2 hours ago, Purdey said:

A message from the President.

Today, by my order, Ayatoollah Kumonme has been killed in Iraq or Iran - one of those. He was a rat, a dirty rat, but a great friend, to the oil industry, for which I will be taking those resources as payment for the bombs we paid for. This is a warning to others who ignored our orders to cease and desist, like India, Pakistan and North Korea. We will be in and out of Iran and before you know it, we will be oil rich.

Thank you.

Thai GF asked me if Thailand is next.

39 minutes ago, connda said:

Can you imagine if non-Western aggressor nations begin to murder Western religious leaders?

Pope Francis, Leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

Patriarch Bartholomew I, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople.

Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury United Kingdom.

Bishop Michael Curry, Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church.

Russell M. Nelson, President of the Church of Latter Day Saints.

Dalai Lama Spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism

That reciprocal justice isn't something anyone would wish to let out of Pandora's Box, yet here is Trump and Israel stoking the flames.
There is a very discernible anti-Islamic movement in Western nations, and the followers of those movements are now dancing in the streets in celebration.
So now what if Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Kalman Ber or Sephardi Chief Rabbi David Yosef become targets of retribution - an eye for an eye.
My guess is that the people dancing in the streets to the death of Islamic leaders would call the martyrdom of Israel's chief Rabbis an act of evil. And yet they engage in that behavior.

Targeting religious leaders is a can of worms best left unopened, and yet - Trump and Netanyahu opened that can. Let the chips fall where they may.

They don't run countries.

I think its time to part our separate ways and ignore you for obvious deflection ,the topic is ByeAtollah ,not catching Epstein people.

BaBye

21 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not so good in catching people in the Epstein files though.

22 minutes ago, connda said:

Your failing to grasp the big picture as well as the historic arc of empirical regimes like the US, once a Republic, but no more.

The US is too big to fail. Iran will improve. Of course it's about oil but a new leader brings hope.

If this holds up it would be another remarkable achievement over fighting religious fanatics state sponsored terror.

16 minutes ago, riclag said:

I think its time to part our separate ways and ignore you for obvious deflection ,the topic is ByeAtollah ,not catching Epstein people.

BaBye

Trump started this war to deflect from Epstein.

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

How naive, this is the start of the fall of the US empire and Israel will be eradicated in a few years.

Did you support the war on Iraq? Did that end well for the US?

You must have lost your marbles. Israel is much stronger than your terrorist pals.

Former Trump loyalist Marjorie Taylor Greene has issued a brutal takedown of the president’s Iran strike, accusing him of lying to MAGA, abandoning his principles and gaslighting Americans.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Flays Warmongering Trump and JD Vance in Epic Takedown

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Trump started this war to deflect from Epstein.

If Epstein was muslim he would be a prophet.

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

Former Trump loyalist Marjorie Taylor Greene has issued a brutal takedown of the president’s Iran strike, accusing him of lying to MAGA, abandoning his principles and gaslighting Americans.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Flays Warmongering Trump and JD Vance in Epic Takedown

Nobody cares but you.

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What isn't clear yet is how many of the senior leadership including the "four successors" have been taken out. As for the IRGC this is the key. Without the support of the IRGC the regime topples. Which way the IRGC goes is as of now speculation.

What isn’t clear yet is trumps epic Epstein war that’s apparently setting the entire Middle East aflame is going to lead to…..of course the dream would be a more egalitarian type of government without the religious interference.lets give it a few days to see how this latest unessary war plays out.As we all know it’s easy to start one but not so easy to stop.

7 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Nobody cares but you.

yes well, some call this dialog but that could be a problem for you I see

13 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Nobody cares but you.

Spoke a bit too soon LOL

Democrats and a few Republicans say they'll force a vote to limit Trump in Iran

7 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Too late boy. Off you go to N Korea.

Half of Senator Cotton interview was about the Ayotola learning the hard way and the other half was about the Trump haters response to retaliation thats been brewing for 47 years.

Cotton is on the gang of eight ,he gave a thumbs up.

38 minutes ago, riclag said:

If this holds up it would be another remarkable achievement over fighting religious fanatics state sponsored terror.

Has anyone seen any report from a credible news source that contradicts Centcom's denials of U.S. casualties due to Iranian missiles?

2 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Has anyone seen any report from a credible news source that contradicts Centcom's denials of U.S. casualties due to Iranian missiles?

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps pledges revenge and says it has launched attacks on 27 bases hosting US troops in the Middle East, as well as Israeli military facilities in Tel Aviv. Explosions continue to be heard in Qatar and the UAE.

Source: Al Jazeera

Nothing found so far. But if Iran can keep up the pace there will be sooner or later.

6 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps pledges revenge and says it has launched attacks on 27 bases hosting US troops in the Middle East, as well as Israeli military facilities in Tel Aviv. Explosions continue to be heard in Qatar and the UAE.

Source: Al Jazeera

Nothing found so far. But if Iran can keep up the pace there will be sooner or later.

Been quiet in Israel for a couple of hours now. There's no way Iran can outlast the US and Israel.

13 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Been quiet in Israel for a couple of hours now. There's no way Iran can outlast the US and Israel.

You should be careful with such predictions. Israels Iron Dome doesen't work 100% either.

It's only a question of time... And Iran is far away from being finished off.

I spoke too soon about Israel being quiet for a couple of hours.

https://www.tzevaadom.co.il/en/

Too late to vote on anything. Didn't vote on boat strikes in the Caribbean. Didn't vote on regime change in Venezuela. Didn't vote on regime change in Iran. Didn't vote on taking over Cuba--friendly or otherwise. Apparently voted to send 13B to Taiwan in US arms purchases. Congress has no guardrails for Trump and his loyalists.

MAGA rebels shred 'America Last' Trump as vote on Iran strikes looms

17 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Been quiet in Israel for a couple of hours now. There's no way Iran can outlast the US and Israel.

The international leftist are showing their anticipated outrage over the news that their hope that the state sponsor of terror would be able to coordinate a response against strength ,tactical superiority and the will of good over evil is expected.

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I spoke too soon about Israel being quiet for a couple of hours.

https://www.tzevaadom.co.il/en/

that did not age too well

Been quiet in Israel for a couple of hours now.

lol

You're the elected the death counter

44 minutes ago, riclag said:

Half of Senator Cotton interview was about the Ayotola learning the hard way and the other half was about the Trump haters response to retaliation thats been brewing for 47 years.

Cotton is on the gang of eight ,he gave a thumbs up.

Hannity to the Senator : "the commander & chief is Trump, you can't have 535 commanders & chiefs"

From a very worthy editorial in the New York Times.

In his 2024 presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised voters that he would end wars, not start them. Over the past year, he has instead ordered military strikes in seven nations. His appetite for military intervention grows with the eating.

Now he has ordered a new attack against the Islamic Republic of Iran, in cooperation with Israel, and it is much more extensive than the targeted bombing of nuclear facilities in June. Yet he started this war without explaining to the American people and the world why he was doing so. Nor has he involved Congress, which the Constitution grants the sole power to declare war. He instead posted a video at 2:30 a.m. Eastern on Saturday, shortly after bombing began, in which he said that Iran presented “imminent threats” and called for the overthrow of its government. His rationale is dubious, and making his case by video in the middle of the night is unacceptable.

Among his justifications is the elimination of Iran’s nuclear program, which is a worthy goal. But Mr. Trump declared that program “obliterated” by the strike in June, a claim belied by both U.S. intelligence and this new attack. The contradiction underscores how little regard he has for his duty to tell the truth when committing American armed forces to battle. It also shows how little faith American citizens should place in his assurances about the goals and results of his growing list of military adventures.

Mr. Trump’s approach to Iran is reckless. His goals are ill-defined. He has failed to line up the international and domestic support that would be necessary to maximize the chances of a successful outcome. He has disregarded both domestic and international law for warfare.

The Iranian regime, to be clear, deserves no sympathy. Nobody should mourn the death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, who was reportedly killed in the attack.

A responsible American president could make a plausible argument for further action against Iran. The core of this argument would need to be a clear explanation of the strategy, as well as the justification for attacking now, even though Iran does not appear close to having a nuclear weapon. This strategy would involve a promise to seek approval from Congress and to collaborate with international allies.

Mr. Trump is not even attempting this approach. He is telling the American people and the world that he expects their blind trust. He has not earned that trust. He has failed to live up to his own promises for solving other crises in Ukraine, Gaza and Venezuela. He has fired senior military leaders for failing to show fealty to his political whims. When his appointees make outrageous mistakes — such as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth sharing advanced details of a military attack on the Houthis, an Iranian-backed group, on an unsecured group chat — Mr. Trump shields them from accountability.

Mr. Trump’s failure to articulate a strategy for this attack has created shocking levels of uncertainty about it. The attack has succeeded in killing a brutal dictator, but it remains unclear what comes next. Mr. Trump has offered no sense of why the world should expect this regime change to end better than the versions in Iraq and Afghanistan at the start of this century. Those wars toppled governments but understandably soured the American public on open-ended military operations of uncertain national interest, and they embittered the troops who loyally served in them.

We lament that Mr. Trump is not treating war as the grave matter that it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/opinion/iran-attack-trump-war.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What isn't clear yet is how many of the senior leadership including the "four successors" have been taken out. As for the IRGC this is the key. Without the support of the IRGC the regime topples. Which way the IRGC goes is as of now speculation.

IRGC control business in Iran so can't see them giving up power. What's the likelihood of a civil arw?

Nothing to do with nuclear enrichment or regime change. It’s all about the oil and cutting off China’s supplies.

6 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

that did not age too well

Been quiet in Israel for a couple of hours now.

lol

You're the elected the death counter

When I posted it had indeed been quiet in Israel for a couple of hours. I was stating a matter of fact. Iran has lots of missiles but they now have a lot less and a lot less launching sites/platforms which were already depleted in the 12 day war. This is also a matter of fact.

1 minute ago, phetphet said:

Nothing to do with nuclear enrichment or regime change. It’s all about the oil and cutting off China’s supplies.

Agree to an extent but this takes regime change.

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

IRGC control business in Iran so can't see them giving up power. What's the likelihood of a civil arw?

Huge issue with regime change, as Libya & Iraq are fine examples of. Syria hasn't self imploded yet. Egypt may be worse now without Mubarak, and heavy handed ruling since, and he'll be in power for a few more years, at least.

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Agree to an extent but this takes regime change.

There will be no regime change as long no israeli or u.s. boots are on the ground in Iran.

That‘s just the way it is.