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Am I breaking the law

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Hi I am a UK builder with a Thai wife when I am in Thailand with her I do a few building jobs in and around her village, I take all my own food and drink to places where I work, and I do not get paid for these jobs, but my wife does, she puts the money into an account in her name only so I have no access to the money earned, and she has agreed not to spend any of the money until after my death, so she and kids have plenty of money after I have gone, is this legal or not?

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Absolutely against the law, I'm afraid.. and in that game you will be shopped in no time by local builders..

By the law you should have a work permit.

Next try being a volunteer and (truly) work for free or even pay good money of your own to work... still need a WP.

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Do voluntary work for local Temple School but been told I need work permit to do that as well

Do voluntary work for local Temple School but been told I need work permit to do that as well

You do but it is fairly easy to get. The temple abbot writes a letter saying you are needed and volunteer for no money! He details hours that you attend each week etc

Yes if caught working you will be fined some serious money,

Yes if caught working you will be fined some serious money,

Or get to build the immigration police guys house extension for free!

Beware, local builders will not be happy. Even if your wife set up a company and hire you, you need a shit load of paper work, and you need to make a minimum income to qualify for the WP I think? And then you need to pay 30% tax on that income, whatever it is. Even if you have the work permit, local Builders will still be very unhappy and you need to look behind your back at all times.

Things I would be worried about, in order from least to most:

1. Immigration. You're breaking the law, but it is pretty unlikely you'll get in trouble if you keep it low key.

2. Local builders. They wouldn't be happy that you're taking their work.

3. Wife. "she has agreed not to spend any of the money until after my death".

"she has agreed not to spend any of the money until after my death".



How do you and her know you will die before her?


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Yes if caught working you will be fined some serious money,

And there is the possibility or deportation.

If you have wife and kids deportation not a good idea.

Your not handling any payment, the wife is, has no bearing whatever on the fact your working and you therefore need a WP.

This topic begs the question as to where is the line drawn when helping the wife?

I periodically drive my wife to work, which equates to earning income. I do most of our home improvements,

which equate to possible long term income. Is the line drawn in this circumstance because the op although working for free

is helping the wife earn a income?

You are taking work from a Thai.

This alternative definition: you are not allowed to be kind to a Thai by offering a hand.

You are taking work from a Thai.

This alternative definition: you are not allowed to be kind to a Thai by offering a hand.

You are not allowed to do charity work in the UK without clearance from the police for which you have to pay. Why should it be different here? There are rules. By all means break them. But at least be aware of them.

Absolutely against the law, I'm afraid.. and in that game you will be shopped in no time by local builders..

Agree. I think your looking for big trouble. Even doing it for free, could be considered work.

By the law you should have a work permit.

I believe that construction is a restricted job for which you cannot get a work permit. This is definitely not something you want to be doing. Ever.

Simple are you providing a service for free? does it involve you doing anything other than sitting on your butt? Do you know the meaning of the term Work? Can a Thai do it?if maybe or yes to any of the above. then you broke the law. Best hope plane now Sounds like wife will pimp you out in local Glory hole soon.

You are taking work from a Thai.

This alternative definition: you are not allowed to be kind to a Thai by offering a hand.

You are not allowed to do charity work in the UK without clearance from the police for which you have to pay. Why should it be different here? There are rules. By all means break them. But at least be aware of them.

For example, see MILT above. Or I help my Thai wife by taking children to/fro school, cooking the delicious meals, home improvement/chores, shopping, etc. This look as though as did I already break the law? Because I take work from Thai wife? From OP, he has the right to take the full responsibility to up-bring their children by helping Thai wife. He did not touch the money as mentioned. In my opinion, it will be a dilemma issue if their children are Thai. He is doing good cause for them.

You are taking work from a Thai.

This alternative definition: you are not allowed to be kind to a Thai by offering a hand.

You are not allowed to do charity work in the UK without clearance from the police for which you have to pay. Why should it be different here? There are rules. By all means break them. But at least be aware of them.

For example, see MILT above. Or I help my Thai wife by taking children to/fro school, cooking the delicious meals, home improvement/chores, shopping, etc. This look as though as did I already break the law? Because I take work from Thai wife? From OP, he has the right to take the full responsibility to up-bring their children by helping Thai wife. He did not touch the money as mentioned. In my opinion, it will be a dilemma issue if their children are Thai. He is doing good cause for them.

Cooking, chores in the house, taking kids to school etc. are all no problem an not work. Why do people always look at the extreme examples.

But yes, the op is working, kids and payment have no bearing on that.

I'm pretty sure there is a law against any foreigner doing any job that a thai can do. There's even a list of jobs you are prohibited from performing if I recall correctly.

This topic begs the question as to where is the line drawn when helping the wife?

I periodically drive my wife to work, which equates to earning income. I do most of our home improvements,

which equate to possible long term income. Is the line drawn in this circumstance because the op although working for free

is helping the wife earn a income?

Any activity that could be done by a Thai for pay will officially need a WP. Of course driving your wife to work is not such an activity. Making home improvements is a job that can be done by a Thai for pay, so it needs a WP. Watering your lawn and washing your car can be done by a Thai for pay so you need WP for that.

Of course the immigration offices are not that strict and doesn't care about such small things. But working on building projects around your village and getting paid for this is on another scale and will for sure be cause for concern with immigration if they find out.

»...is this legal or not?«

Absolutely "not" - so keep a low profile, don't speak about it, and don't let anybody see what you are doing.

Upon reading only your first sentence I can assure you that you are breaking the law.

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