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I would offer to train officers:)

that would not take long i think 100 baht back handers is the going rate

You think incorrectly.

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I definitely wouldn't fight for Thailand, and would treat their offer of citizenship with the disdain it deserves.

I have already saved the life of two Thais by paying hundreds of thousands in hospital bills, am raising two and supporting others.

They should probably consider me a national hero, but alas....

Good comment, most of us here have done alot for Thailand (in our own little ways)

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There was a time I would have given an emphatic yes, but after spending serious time here and coming to realise people don't really give a flying one about you (most notably Imm and those in power), I'd have to say an emphatic no. On the other hand, if China were trying it on and the Thais offered visa/land perks etc, then I'd think about it. Some political shenanigan and aggression toward Cam, not a chance.

Anyway, it's not like they'd ever request help; that'd be loss of face. Yawn!

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The real question is what are we fighting for?

For an elite of a hundred upper class family who exploits this country ?

Does not make much difference if they suddenly become Cambodian or Vietnamese ...

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No, probably they would nt give a work permit to be a soilder! defo a job only Thais can do and best reserved for them! Song quite popular

about Thais sheding every drop of blood blood for their country..I hear it often, on the telly twice daily!

War on corruption..how many of us would join the fight?

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No, probably they would nt give a work permit to be a soilder! defo a job only Thais can do and best reserved for them! Song quite popular

about Thais sheding every drop of blood blood for their country..I hear it often, on the telly twice daily!

War on corruption..how many of us would join the fight?

Very true !

It's a "job" that a Thai can do THEREFORE no Farang should be allowed to do it ! (according to immigration rule)

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BTW,

If needed I would fight to protect my family in Thailand against a foreign invader.

I would do so without any incentives.

Maybe there would never be a need for you to fight for thailand because if my limited history serves me correctly Thailand has never gone into any serious conflict other than border disputes!

And then given away vast amounts of land..

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I know a lot will say that they are too old or out of shape, to consider going to war, but let's say you were in your mid 30s and fit and healthy with plenty of life ahead of you.

of course i would... if the Thais had ways to rejuvenate me to my mid 30s laugh.png

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This is funny, Most of those that answered probably have never fought for anything in their lives except when they think they are being overcharged for a Chang. And how many of the "Shhhh I can tell you but I would have to kill you crowd" think they still have the skills needed if they ever had them at all.

Just think Vietnam vs France, Vietnam vs USA.

Speaking from experience?

From the looks of things I must have been channeling you
Yea my spidy senses have a habit of picking up ex spooks, cooks and radio operators from Langley....
you forgot the 400 kilo SWAT guys that only retired last week.
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I already did, 47 years ago - on highland jungle patrols in the Phu Phan -- Isaan.

Not quite fighting for Thailand old chap, that was fighting for the US in Thailand because you didn't like the Commies.

Not true. Thailand asked for help and the USA and others responded by sending troops to Thailand to fight in Thailand and that is certainly fighting for Thailand.

So when the OP asks the question, "would you fight for Thailand?" some of us already have. In addition to fighting for Thailand in Thailand, Thailand was an ally of the West in both Korea and Vietnam and as such there was cooperation between the armed forces both in and outside of Thailand by many involved in both of those conflicts.

I believe the OP was about "would you fight for Thailand" not "why would you fight for Thailand."

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For many it would be illegal to fight for "Thai"land as it is a crime. My country would arrest me on return. I m sure this will apply to many other places. So the question is a bit out of place. it is simply not "up to you" to fight in a foreign army. Aside from 'fighting' - enlisting is already enough.

Some of the guys working for companies in the security "business" might also find their return home taking a somewhat unexpected turn when presenting their passports at immigration. Again, what might be ok for that company and might have been ok for that government in need of guns does not matter at all back home. Usually the mark is around 5-10 years free accommodation plus bonus for specific deeds on top of simple membership. Dont worry, food is not too bad and they even hand out a free piece of soap - allegedly helping to reduce pain when getting acquainted with the other inmates. :)

As for Thailand - I am not so sure that this army was ever meant to fight a war. Aircraft carrier turned into a museum is one good example. Historically the army has miserably failed to expand its area of control by attacking other places like Cambodia (both recently and in the 1940s - the memorial for the navy sailors fallen in "defense" of the country is a bad joke) and Laos (landgrab gone bad although circumstances were so favorable).

Its proud tradition of alliances and sleepins with such great institutions like the imperial Japanese army and, yes, good old Nazi Germany are well remembered. I m not aware that there has been any sort of critical reflection by local military historians on that.

Fighting the communists. What a joke! That sad crowd had to call in the Chinese Kuomindang mercenaries from Mae Salong (visit the museum there) to get those students massacred. Ok. I understand, the mountains of Petchabun are not a Bangkok University campus where you can drive in an aircon car to the massacre site, do your business, and then get a massage afterwards. I wonder how much they paid those mercenaries as the latter had to take time off from the drug trade. Oppps. I forgot the involvement of the navy and other parts of the institution in the very same business. They must have found a way as they operated along the same lines.

In sum, that organization has a well-established record but not of defending anyone other than.....

If someone wants to defend Siam and the peoples of Siam he/she needs to think about other avenues. Luckily, foreign agression is not an issue for more than 200 years.

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For many it would be illegal to fight for "Thai"land as it is a crime. My country would arrest me on return. I m sure this will apply to many other places. So the question is a bit out of place. it is simply not "up to you" to fight in a foreign army. Aside from 'fighting' - enlisting is already enough.

Some of the guys working for companies in the security "business" might also find their return home taking a somewhat unexpected turn when presenting their passports at immigration. Again, what might be ok for that company and might have been ok for that government in need of guns does not matter at all back home. Usually the mark is around 5-10 years free accommodation plus bonus for specific deeds on top of simple membership. Dont worry, food is not too bad and they even hand out a free piece of soap - allegedly helping to reduce pain when getting acquainted with the other inmates. smile.png

As for Thailand - I am not so sure that this army was ever meant to fight a war. Aircraft carrier turned into a museum is one good example. Historically the army has miserably failed to expand its area of control by attacking other places like Cambodia (both recently and in the 1940s - the memorial for the navy sailors fallen in "defense" of the country is a bad joke) and Laos (landgrab gone bad although circumstances were so favorable).

Its proud tradition of alliances and sleepins with such great institutions like the imperial Japanese army and, yes, good old Nazi Germany are well remembered. I m not aware that there has been any sort of critical reflection by local military historians on that.

Fighting the communists. What a joke! That sad crowd had to call in the Chinese Kuomindang mercenaries from Mae Salong (visit the museum there) to get those students massacred. Ok. I understand, the mountains of Petchabun are not a Bangkok University campus where you can drive in an aircon car to the massacre site, do your business, and then get a massage afterwards. I wonder how much they paid those mercenaries as the latter had to take time off from the drug trade. Oppps. I forgot the involvement of the navy and other parts of the institution in the very same business. They must have found a way as they operated along the same lines.

In sum, that organization has a well-established record but not of defending anyone other than.....

If someone wants to defend Siam and the peoples of Siam he/she needs to think about other avenues. Luckily, foreign agression is not an issue for more than 200 years.

I don't understand your post. The question was a simple one. Would you fight for Thailand. Some said yes some said no. Some already had fought for Thailand. I don't get the part where you wrote, "Luckily, foreign agression is not an issue for more than 200 years?" Do you mean the next 200 years of the past 200 years?

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OK..... so let's change the rules a little.

Let's say that Thailand just happens to be at war with your home country.

Would you find it tough to make a decision?

Would you go back to your country and fight against Thailand?

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No.

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OK... so let's say at the current situation of peacetime.

If the Thai authorities for example offered full Thai citizenship with full voting rights and everything else that comes part and parcel with being a Thai such as land ownership etc. But they made you sign an agreement that if at any time in the future Thailand found itself in a state of war, then you must be available to be conscripted into active service.

Would you reach for the carrot?

Yes, because

a. Such a war is never going to happen, and b. How could they enforce such an agreement if war did look inevitable and you just simply fled back to your home country?

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I draw the line at direct relatives. I don't consider myself strange for contributing to save a life of someone I have become close to. I can call it expedient but supporting my mother in law is a necessity because without me, nothing works.

I find it incredibly weird in their attitude to foreigners who are actively raising children in Thailand. Presuming that many are providing the finance to enable educating and caring for Thai citizens, they still make it hard for father's to stay, and largely impossible to work.

And I hold this against the British rules for immigration now, which can separate a family due to financial problems. Families should be together, and parents allowed to work to provide for their family. That is a basic right I believe.

Once had an argument with a Thai over this issue. He said that it is easy for me to get into Thailand but extremely difficult for a Thai to get into Britain. My response to him was; it maybe more difficult for a Thai to go to Britain, but once in they are in, and for farangs it maybe easier for them to get into Thailand, but once in the trick then becomes being able to stay here.

My personal opinion is and it is just my opinion not saying I am right, that as regards Immigration, Britain has got it wrong and Thailand has got it right because the Thais put the interests of their own people first plus I would hate to see Westerners given any footholds in Thailand, having been married to Thais and with families or not. The more difficult it becomes for farangs to stay here for the long term, the more I like it for various reasons, which now leads me back to the original topic of this thread that if Thailand ever offered westerners Thai citizenship for fighting in a Thai war the cons would out weight the pros because if the country fell to western influences it would eventually destroy Thai culture, Pattaya being a typical example how how Thailand would be shaped by influxes of farangs into the country.

I was shocked to learn some years ago that there is such a thing as war tourists, war torn countries that actually invite westerners to fight for them. They don`t get paid, just armed and they actually fight for fun. Difficult to believe but it`s fact. My point being that if Thailand did invite farangs to fight on their behalf than it would mostly attract the nutters rather than those fighting for a cause loyal to Thailand.

I have to say Beetlejuice, that your first sentence in your second paragraph was brilliant.

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The real question is what are we fighting for?

For an elite of a hundred upper class family who exploits this country ?

Does not make much difference if they suddenly become Cambodian or Vietnamese ...

That's right! Where is the difference if elite that exploits the country is Thai, Cambodian or Chinese?

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I would fight only for my own country.

And why limit it to age 30's? For those of us who have handled rifles all of our lives and hunted and practiced many, many thousands of rounds, know how to disguise ourselves, know how to move around without been seen or smelled even by cagy wild animals...

I could kill 20 of them before they even knew where I was.

Even if they had signed up Chuck Norris?

I would prefer Jack Reacher.

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I already did, 47 years ago - on highland jungle patrols in the Phu Phan -- Isaan.

Not quite fighting for Thailand old chap, that was fighting for the US in Thailand because you didn't like the Commies.

Not true. Thailand asked for help and the USA and others responded by sending troops to Thailand to fight in Thailand and that is certainly fighting for Thailand.

So when the OP asks the question, "would you fight for Thailand?" some of us already have. In addition to fighting for Thailand in Thailand, Thailand was an ally of the West in both Korea and Vietnam and as such there was cooperation between the armed forces both in and outside of Thailand by many involved in both of those conflicts.

I believe the OP was about "would you fight for Thailand" not "why would you fight for Thailand."

You still believe that political BS?

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I already did, 47 years ago - on highland jungle patrols in the Phu Phan -- Isaan.

Not quite fighting for Thailand old chap, that was fighting for the US in Thailand because you didn't like the Commies.

Not true. Thailand asked for help and the USA and others responded by sending troops to Thailand to fight in Thailand and that is certainly fighting for Thailand.

So when the OP asks the question, "would you fight for Thailand?" some of us already have. In addition to fighting for Thailand in Thailand, Thailand was an ally of the West in both Korea and Vietnam and as such there was cooperation between the armed forces both in and outside of Thailand by many involved in both of those conflicts.

I believe the OP was about "would you fight for Thailand" not "why would you fight for Thailand."

You still believe that political BS?

The topic is would you fight for Thailand. My answer is, "I already did." What does political BS have to do with that? Do you think my CO asked me if I wanted to fight? I don't know what you are on about re the topic?

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The topic is would you fight for Thailand. My answer is, "I already did." What does political BS have to do with that? Do you think my CO asked me if I wanted to fight? I don't know what you are on about re the topic?

but we all do! lol

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