£ 12 ?!??!?!!

Even Indians couldn't bargain to get it that cheap

11 hours ago, Gknrd said:

I was living in Thailand for years before I ever even visited Pattaya. After a couple of hours I was ready to leave. I much preferred the far north. I got spoiled luckily early on. Kinda curious if all those places still in the north after over 20 years. Think I will do a nostalgic trek, just for grins.

You must have missed quite a bit if you were only here 'a couple of hours'. Pattaya is quite large with a lot to see and do. Nong Nooch Gardens alone would take about that long, or more. You'd be out of time so you'd have to skip a nice seafood lunch or dinner at one of the many beachside restaurants. And, no time to stop at the spectacular Nitan coffee shop for a cup of coffee and one of their desserts.

With only two hours, no time for an overnight stay at one of Pattaya's nice hotels--Amari, Dusit, Holiday Inn, Mitt, Hilton, Hard Rock, D'Beach, Cape Dara, Centara Grand Resort, and the several new Centre Point Resorts, among others.

And, no time for a private boat trip to one of the islands, complete with snorkeling, and then a wonderful catered seafood lunch on board the boat to top it off--I have fond memories of all the boat trips I have taken with family--sorry you likely missed that experience, too. And, many others Pattaya has on offer, including the aquarium, elephant sanctuaries, golf courses, water parks, the Columbia Pictures amusement park, etc., etc.

13 hours ago, Hummin said:

Cheap sex tourists will need to move on. Cambodia?

Move the sex trade to Cambodia? You serious?

So you're concerned about the women in the sex trade in Thailand, but not Cambodia? Or just because it would be more convenient for you?

Or ... you lost me man.

14 hours ago, Hummin said:

I understand many here value the red light districts, but most people do not. My guess Pattaya would do great without the majority of bar mongers and sex tourists.

There are literally thousands of bars.

Men still congregate in pubs when women are not around, but I doubt the bars would be occupied anywhere near to that extent without women in there keeping men company. At least half the bars would need to be shut down.

1 hour ago, newnative said:

And, many others Pattaya has on offer, including the aquarium, elephant sanctuaries, golf courses, water parks, the Columbia Pictures amusement park, etc., etc.

But you don't know how well those attractions are doing.

There was one attraction called "Harborland" which is a children's amusement park that is showing as "temporarily closed" on Google Maps. I went in once and it was empty and it's a massive space with massive retail overhead.

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Choice for the girls : Spend all night in a bar hoping someone buys you a few drinks to make few 100 Baht or get on with your life doing other things and visit a online customer for a few 1000 baht when required

Friends of mine who are single and tell me that the whole thing has gone online.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

There are literally thousands of bars.

Men still congregate in pubs when women are not around, but I doubt the bars would be occupied anywhere near to that extent without women in there keeping men company. At least half the bars would need to be shut down.

The sex industry is there already, and no need to move anything.

The responsibility is each and one person who choose to take part in the sex industry and nothing you should put on my shoulder.

There is girls who choose themselves to become sex workers, but many is abused and broken down bofore become trafficked from very young.

All I'm saying, Spain used to a big whore house, now not so visual in the tourist areas as it used to be, but still there. There have been a long term goal to turn Pattaya into a more family destination by the politicians, and one day they will succeed.

Seems you just F around and taking a P out of my posts for some reasons, or just do not understand what I'm trying to explain to you.

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But you don't know how well those attractions are doing.

There was one attraction called "Harborland" which is a children's amusement park that is showing as "temporarily closed" on Google Maps. I went in once and it was empty and it's a massive space with massive retail overhead.

Well, I do know that Centre Point built their first Pattaya property, Grand Centre Point, on top of T21. It must have been successful because, right across the street, they built the massive Centre Point Space Resort. It must have been successful because they are now building the even bigger Centre Point 3 Resort. If Grand Centre Point had been a bust, likely the other two would have been shelved.

Centara Resort also must be doing ok, otherwise they would have closed it down by now and would not have spent big to give it an extensive makeover recently--perhaps to keep competitive with Centre Point Space just down the street.

Amari must also be doing ok because they built the large family wing addition--families were demanding family-type accommodation from them and they obliged. Ditto for D'Beach Hotel, which built a huge highrise extension in back of the original hotel.

I can't think of any big attractions, hotels, resorts, etc., that have closed down for lack of business, although there likely are some. Quite a lot of old, tacky retail has closed as the land has been redeveloped--T21 was built on just such an old property. An old bowling alley building in north Pattaya, with some other tired retail in it, was leveled sometime ago and now is slated to be a super-luxury condo project. All over town you can see old being replaced with new and better--Pattaya Second Road from Festival to T21 is a good example--lots of new businesses along there.

That doesn't mean everything is a success, which brings us to your "Harborland" example. Harborland was actually a component of Harbor Mall, which had Harborland as one of its upper floor features. Harborland, I believe, has since moved to T21. It did not work at Harbor Mall for a variety of reasons, but mainly location, I think. The children's component needed more tourist children--who aren't in that non-tourist location. They are down at the beach at Centre Point Space, Amari, Centara, Holiday Inn, A01, D'Beach, Cape Dara, etc.

Another Harbor Mall component was supposed to be a replacement for Tukcom--but Tukcom didn't roll over and die, so that didn't work either. Tukcom's customers did not migrate to Harbor Mall, at least not in enough numbers to keep the tech stores open.

One of the major anchor stores at Harbor was a grocery store--but there is a bigger, well-established grocery store right next door, which soon put Harbor Mall's grocery store out of business. And so on.

Businesses open with fanfare. Some work, some don't. Just the way it is. And, not just in Pattaya but everywhere.

No value posts binned.

On 2/13/2026 at 4:31 PM, Hummin said:

many do not visit Pattaya because of its reputation

No, they say they go Jomtien. 🤭

Just now, PoorSucker said:

No, they say they go Jomtien. 🤭

It used to be a more quiet option

Girlfriends selling for £12 ? I think a zero is missing.

On 2/13/2026 at 4:03 PM, kwilco said:

It's lasted over 60 years.

But prostitution is much older and more established in Thailand than the tourist sex trade. It is a pillar of Thai culture.

I was told by educated phuket Thais that prostitution started in the 1700s. Brought on by Chinese immigrants who made a huge success of tin mining. A friends family can go back to 1800 , which is why there are so many rich Thais around today. This friend owned a lot of seafront land which he sold in the 80s to well known hotels.

58 minutes ago, geisha said:

I was told by educated phuket Thais that prostitution started in the 1700s. Brought on by Chinese immigrants who made a huge success of tin mining. A friends family can go back to 1800 , which is why there are so many rich Thais around today. This friend owned a lot of seafront land which he sold in the 80s to well known hotels.

The idea that prostitution in Thailand “started in the 1700s” because of Chinese tin miners is historically inaccurate.

Chinese migration to what is now Thailand took place in waves from the 13th through the 20th century, with major influxes after the fall of the Ayutthaya Kingdom in 1767 and during the 19th-century economic boom. Today perhaps 25–30% of Thais have some Chinese ancestry. That reflects long-standing integration, not the introduction of vice by one group at a single moment in time.

Commercial sex existed in Siam long before the 1700s. Like most pre-modern societies, it had systems of concubinage, slavery and bonded labour. Slavery itself was not fully abolished until the early 20th century. Prostitution did not suddenly appear with tin mining — what changed over time was its scale and commercial organisation, usually in response to economic opportunity.

Phuket’s tin wealth certainly created powerful Chinese-Thai families, and some accumulated coastal land. But historic land “ownership” in Thailand was often informal, poorly surveyed and influenced by local power structures. That’s a separate and complicated issue.

Blaming prostitution on Chinese immigrants oversimplifies Thai history. The industry expanded at various points — for example during the Vietnam War era when US forces created new demand — but it was never imported wholesale by one ethnic group.

Thailand has long had a pragmatic, if sometimes contradictory, attitude toward commercial sex. Karaoke venues, massage shops and short-stay hotels are visible parts of the urban landscape. That reflects social, economic and gender dynamics within Thai society itself—not something that was simply “brought in” from outside.

In short: prostitution in Thailand evolved over centuries within Thailand’s own social structure. It wasn’t invented in the 1700s, and it wasn’t introduced by one community.

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Friends of mine who are single and tell me that the whole thing has gone online.

No, there are thousands of bars.

Because most men are not just looking for sex.

A bar is like going out with your girlfriend.

Except it's fake. The girl won't laugh at your jokes unless you buy drinks.

But then again, when you go clubbing in a normal club, you're still expected to pay for drinks, but the girl might turn you down after chatting with you for 15 minutes.

Or maybe not "fake", but it's a "simulation". Like a VR game.

On 2/14/2026 at 1:24 PM, klauskunkel said:

That's also the name of a juice brand in a carton, just sayin'

Well, I think 'Malee' is not the correct word! Try with a g........

As this is so very new, this should sail under "fast breaking news".

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

No, there are thousands of bars.

Because most men are not just looking for sex.

A bar is like going out with your girlfriend.

Except it's fake. The girl won't laugh at your jokes unless you buy drinks.

But then again, when you go clubbing in a normal club, you're still expected to pay for drinks, but the girl might turn you down after chatting with you for 15 minutes.

Or maybe not "fake", but it's a "simulation". Like a VR game.

I forgot to include the part about the woman being young, pretty, slim and fun. Harder to find that at the bars these days.

If Thai authorities ever decide to truly crack down on crack down in Pattaya, Beach Road is where they'll start. All the African prostitutes, like 100%, are trafficked and it's always positive to take action against trafficking.

Thai authorities already have both the legal framework and enforcement resources to shut down prostitution within a week in Pattaya's bars, brothels, massage parlors and gentlemen's clubs as well as on the street. I think we all understand why they don't.

It's right for the Thai authorities not to show any tolerance for trafficked prositutes. That's an encouraging sign.

Pattaya Police and Immigration Officers Crack Down on Suspected Prostitution Along Beachfront, 20 Mostly Foreign Women Arrested

The soliciting on Beach Road is "cracked down" on regularly. Foreigners can be deported, but the Thais can only be fined and then released. The fine is minimal anyway.

The girls working in bars and gogos and who "go" with customers are not committing any offence (nor are their customers), as long as sexual services are not provided on site.

On 2/13/2026 at 9:24 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Personally I think it's disgusting these elderly man with women young enough to be their granddaughters

Perhaps these women are their granddaughters?

On 2/13/2026 at 4:04 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Some may be offended at that statement

I know I am

Reality is offensive sometimes

It's not the girls that are the problem; it's the customers.

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On 2/15/2026 at 2:27 PM, Hummin said:

Seems you just F around and taking a P out of my posts for some reasons, or just do not understand what I'm trying to explain to you.

I understand, I just don't necessarily agree.

Nor do I think everyone who wants to shut down the sex trade has entirely altruistic reasons for doing so.

There is just another story about an American guy messing around with a married woman, then stalking her and getting killed. This sort of stuff only happens in relationships, love triangles. It doesn't happen in the sex trade and it's one argument in favor of the sex trade.

By the way, your nonsense about "Proper men live in Hua Hin, not Pattaya". I actually met a guy coming back from Europe to go see his wife in Hua Hin. And guess what? He stopped off in Pattaya a few days before going back to his wife. LOL.

25 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I understand, I just don't necessarily agree.

Nor do I think everyone who wants to shut down the sex trade has entirely altruistic reasons for doing so.

There is just another story about an American guy messing around with a married woman, then stalking her and getting killed. This sort of stuff only happens in relationships, love triangles. It doesn't happen in the sex trade and it's one argument in favor of the sex trade.

By the way, your nonsense about "Proper men live in Hua Hin, not Pattaya". I actually met a guy coming back from Europe to go see his wife in Hua Hin. And guess what? He stopped off in Pattaya a few days before going back to his wife. LOL.

Where did I state that proper men lives in Hua Hin? There is nightlife and red light districts there to :D

Again, prostitution will not be shut down in pattaya, but they do working for a better reputation, and it doesnt mean soi 6 will dissapear, it means the cheap tourism maybe one day finds other places to go? Cambodia ?

On 2/16/2026 at 6:58 AM, Evil Penevil said:

If Thai authorities ever decide to truly crack down on crack down in Pattaya, Beach Road is where they'll start. All the African prostitutes, like 100%, are trafficked and it's always positive to take action against trafficking.

Thai authorities already have both the legal framework and enforcement resources to shut down prostitution within a week in Pattaya's bars, brothels, massage parlors and gentlemen's clubs as well as on the street. I think we all understand why they don't.

It's right for the Thai authorities not to show any tolerance for trafficked prositutes. That's an encouraging sign.

Pattaya Police and Immigration Officers Crack Down on Suspected Prostitution Along Beachfront, 20 Mostly Foreign Women Arrested

I saw the police unload around 20 + girls at the soi 5 police station in Jomtien a while back. What on earth do they do with them all ? I doubt they’d be locked up , there would be hundreds . Let loose with a fine ? Deported, with what money ?

There must be thousands in Bangkok alone.

On 2/15/2026 at 8:13 AM, DonniePeverley said:

£ 12 ?!??!?!!

Even Indians couldn't bargain to get it that cheap

so you pay more ? why? driving up prices and spoiling things for everybody else

On 2/13/2026 at 6:07 PM, CharlieH said:

often described as "the biggest brothel in the world."

You allow young Thai males to impregnate girls without repocussions, you'll get prostitution.

It's a no brainier.

Make the males responsible for their actions, garnish wages, put in place a welfare system, social security, etc. prostitution will be reduced.

Some weirdos here think most of these young girls selling their bodies enjoy their occupation.

CREEPS