25 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, I didn't "miss the point." The reason someone provides for their "loved ones" before they die is to make them feel better now. After they die, nothing matters because death is the end of everything. 

Married my Thai GF so that she would get a private "Widows" pension when I died, after all she had done for me providing this were miniscule in comparison.

31 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, I didn't "miss the point." The reason someone provides for their "loved ones" before they die is to make them feel better now. After they die, nothing matters because death is the end of everything. 

Or not.

56 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Of you, yes.

Yeh,riiiiiiiiiiiiight................🤥...............🤭

Death will come soon enough; why talk about it ?  Just get on with living the time you have left and enjoy every day !

9 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

Death will come soon enough; why talk about it ?  Just get on with living the time you have left and enjoy every day !

Agree, but preparing for it never hurts, wills and such.

 

... "Honey, no need to dig the hole now, you can wait till I'm dead.  It's going to full up with water."

I spent the last 13 years of my professional career managing some of the largest funeral homes and cemeteries in Tennessee, USA. During that time, I helped over 3500 families who had lost loved ones to make pre and post death arrangements, and I can't tell you the number of times I sat across from aging men who refused to talk about death. It was always the spouses who took control and insisted that the man make some important decisions regarding their final arrangements so that the wife would not be burdened with such matters at the time of death. Men are most likely to refuse to face their own mortality, and its partly due to superstitious attitudes and ego in that they think they are going to live forever. It has been said that the greatest threat to the health of older men is they think they still live in their teenage bodies and refuse to admit to themselves that their bodies just can't function like they did 50 years ago. 

 

As for me, I spent the first 40 years of my life steeped in sin and debauchery, and I have made it my life's goal to spend the rest of my life reestablishing my reputation as a faithful and honorable man. Even though I am a "born again" Christian and am certain that I have been forgiven by God and will be with HIM in Heaven when I leave this earth, I still feel a strong obligation to take care of my Thai wife and her family and leave behind a legacy that we can all be proud of. It's my way of making amends for all the times in my past when I was unreliable, selfish and untrustworthy. I now live my life in total peace, and I rest easy when I lay my head on my pillow each night. It is my desire that all men turn away from their sin and seek to live a righteous life befitting of those who wish to honor their families and leave them with wonderful memories and not nightmares for the way you treated them in your last days.

On 9/21/2025 at 8:33 AM, BritManToo said:

Almost everyone posting on this forum is over 65, almost everyone I encounter is over 60.

The next major act in all our lives is death, but nobody dares talk about it, and everyone seems to think they've got lots of time left.

 

At 70 I freely admit I'm almost dead, all I have in front of me is increasing aches, pains, odd and more frequent illnesses, my mobility reducing and my body failing.

Is it a form of delusion or fear that stops people thinking about their soon to come death?

Slightly interesting that our differences in orientation extend even to this subject. Five by-passes in 2005 (USA), heart attack 2015 (Chiang Mai). At 78 I might well be justified in your outlook but … feeling fine, happy, still traveling, exploring as time and finances allow. I do suspect I will be living longer as a result of my outlook, living in Thailand and, OK, in large measure as being relieved of stress living and working in USA.

13 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

It is my desire that all men turn away from their sin and seek to live a righteous life ....

Beautiful post and thankyou for your service Sir

 

And I'm doing the same, trying to live without Sin

 

 

1 hour ago, JensenZ said:

Well, you do seem certain that you are correct. So basically, you are living meat, with no other purpose in life other than to live until you die. That's quite depressing. Let's hope you are wrong.

 

 

 

 

He is wrong.

 

Life very much goes on for those remaining and - IMO at least  - we have a responsibility to make adequate provision for those we care about.

 

 

The fact WE come into this world withy nothing and leave with nothing is a fact .......ashes to ashes etc

1 hour ago, trainman34014 said:

Death will come soon enough; why talk about it ?  Just get on with living the time you have left and enjoy every day !

 

 

Another one who, on the face of it, has selfishly missed the point about the reasons for talking about death.

 

 

It's not about you.

1 hour ago, tmd5855 said:

Married my Thai GF so that she would get a private "Widows" pension when I died, after all she had done for me providing this were miniscule in comparison.

 

Good move and very responsible of you. A widow's pension is probably the most valuable 'gift' that we can leave.

 

 

With most pension companies you don't have to be married; I am not married but my pension provider accepted my GF's nomination 15 years ago.

1 hour ago, trainman34014 said:

Death will come soon enough; why talk about it ?  Just get on with living the time you have left and enjoy every day !

As you age, the ability to "enjoy every day" can become challenging at best or near impossible. Most people don't enjoy life until their last day, and suffer terribly long before they finally pass. For many, it can be a welcome release.

On 9/21/2025 at 8:38 AM, Nemises said:

 

At 70 I freely admit that the best chapter of my life has just begun

    That's the attitude.  Me, too.  I'll be 74 in December and I'm still having fun and enjoying life.  Yes, I've noticed a few aches and pains, maybe not quite the energy I used to have, but that's to be expected.  Still try to be as busy as I want, still doing what I like.  Spouse and I are currently actively involved in the planning of our next house build, with the build plans set to be finalized tomorrow.  Hopefully, work can get started the beginning of October.   Should I be building a house at my age?  Why not?   

      Dad lived to 95, Mom to 101.  Partly good genes but, I think, also good attitude and keeping active and interested.   For the OP, maybe less focus on death, less focus on the ages your relatives died at, and more focus on living the life you want to live, regardless of your age number.  

3 hours ago, JensenZ said:

Well, you do seem certain that you are correct. So basically, you are living meat, with no other purpose in life other than to live until you die. That's quite depressing. Let's hope you are wrong.

 

 

You'll never know if I was right or wrong about death, because when you die, there is no you. There is nothing.

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

You'll never know if I was right or wrong about death, because when you die, there is no you. There is nothing.

Or not.

3 hours ago, tmd5855 said:

Married my Thai GF so that she would get a private "Widows" pension when I died, after all she had done for me providing this were miniscule in comparison.

What I'm saying is that makes you feel good now, and that's fine. I do a lot of things like that, including making a will. But I do believe all that is to made up (including me) feel good now. When we die, all that disappears. There is nothing. 

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

What I'm saying is that makes you feel good now, and that's fine. I do a lot of things like that, including making a will. But I do believe all that is to made up (including me) feel good now. When we die, all that disappears. There is nothing. 

Or maybe this is just a short test for some, that those that don't get to enjoy this life, along with the believers, will go on to a place, forever, that puts this one to shame. Remember, if there was no God, there wouldn't be atheists. 

On 9/21/2025 at 8:33 AM, BritManToo said:

Almost everyone posting on this forum is over 65, almost everyone I encounter is over 60.

The next major act in all our lives is death, but nobody dares talk about it, and everyone seems to think they've got lots of time left.

 

At 70 I freely admit I'm almost dead, all I have in front of me is increasing aches, pains, odd and more frequent illnesses, my mobility reducing and my body failing.

Is it a form of delusion or fear that stops people thinking about their soon to come death?

At 77 of course I think about death now and then. But since I don’t believe in any of the so-called Gods humanity has invented I don’t talk much about. I wrote my will and try to live one day at a time. 

If you obsess about death you will be miserable and probably shorten your lifespan.

Just try and enjoy life for as long as you can.

I will live well and also another will already drawn up by a local thia attorney it’s 75 I’ve had a good long ride I wake up in the morning surprised that I’m still around I don’t think I’ve got much longer to live there’s not much I can do about it so I don’t really fear it as much as some people I don’t like to discuss dying or death because I think it freaks most people out but for me when it comes it’s just all part of it TIT 

Stop dwelling on it.  You’re killing yourself mentally.  Enjoy each day - they are a gift.  

On 9/21/2025 at 8:33 AM, BritManToo said:

Almost everyone posting on this forum is over 65, almost everyone I encounter is over 60.

The next major act in all our lives is death, but nobody dares talk about it, and everyone seems to think they've got lots of time left.

 

At 70 I freely admit I'm almost dead, all I have in front of me is increasing aches, pains, odd and more frequent illnesses, my mobility reducing and my body failing.

Is it a form of delusion or fear that stops people thinking about their soon to come death?

Why do you feel the need to dwell on it? Such a waste of the time we have left. Enjoy yourself.

Nobody talks about because it's dead boring or is that necrophilia?

On 9/21/2025 at 8:33 AM, BritManToo said:

Is it a form of delusion or fear that stops people thinking about their soon to come death?

I'm 65.  I contemplate my eventual demise occasionally.  However, I'm a Brit man too (no pun intended) so I have the dignity and good grace to not wish to discuss it openly on a public forum with people I will probably never meet.

Like an earlier responder, my parents are still alive and kicking in their 90's, and they haven't been overly careful about their health and well-being.  It would be a great shame if I didn't make at least my 90's, because I have been mindful of my health and fitness for a long time.  Anyway, when your time's up, that's it.  In the meantime, considered choices mean I have a great quality of life, negligible issues and a lot of satisfaction and contentment.

Life has choices.  Use them wisely.
 

Just now, IsaanT said:

I'm 65.  I contemplate my eventual demise occasionally.  However, I'm a Brit man too (no pun intended) so I have the dignity and good grace to not wish to discuss it openly on a public forum with people I will probably never meet.

Like an earlier responder, my parents are still alive and kicking in their 90's, and they haven't been overly careful about their health and well-being.  It would be a great shame if I didn't make at least my 90's, because I have been mindful of my health and fitness for a long time.  Anyway, when your time's up, that's it.  In the meantime, considered choices mean I have a great quality of life, negligible issues and a lot of satisfaction and contentment.

Life has choices.  Use them wisely.
 

Being careful with you health and fitness doesn't make you live longer, but it does make it seem longer.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Being careful with you health and fitness doesn't make you live longer, but it does make it seem longer.

I think you are rather mixed up, chap..........

Just now, transam said:

I think you are rather mixed up, chap..........

Well at least I can afford my VISA extension.

uh oh...

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Well at least I can afford my VISA extension.

Is that with the help of the fiddle..........?   ............🤭

Just now, BritManToo said:

Being careful with you health and fitness doesn't make you live longer, but it does make it seem longer.

I guess we're different people with different circumstances.  I've been retired in Thailand for three years now and the time has flown by.

A definition of a poor retirement is not having any particular reason or motive to get up in the morning.  I am half-way through building a house I designed, I've just started planting an orchard (aim: 100 fruit trees of many different varieties), I have hundreds of fish to feed (and catch to eat) in my lake, two young boys to get to school in the morning, and a great partner.

I have many reasons to enjoy life.