What to do?

[RustBucket]

My wife and I build and sell websites in Thailand. My wife markets the business to Thais and I would say 95% of our work is for Thais.

We were contacted by a lady who wants us to build a basic gambling website in duel language of Eng/Thai and load it with a few flash games like roulete, blackjack and some slots.

I know it is totally illegal to run a gambling site here in Thailand but is it illegal to build one for someone?

She wants it hosted offshore and am yet to find out what her funding system is, forget bank transfer.

My wife has managed to get a quote from another developer who will do all the work and we could act as middle men and make about 100K for basically no work.

We have been offered a very high budget to deliver the site, I have to say it is tempting and my wife seems determined to do this as a middle man at the very least. But I am still very nervous about it.

It may well be totally legal to build and sell one and the onus is on whoever operates it and sells the service.

What do you think? ...... Err on the side of caution and refuse it, pass the job on and take a cut for doing no work or take a chance and hope it does not come back on us?

[Soutpeel]

I know it is totally illegal to run a gambling site here in Thailand but is it illegal to build one for someone?

one would suspect so and not being judgemental but one assumes you don't have WP for what your doing either ?

If you don't all it takes is one p*ssed off Thai customer and you might get a visit from immigration as well

[krisb]

100k baht? Not a huge amount really.

Fly out of Thailand and do the deal if you're that nervous.

[RustBucket]

There seems to be an obsession on this forum with farangs having or not having work permits.

[RustBucket]

100k baht? Not a huge amount really.

Fly out of Thailand and do the deal if you're that nervous.

I should have said in my original post. I have already made up my mind that I am not working on this myself.

It is my wife who wants to go ahead with it. I am trying to put her off the idea, but if it were to happen I would certaily insist she is no more than a middle man.

[Soutpeel]

There seems to be an obsession on this forum with farangs having or not having work permits.

I take it by your response then you haven't, as I stated wasn't trying to be judgmental just pointing out the risks that's all and its does seen given your customer base there could be a risk, but hey you know better, its your life....

[JOC]

There seems to be an obsession on this forum with farangs having or not having work permits.

Why come here and ask for advice, if you are not willing listen to the answers??

Soutpeel gave you a sensible reply, telling you to keep a low profile if no WP. And a rude reply from you.

So my advice is: Do what the <deleted> you want, nobody cares....................

[Soutpeel]

There seems to be an obsession on this forum with farangs having or not having work permits.

Why come here and ask for advice, if you are not willing listen to the answers??

Soutpeel gave you a sensible reply, telling you to keep a low profile if no WP. And a rude reply from you.

So my advice is: Do what the <deleted> you want, nobody cares....................

the amusing thing occurred to me reading his OP was that if he didn't have a WP, (and hence my question) why would he be worried about the legality of doing a gambling website anyway, it not like they would pull his WP for doing something illegal, as he was already doing something illegal in the first instance...

[RustBucket]

There seems to be an obsession on this forum with farangs having or not having work permits.

Why come here and ask for advice, if you are not willing listen to the answers??

Soutpeel gave you a sensible reply, telling you to keep a low profile if no WP. And a rude reply from you.

So my advice is: Do what the <deleted> you want, nobody cares....................

the amusing thing occurred to me reading his OP was that if he didn't have a WP, (and hence my question) why would he be worried about the legality of doing a gambling website anyway, it not like they would pull his WP for doing something illegal, as he was already doing something illegal in the first instance...

But the big question that you have failed to answer is

Is it illegal?

Another thig you are only assuming is that I don't have a WP.

Regardless of my response. My WP status is nothing to do with the OP is it? and even less to do with members on here...... I just amusingly pointed out the INFATUATIOON most members have on here about other people's WP status.

To be quite frank, I do not need advice about WPs that is not what I was asking, I was asking if any member knows if it illegal to build a gambling website. I am not even building the <deleted!> thing so my WP has sod all to do with it.

[Soutpeel]

There seems to be an obsession on this forum with farangs having or not having work permits.

Why come here and ask for advice, if you are not willing listen to the answers??

Soutpeel gave you a sensible reply, telling you to keep a low profile if no WP. And a rude reply from you.

So my advice is: Do what the <deleted> you want, nobody cares....................

the amusing thing occurred to me reading his OP was that if he didn't have a WP, (and hence my question) why would he be worried about the legality of doing a gambling website anyway, it not like they would pull his WP for doing something illegal, as he was already doing something illegal in the first instance...

But the big question that you have failed to answer is

Is it illegal?

Another thig you are only assuming is that I don't have a WP.

Regardless of my response. My WP status is nothing to do with the OP is it? and even less to do with members on herre...... I just amusingluy pointed out the INFATUATIOON most members have on herte about other people's WP status.

To be quite frank, I do not need advice about WPs that is not what I was asking, I was asking if any member knows if it illegal to build a gambling website. I am not eve3n building the ****ing thing so my WP has sod all to do with it.

Am I assuming ? based on your deflective responses to date, one can only conclude you don't, otherwise you would have said you had one from the offset, and not have to resort to rude responses.

but to answer your question

If one produces "copy" products i.e. fake Handbag etc. in Thailand, which are not intended for sale or distribution in Thailand, does that make the production of said fake handbags legal in Thailand ?

there is your answer...you are producing a product in Thailand which is to be used for something which is deemed illegal in Thailand...ergo the production of a website which is intended for use to undertake an illegal act in Thailand, ie gambling has to be illegal to produce in the first instance because it promotes/facilitates that illegal act in Thailand

[HeijoshinCool]

100k?

For that payday, you and the wife can fly out of the country on a very nice week's holiday, someplace you can also do the transaction legally, and still have money left over. No laws broken.

Hong Kong comes to mind.

[RustBucket]

Am I assuming ? based on your deflective responses to date, one can only conclude you don't, otherwise you would have said you had one from the offset, and not have to resort to rude responses.

You will make a terrible policeman then.

[RustBucket]

100k?

For that payday, you and the wife can fly out of the country on a very nice week's holiday, someplace you can also do the transaction legally, and still have money left over. No laws broken.

Hong Kong comes to mind.

Thank you, that is a very clever and helpful answer. I am due a holiday.

I hope we do not infringe any WP laws while we are away.......

[Jdietz]

OP is only here to attack people who give advise, doesn't really seem to want anything other than confirmation of his insecurity.

[Soutpeel]

Am I assuming ? based on your deflective responses to date, one can only conclude you don't, otherwise you would have said you had one from the offset, and not have to resort to rude responses.

You will make a terrible policeman then.

and your still being deflective I see and still haven't answered the question....you stated your WP status had no bearing on your OP,

I have attempted to answer your question, but yet you have chose to only focus on one aspect of my response so who has an obsession now ?

look its obvious you don't have WP for the production of websites, but suppose you might have one as an English teacher or something, hence the reason your being deflective all the time...

I was trying to be helpful initially, you chose to be rude, so as stated a few posts back, its your life, you know it all...so who cares what you do

[HeijoshinCool]

100k?

For that payday, you and the wife can fly out of the country on a very nice week's holiday, someplace you can also do the transaction legally, and still have money left over. No laws broken.

Hong Kong comes to mind.

Thank you, that is a very clever and helpful answer. I am due a holiday.

I hope we do not infringe any WP laws while we are away.......

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No problem. It's a good bargaining chip with your wife.

Air Asia often has flights to HK for 2500 baht round trip.

[Soutpeel]

100k?

For that payday, you and the wife can fly out of the country on a very nice week's holiday, someplace you can also do the transaction legally, and still have money left over. No laws broken.

Hong Kong comes to mind.

Wow all this cloak and dagger stuff for less than USD 3000, less than 3k doesn't go very far for a week in HK..

Hardly a pay day....

[Soutpeel]

100k?

For that payday, you and the wife can fly out of the country on a very nice week's holiday, someplace you can also do the transaction legally, and still have money left over. No laws broken.

Hong Kong comes to mind.

but of course as you obviously don't know on line gambling on websites in HK is illegal as well unless its government sanctioned, as is the rest of China...

so not with standing his WP, he is conducting and illegal act in one country to facilitate an illegal act in another

Maybe try Macau

[HeijoshinCool]

*sigh*

[Soutpeel]

*sigh*

Exactly......

[YeahSiam]

Just waiting for the "Mama

noodles", "fan room" and

"digital pikey" digs. Then

the long-drawn out slog

over the OP's visa status.

[metisdead]

Discussing the legalities of illegal activities etc.

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