Chelsea Fc Thread

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

Don't know about 'most'. Half wouldn't get to see any home games.

Well, 25% wouldnt as Fulhams capacity will be 30 000, compared to Chelsea's 40 000 .

   It would have been ideal if Chelsea would pay to develop Craven cottage to bring their capacity up to somewhere close to 40 000 and play their home games there

[carmine]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Well, 25% wouldnt as Fulhams capacity will be 30 000, compared to Chelsea's 40 000 .

   It would have been ideal if Chelsea would pay to develop Craven cottage to bring their capacity up to somewhere close to 40 000 and play their home games there

Fulhams capacity is 23000 isn't it?

[owl sees all]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Well, 25% wouldnt as Fulhams capacity will be 30 000, compared to Chelsea's 40 000 .

   It would have been ideal if Chelsea would pay to develop Craven cottage to bring their capacity up to somewhere close to 40 000 and play their home games there

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What happened to that plan to build a new ground on the Thames? A floating ground. Sounded a great plan to me. The sale of the old ground would pay for it.

Edited June 11, 2018 by owl sees all

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, carmine said:

Not to mention the staggering loss in revenues!

The loss would not be "staggering"

25 % less fans , ticket prices could be increased to make that 20 n% less income from ticket sales .

   The majority of income these days comes from sponsorship and TV rights deals and prize money .

   The loss of revenue could be about 10 % of current income and rental of CC would be cheaper than rental at Wembley , so, it wouldnt make much difference

[carmine]

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

What happened to that plan to build a new ground over the Thames? A floating ground. Sounds a great plan to me. The sale of the old ground would pay for it.

The sale of Craven Cottage is far from simple as Al Fayad found out when he was owner because part of it is Grade 2 listed

[carmine]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

The loss would not be "staggering"

25 % less fans , ticket prices could be increased to make that 20 n% less income from ticket sales .

   The majority of income these days comes from sponsorship and TV rights deals and prize money .

   The loss of revenue could be about 10 % of current income and rental of CC would be cheaper than rental at Wembley , so, it wouldnt make much difference

The loss of revenues by using Craven Cottage as opposed to Wembley would be huge and unacceptable commercially to Abramovich and then he'd be having to explain to thousands of loyal fans why they won't be able to attend matches at home for a season.  Its totally flawed.

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, carmine said:

Fulhams capacity is 23000 isn't it?

25 000 at the moment and they are scheduled to begin redevelopment next summer to bring the capacity up to 30 000

[carmine]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

25 000 at the moment and they are scheduled to begin redevelopment next summer to bring the capacity up to 30 000

And yet, you will be playing at Wembley!!?

 

I'll hold my hands up if i'm wrong!!!

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, carmine said:

The loss of revenues by using Craven Cottage as opposed to Wembley would be huge and unacceptable commercially to Abramovich and then he'd be having to explain to thousands of loyal fans why they won't be able to attend matches at home for a season.  Its totally flawed.

Conversing with match going Chelsea fans online , a fair few have stated that they will not renew their season tickets , if Chelsea play at Wembley .

[alfieconn]

44 minutes ago, carmine said:

Fulhams capacity is 23000 isn't it?

To be fair if you took away all the glory hunter's and all the plastic fans then a capacity of 23,000 would be plenty for the chavs !

Edited June 11, 2018 by alfieconn

[carmine]

20 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Conversing with match going Chelsea fans online , a fair few have stated that they will not renew their season tickets , if Chelsea play at Wembley .

If true, how fickle is that!!

[carmine]

1 minute ago, alfieconn said:

To be fair if you took away all the glory hunter's and all the plastic fans then a capacity of 23,000 would be plenty !

 

2 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

To be fair if you took away all the glory hunter's and all the plastic fans then a capacity of 23,000 would be plenty !

NB  #14679     This is starting to get amusing!!!?

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, carmine said:

If true, how fickle is that!!

Its quite an unpleasant experience , having to go to that area of London , Wembley and the local area , with the high street full of charity shops, pound shops , 99 P shops for the rich and 89 P shops for the less fortunate, along with kebab shops, fried chicken shops, afro hairdressers and nail shops and betting shops .

   Not a pleasant day out , its OK one a twice a year to visit White hart lane or Wembley , BUT , four continuous years may turn affluent South West Londoners into street gangstas 

[alfieconn]

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

Its quite an unpleasant experience , having to go to that area of London , Wembley and the local area , with the high street full of charity shops, pound shops , 99 P shops for the rich and 89 P shops for the less fortunate, along with kebab shops, fried chicken shops, afro hairdressers and nail shops and betting shops .

   Not a pleasant day out , its OK one a twice a year to visit White hart lane or Wembley , BUT , four continuous years may turn affluent South West Londoners into street gangstas 

An unpleasant experience ! when was the last time you went to Wembley ?  why would you have need to go the local area / high st ? you either come out of Wembley Park station or park in one of the car park's both of which are close to the stadium, if you want something to eat you go to a large shopping outlet next to the stadium which has a multitude of nice restaurants.

[smokie36]

Obviously the chavs are worried with their dwingling fortunes they won't be able to fill Wembley as we can.

 

Even we struggled to fill it for midweek games outside the CL fixtures as its a bloody big stadium.

 

Great for getting a ticket for most games though I have to say....back to a bit of a scramble for me at times I suspect next season.

[sanemax]

8 hours ago, alfieconn said:

An unpleasant experience ! when was the last time you went to Wembley ?  why would you have need to go the local area / high st ? you either come out of Wembley Park station or park in one of the car park's both of which are close to the stadium, if you want something to eat you go to a large shopping outlet next to the stadium which has a multitude of nice restaurants.

Yes , you are right , I was getting Tottenham high street mixed up with Wembley high street .

[evenstevens]

12 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

Obviously the chavs are worried with their dwingling fortunes they won't be able to fill Wembley as we can.

 

 

thks plank for  arousing  e/s from his deep  slumber .as it is now silly season  as your above post surely vindicates .  moving onto the lush spelling paddocks provided . for winning the  footy prediction comp on this channell.will certainly freshen up and be in fine fettle .to defend my title .do sincerely hope your hands are up again.  to pass that dreaded wooden spoon on to someone else lol

[sanemax]

16 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

Obviously the chavs are worried with their dwingling fortunes they won't be able to fill Wembley as we can.

 

Tottenhams average PL attendance at Wembley was less than 70 000 , FC /FL cup games getting less than 24 000 , with Wembleys capacity being 90 000, Spurs didnt sell out any game at Wembley .

   Hopefully Chelsea wont fill Wembley as you can , hopefully some of our games will be full

[Blue Muton]

27 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Tottenhams average PL attendance at Wembley was less than 70 000 , FC /FL cup games getting less than 24 000 , with Wembleys capacity being 90 000, Spurs didnt sell out any game at Wembley .

   Hopefully Chelsea wont fill Wembley as you can , hopefully some of our games will be full

Never mind that, I want to know how, exactly, one's fortunes (or anything else for that matter) dwingle?

[smokie36]

36 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Tottenhams average PL attendance at Wembley was less than 70 000 , FC /FL cup games getting less than 24 000 , with Wembleys capacity being 90 000, Spurs didnt sell out any game at Wembley .

   Hopefully Chelsea wont fill Wembley as you can , hopefully some of our games will be full

 

You'll find the police have other ideas.

[carmine]

14 hours ago, sanemax said:

Tottenhams average PL attendance at Wembley was less than 70 000 , FC /FL cup games getting less than 24 000 , with Wembleys capacity being 90 000, Spurs didnt sell out any game at Wembley .

   Hopefully Chelsea wont fill Wembley as you can , hopefully some of our games will be full

Again, you haven'y done your homework have you!!  The Metropolitan Police put a cap on Category A games, such as our derby when your thugs turn up in larger than normal numbers.  Its about how many tickets we are allowed to sell which will be the case when you use Wembley during your eventual stadium build.  Hope that clears things up!!

[carmine]

13 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

You'll find the police have other ideas.

Correct?

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, carmine said:

Again, you haven'y done your homework have you!!  The Metropolitan Police put a cap on Category A games, such as our derby when your thugs turn up in larger than normal numbers.  Its about how many tickets we are allowed to sell which will be the case when you use Wembley during your eventual stadium build.  Hope that clears things up!!

As I seem to recall , there were 73 000 at Wembley to see Chelsea beat Tottenham 1-2 (There may well have been police ticket restrictions for a category A game) , although there were 83 000 for Tottehnam V Arsenal .

   There were five other PL games at Wembley where the attendance was in the 50 000's .

   Are you saying that the Police restricted your Watford home match to 52 000 supporters ?

  Tottenham were allowed to open up the full Wembley stadium . 90 000 ,and not even once was their a full capacity , average being less than 70 000

[carmine]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

As I seem to recall , there were 73 000 at Wembley to see Chelsea beat Tottenham 1-2 (There may well have been police ticket restrictions for a category A game) , although there were 83 000 for Tottehnam V Arsenal .

   There were five other PL games at Wembley where the attendance was in the 50 000's .

   Are you saying that the Police restricted your Watford home match to 52 000 supporters ?

  Tottenham were allowed to open up the full Wembley stadium . 90 000 ,and not even once was their a full capacity , average being less than 70 000

 

What you do or don't recall is not the issue.  That being that the police have the power to cap attendances which is what they were doing at Wembley.  What you are ignoring is that i said Category A fixtures, so no i wasn't referring to Watford as its not a Category A fixture.  There is nothing to suggest that we were ever in a position to have a 90k sell out.  Remind me again what your point is?

 

You point in this debate is that you  are saying that the vast majority of Chelsea fans don't want to make the journey to Wembley?!  That they would rather take their chances and see if they might get the odd ticket at Craven Cottage?  Apart from some type of one up man ship i can't see the point you are making.

Edited June 13, 2018 by carmine

[Blue Muton]

4 hours ago, carmine said:

Again, you haven'y done your homework have you!!  The Metropolitan Police put a cap on Category A games, such as our derby when your thugs turn up in larger than normal numbers.  Its about how many tickets we are allowed to sell which will be the case when you use Wembley during your eventual stadium build.  Hope that clears things up!!

"your thugs"?

 

It wasn't Chelsea fans who did this to an innocent Rottenham fan now, was it?

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-hunt-spurs-fan-who-attacked-fellow-supporter-after-mistaking-him-for-chelsea-follower-a3638166.html

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, carmine said:

 

What you do or don't recall is not the issue.  That being that the police have the power to cap attendances which is what they were doing at Wembley.  What you are ignoring is that i said Category A fixtures, so no i wasn't referring to Watford as its not a Category A fixture.  There is nothing to suggest that we were ever in a position to have a 90k sell out.  Remind me again what your point is?

 

You point in this debate is that you  are saying that the vast majority of Chelsea fans don't want to make the journey to Wembley?!  That they would rather take their chances and see if they might get the odd ticket at Craven Cottage?  Apart from some type of one up man ship i can't see the point you are making.

I was replying to another poster who claimed that Chelsea couldnt sell out at Wembley , like Tottenham could (or something along those lines) and I was just pointing out that Tottenham never got a full house at Wembley .

   There were some games where Police restricted the number of tickets available(although only the Chelsea game had police restrictions, as far as Im aware ) .

   On a separate issue , I just pointed out that most Chelsea fans would prefer a move to CC rather than Wembley , I did do a little poll on a Chelsea website and everyone preferred CC to Wembley , reasons being that CC is local , Wembley is a chore to get to and even worse trying to get away , CC is a proper football ground and Wembley is a soul less ground lacking atmosphere , and the red seats .

   Chelsea will have to move for four years , and four years of going to Wembley and back , just doesnt appeal to South West Londoners

[carmine]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I was replying to another poster who claimed that Chelsea couldnt sell out at Wembley , like Tottenham could (or something along those lines) and I was just pointing out that Tottenham never got a full house at Wembley .

   There were some games where Police restricted the number of tickets available(although only the Chelsea game had police restrictions, as far as Im aware ) .

   On a separate issue , I just pointed out that most Chelsea fans would prefer a move to CC rather than Wembley , I did do a little poll on a Chelsea website and everyone preferred CC to Wembley , reasons being that CC is local , Wembley is a chore to get to and even worse trying to get away , CC is a proper football ground and Wembley is a soul less ground lacking atmosphere , and the red seats .

   Chelsea will have to move for four years , and four years of going to Wembley and back , just doesnt appeal to South West Londoners

I know its going to be a complicated build what with the space restrictions but i had no idea it was going to be a four years process!!

[smokie36]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

As I seem to recall , there were 73 000 at Wembley to see Chelsea beat Tottenham 1-2 (There may well have been police ticket restrictions for a category A game) , although there were 83 000 for Tottehnam V Arsenal .

   There were five other PL games at Wembley where the attendance was in the 50 000's .

   Are you saying that the Police restricted your Watford home match to 52 000 supporters ?

  Tottenham were allowed to open up the full Wembley stadium . 90 000 ,and not even once was their a full capacity , average being less than 70 000

 

Yes we failed to fill the ground particularly against the smaller clubs and in midweek.

 

Simple reason many of us have to travel...have work in the am and for certain there is a cost element.

 

Often there are two games a week so a lot of us have to pick and choose and believe me you can do a lot of that with a 90k capacity stadium.

 

The big games the stadium was as full as was allowed with ALL tickets sold.

 

Trust me.....I have access to this type of thing as I pay my money every year for premium ticket access....for the smaller clubs tickets were often available for 20 quid....oh I hear its 55 quid at the chavs for the cheapest seat btw is that true?

[smokie36]

2 minutes ago, carmine said:

I know its going to be a complicated build what with the space restrictions but i had no idea it was going to be a four years process!!

 

I dunno why we're discussing it carms cos they aint building one now. 

[Bredbury Blue]

13 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Yes we failed to fill the ground particularly against the smaller clubs and in midweek.

 

Simple reason many of us have to travel...have work in the am and for certain there is a cost element.

 

Often there are two games a week so a lot of us have to pick and choose and believe me you can do a lot of that with a 90k capacity stadium.

 

The big games the stadium was as full as was allowed with ALL tickets sold.

 

Trust me.....I have access to this type of thing as I pay my money every year for premium ticket access....for the smaller clubs tickets were often available for 20 quid....oh I hear its 55 quid at the chavs for the cheapest seat btw is that true?

Hope Bangrak Bob doesn't read that or he'll  be all over you (he counts the empty seats off the telly at Etihad games). Apparently Anfield sells out every game ?