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Repeated Poisonings Kill Nearly Entire Village’s Dogs in Korat

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2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

And....what is your point!?

My point was a response to a poster who advised keeping all pets locked up within the house yard and I have response that the article referring to feral dogs, Got it now?

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37 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

If your dog doesn't cause a nuisance, it won't be poisoned.

Unless your innocent dog eats poisoned food left out by an evil coward.

29 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

From the many threads on dogs I'm reading many foreigners see dogs as vermin. 

You're clearly biased, read the articles I've attached, foreigners fed up with dogs riding their bicycles etc, also foreigners wanting to hit dogs with gold clubs. 

 

 

YeahI know I never said otherwise. Many people are totally sick and tired of the dog problem and every so often one of them snaps.

24 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

A few foreigners that dislike dogs isn't much proof. I see, almost daily, locals kicking at dogs that aren't even bothering them, along with those that are.

 

2 days ago I stopped at a restaurant to get out of a big rain storm that just rolled in. I was talking with the woman and her little boy (maybe 7 or so) until a pickup with 3 dogs showed up. The guys lets the dogs out and they walk in the restaurant (they're soaking wet because of the rain which is lovely).

 

Anyways I have that little dog with me (in the profile photo) and the boy he tells me the other dogs are mean and I need to be careful. When the big dogs come near he starts to kick and slap them. The dogs clearly weren't aggressive or anything and later I was petting them no problem but what's up with the boy? Obviously his parents taught him that and no one said anything to him.

 

Where I come from in America hitting dogs like that is not ok and people are going to get upset but it seemed totally normal for him.

3 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

2 days ago I stopped at a restaurant to get out of a big rain storm that just rolled in. I was talking with the woman and her little boy (maybe 7 or so) until a pickup with 3 dogs showed up. The guys lets the dogs out and they walk in the restaurant (they're soaking wet because of the rain which is lovely).

 

Anyways I have that little dog with me (in the profile photo) and the boy he tells me the other dogs are mean and I need to be careful. When the big dogs come near he starts to kick and slap them. The dogs clearly weren't aggressive or anything and later I was petting them no problem but what's up with the boy? Obviously his parents taught him that and no one said anything to him.

 

Where I come from in America hitting dogs like that is not ok and people are going to get upset but it seemed totally normal for him.

I've seen so many instances of children hitting animals it's ridiculous. I had to tell my daughter a few times not to push down on the dogs we have here as her grandma has always done this, and she's seen her do it. She pushes down on the head or neck against the ground. It's a sort of control, abuse, towards the animals and her other adult children act the same way. I have also seen many children kicking at or throwing things at dogs that aren't doing anything wrong. Yes, they learn this from their parents.

6 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This means they were running wild in the village. I imagine NONE of these animals would have suffered had they been under proper control.

TIT. People's dogs roam. Doesn't make them all soi dogs. I'm not saying that the dogs aren't a problem but mass poisionings by an individual/individuals is not on.

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

TIT. People's dogs roam. Doesn't make them all soi dogs. I'm not saying that the dogs aren't a problem but mass poisionings by an individual/individuals is not on.

In civilized countries dogs don't roam. I'm not suggesting that Thailand change, it's their country. Just don't clutch your pearls, gnash your teeth and wail at the sky when someone handles a dangerous situation in an uncivilised manner.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Take your personal hate out of the picture and what do you have? There's a reason you hate dogs, and millions look at them as companions, saviors protectors and those who help the disabled. Dogs are great animals, and are a major reason people with depression go on everyday. They have hurt many, mostly because of morons who don't train them properly, but they have saved many more in a number of situations.

 

Typical, you disagree with somebody so they must be 'haters' lol

8 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Typical, you disagree with somebody so they must be 'haters' lol

No, people don't wantonly kill dogs unless they hate or are unstable individuals. Like I said, you can hate anything you'd like, and this always comes from childhood, as most people are fine with dogs as long as they're not attacking others.

 

A couple of bad experiences shouldn't turn a person off a domestic animal that has done far more good than bad. I've been bitten twice, and it was dogs who were protecting their environment, and I hold nothing against them as they didn't know any better.

 

Most dogs properly trained are fine with other people. Some go after people when they feel they or their owners are being threatened, which isn't a bad thing.

 

You have shown your hatred towards dogs many times here, so that's what I'm basing my comment on. If you would have said you didn't like the soi dog problem because they cause trouble , and not that all dogs should be killed, are dirty, disgusting, smelly animals with no purpose, I wouldn't have said hater.

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

My point was a response to a poster who advised keeping all pets locked up within the house yard and I have response that the article referring to feral dogs, Got it now?

Dogs keeping inside could be feral dogs as well. Got it?

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2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Dogs keeping inside could be feral dogs as well. Got it?

the definition of feral dogs are dogs who roam the streets freely and not in an enclosure, Google it. 

18 minutes ago, ezzra said:

the definition of feral dogs are dogs who roam the streets freely and not in an enclosure, Google it. 

Nonsense. Google it

38 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, people don't wantonly kill dogs unless they hate or are unstable individuals. Like I said, you can hate anything you'd like, and this always comes from childhood, as most people are fine with dogs as long as they're not attacking others.

 

A couple of bad experiences shouldn't turn a person off a domestic animal that has done far more good than bad. I've been bitten twice, and it was dogs who were protecting their environment, and I hold nothing against them as they didn't know any better.

 

Most dogs properly trained are fine with other people. Some go after people when they feel they or their owners are being threatened, which isn't a bad thing.

 

You have shown your hatred towards dogs many times here, so that's what I'm basing my comment on. If you would have said you didn't like the soi dog problem because they cause trouble , and not that all dogs should be killed, are dirty, disgusting, smelly animals with no purpose, I wouldn't have said hater.

 

So by this logic people eating animals 'hate' them. This is NOT about domestic fleabags it's about pest stays being poisoned, it not about training or bad owners it's about the soi dog problem. The solutions and objections have nothing to do with your hate accusation, the answer is in exterminating them on mass. Bet you are another 'animal lover' who eats them, you must hate those little helpless piggies then 😆

20 minutes ago, proton said:

 

So by this logic people eating animals 'hate' them. This is NOT about domestic fleabags it's about pest stays being poisoned, it not about training or bad owners it's about the soi dog problem. The solutions and objections have nothing to do with your hate accusation, the answer is in exterminating them on mass. Bet you are another 'animal lover' who eats them, you must hate those little helpless piggies then 😆

People who eat animals like how they taste. Not much like an almost medium done Sirloin, Ribeye, Porterhouse, or T- Bone. A  Grilled Chicken, Wagyu Burger with Swiss, Cheddar or Monterey Jack, Texas BBQ, Grilled Swordfish , Blackened Snapper, Tuna Sushi, New York or Chicago Hot Dog, or Smoked Ribs with BBQ sauce. Dog doesn't fit on that menu, nor does cat.

 

Everyone knows about the Soi Dog problem, but there is, again, only one humane solution, and that's a stepped up spay/neuter program, along with education, forced microchipping, fines for violations, putting down attacking animals and other solutions.

 

Like i said, it's you that has said many hateful things about dogs in general, along with a couple of others here, and that's why I listed the hate term. You obviously hate, dislike or are put off by dogs in general, as you've stated this many times in many topics about dogs.

 

You don't exterminate because some dogs are causing problems. They can't stop being dogs, just as some can't stop being themselves, so the only solution is having others take charge, as the people here aren't going to.All dogs aren't fleabags. Just those who aren't taken care of and let to roam get parasites.

 

Yes, I'm an animal lover and a hunter, which some just can't understand, but that's okay, as my and other's dollars are some of the few that goes into actually helping animals survive. I don't hate everyone because some rape, molest, kill or destroy. Only those involved in it. 

25 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Nonsense. Google it

Feral means in the wild, roaming loose without ownership. Dogs kept in an enclosure can be wild, as in actions,  but they aren't feral. Domestic gone wild is also feral.

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Feral means in the wild, roaming loose without ownership. Dogs kept in an enclosure can be wild, as in actions,  but they aren't feral. Domestic gone wild is also feral.

Exactly. Thanks. That's what my Google told me too. 

@ezzra apparently used his own personal Google.🤩

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

 

 

He should be given a medal for public service and given a grant to carry on, the only good soi dog is a dead one

 

👎

 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Exactly. Thanks. That's what my Google told me too. 

@ezzra apparently used his own personal Google.🤩

This is what he said.............".the definition of feral dogs are dogs who roam the streets freely and not in an enclosure"..................Isn't that the same?

24 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

This is what he said.............".the definition of feral dogs are dogs who roam the streets freely and not in an enclosure"..................Isn't that the same?

Not really. In short: ferals could be inside and outside of properties.

Period

We have 4 dogs.

 

They are not a nuisance to anyone because they are locked indoors overnight and never left outside at night.

 

About a kilometer away are dogs kept outside.  It’s not unusual for them to bark overnight and that sets the dogs at the temple barking.  It’s far enough away that it doesn’t bother us.

 

We rented a house many years ago whilst we built one.  A neighbor kept his dogs outside, and they barked often at night.

 

We dealt with it but staying up a couple of nights and every time they started barking we went and banged on his door and woke him up to tell him his dogs were barking and we couldn’t sleep.  
 

He got rid of his dogs after a couple of nights of that.

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Not really. In short: ferals could be inside and outside of properties.

Period

Feral means either gone wild or is wild, meaning living outdoors. I've hunted many times and seen feral dogs in a few states. Dogs no one owned that ran deer down, along with other animals, to survive. The same happens here, with millions of dogs breeding and running loose, all because the original dogs were not spayed or neutered, which was on the owners. 

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

We have 4 dogs.

 

They are not a nuisance to anyone because they are locked indoors overnight and never left outside at night.

 

About a kilometer away are dogs kept outside.  It’s not unusual for them to bark overnight and that sets the dogs at the temple barking.  It’s far enough away that it doesn’t bother us.

 

We rented a house many years ago whilst we built one.  A neighbor kept his dogs outside, and they barked often at night.

 

We dealt with it but staying up a couple of nights and every time they started barking we went and banged on his door and woke him up to tell him his dogs were barking and we couldn’t sleep.  
 

He got rid of his dogs after a couple of nights of that.

The dogs that think my house is home, bark at night whenever someone or another dog comes close to the house. It is annoying, but I yell at them whenever i can, when it's just a dog or a person walking past the house. Dogs will learn if you teach them over time, but it has to be consistent, something which doesn't happen much here. It's a good thing the dogs bark when anyone comes near, but it's a fine line between just passing the property and entering it, which isn't something anyone wants. 

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

In civilized countries dogs don't roam. I'm not suggesting that Thailand change, it's their country. Just don't clutch your pearls, gnash your teeth and wail at the sky when someone handles a dangerous situation in an uncivilised manner.

that's how I see it too. I just wish Thai people could be behave respectfully towards their neighbors and manage their dogs. If they did that this would be a none issue, no dogs or people harmed.

 

It's a textbook example of what happens when you neglect your society and don't deal with your problems.

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1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The dogs that think my house is home, bark at night whenever someone or another dog comes close to the house. It is annoying, but I yell at them whenever i can, when it's just a dog or a person walking past the house. Dogs will learn if you teach them over time, but it has to be consistent, something which doesn't happen much here. It's a good thing the dogs bark when anyone comes near, but it's a fine line between just passing the property and entering it, which isn't something anyone wants. 


The problem with dogs is that they will bark when another dog barks.

 

A dog barking should wake the owner BEFORE it disturbs any neighbors.

 

Dogs MUST be kept indoors overnight if you have any neighbours.

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:


The problem with dogs is that they will bark when another dog barks.

 

A dog barking should wake the owner BEFORE it disturbs any neighbors.

 

Dogs MUST be kept indoors overnight if you have any neighbours.

That's what RESPONSIBLE dog owners do.

I always stay in a condo at least 10 floors up. Between the distance and the aircon, I can't hear those beasts owned by slackers who couldn't care less about their neighbors.

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

My point was a response to a poster who advised keeping all pets locked up within the house yard and I have response that the article referring to feral dogs, Got it now?


You can report problem feral dogs at the Tessaban and they will catch and remove them.

10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:


The problem with dogs is that they will bark when another dog barks.

 

A dog barking should wake the owner BEFORE it disturbs any neighbors.

 

Dogs MUST be kept indoors overnight if you have any neighbours.

True, but no one here keeps their dogs inside. Even the ones I see treating their dogs well don't. I'm away from all the villagers besides one here, who lives 200 meters away, and his dogs spend most of their time here. The people who live in the village are the ones I'm referring to. My ex's mom's house has a few dogs who are kept outside, as well as all of the neighbors. I think some just aren't too bothered by dogs barking, but we never know unless they talk about it. 

4 hours ago, proton said:

 

Does not stop Thais killing animals and eating them does it. 

That was the argument which finished off my marriage in Chiang Rai. 

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