by his values.

Following Kirk's assassination at a speaking event at Utah Valley University on September 10, 2025, Shapiro expressed profound grief, calling himself "utterly stunned and heartbroken and sick to my soul". He referred to Kirk as his friend and described the killing as "truly horrifying in every possible way".

AI conclusion --

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Gov. Shapiro's relationship with Charlie Kirk appears to be more professional than personal, characterized by mutual recognition within the political landscape rather than a close friendship.

 

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

AI conclusion --

 

Wrong Shapiro