24 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:

Punish the innocent for others misdemeanors. 

Closer to home are you saying the Royhinga in Myanmar are responsible for their own persecution 

I'm not going to get into specific cases, and I never said anyone was responsible for their own persecution, but people can be very magnanimous until it affects them directly. I don't see mass migration from one basket case country to another well governed affluent country as being the answer. Sooner or later people have to get their own house in order. Pretty easy to piggyback on someone else who has already fought for freedom, democracy and a good standard of living.

3 hours ago, i claudius said:

on the whole we are not allowed to work here

 

3 hours ago, giddyup said:

Falangs aren't immigrants, we have to pay our own way in Thailand, bit different than asylum seekers who are leeching off a wealthier country.

refugees and asylum seekers are per definition not immigrants.

1 minute ago, Naam said:

 

refugees and asylum seekers are per definition not immigrants.

Didn't I say "a bit different than"?

Just now, giddyup said:

Didn't I say "a bit different than"?

 

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Didn't I say "a bit different than"?

you referred to Farangs. i referred to your assumption "asylum seekers leeching...".

3 minutes ago, Naam said:

 

you referred to Farangs. i referred to your assumption "asylum seekers leeching...".

My point was that there are no handouts for falangs in Thailand, either support yourself or go home.

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

My point was that there are no handouts for falangs in Thailand, either support yourself or go home.

The comparison is not analogous

What Country do The Analogous come from,must be the only ones not in Brick Lane as yet.[emoji247]


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Yes, most Brits in Thailand.

Pray tell,what do we demand or indeed get from The Thai authorities.and as for integration most of us are married to Thai women.also we bring our own cash with us and neither ask for or get benifits

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On 20/03/2017 at 1:44 PM, Naam said:

 

refugees and asylum seekers are per definition not immigrants.

They used to be know as "Illegal immigrants" but then the do gooders decided it was everybody's human right to live in Europe...

On 3/20/2017 at 0:44 PM, Naam said:

 

refugees and asylum seekers are per definition not immigrants.

No your right ,problem is their not wanted either 

illegal immigrants are not welcome ....   stay in your own country.

Why should one pay more in taxes just because thousand of illegal immigrants want a better deal in a better country ....  no thanks.

Muslims need shelter only in muslim countries or just wait for better times.90%of recent refugees are not related to a war whatsoever.

Governments need to grow a pair, and only allow the people who want to resettle in a new country to go there, what i see in australia, is a bunch of people coming into my country not willing to follow our rules do not want to work at all, getting huge hand outs, not wanting to learn our language, being paid for 3 wives, and yet the very people who paid their txes and worked all their lives just get a very substandard pension, and people ask me why i do not like these people?? i think it is as plain as the nose on my face, they are not poor refugees, for us with our eyes open wide, they want everything and most governments are just too weak to stand up and stop this rot.....

On 2017-5-23 at 7:55 PM, hoffy66 said:

Governments need to grow a pair, and only allow the people who want to resettle in a new country to go there, what i see in australia, is a bunch of people coming into my country not willing to follow our rules do not want to work at all, getting huge hand outs, not wanting to learn our language, being paid for 3 wives, and yet the very people who paid their txes and worked all their lives just get a very substandard pension, and people ask me why i do not like these people?? i think it is as plain as the nose on my face, they are not poor refugees, for us with our eyes open wide, they want everything and most governments are just too weak to stand up and stop this rot.....

Has the government ever stated that it would increase welfare payments if they could reduce the number of  welfare recipients? Answer - No

If your country has participated in policies that have contributed to people becoming refugees, then yes. If a country has profited by supporting ruthless dictators simply because it serves their own national interests (arms sales, exploitation of natural resources) then also yes. I think most of the countries in the West are guilty to some degree.

Yes , let em in if you don't neglect you own needy for them , but we do so A Big No from me . UKs full send em to Saudi[emoji248][emoji205]


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The people who post on here about letting them in and loving our immegrants ,well you look after them ,why should i .?

On 2/5/2017 at 10:27 AM, chiang mai said:

Yes, most Brits in Thailand.

  Yep ,  the  know all ,  Brits    who choose  to leave the  UK  and  now  live  ,  in LOS ,

 know sweet,,,    555

Hmmm tell that to that dude in Portland....

20 hours ago, elliss said:

  Yep ,  the  know all ,  Brits    who choose  to leave the  UK  and  now  live  ,  in LOS ,

 know sweet,,,    555

I am one of the "know all" Brits who left the UK.  However, I still pay UK income tax on my pensions and I have to prove to Thai immigration that I have enough money to support myself here.  Thailand gives me nothing.  The recent killer of  UK children in Manchester was born of immigrants accepted in the UK, educated, given student loans for further education and still thought it furthered his cause to kill over 20 people.

The UK has nothing to be ashamed of in our treatment of immigrants but it was a mistake not to insist on integration and then even to bend the rules to favour them.

Just to say, in case nobody did earlier in the thread, that it is ridiculous IMO to count students coming to UK-universities, amongst the headline immigration figure.

 

The UK makes good money over 3-4 years from these genuine-students, and they're being put off by the unwelcoming image which the country now has, we should be trying to attract them !

 

Of course this doesn't go for the fake-students, supposedly studying at complicit fake-colleges, while in-reality working at whatever they can find. This trade needs to be cracked-down upon, obviously.

No. Screening and vetting will not show what they really think.

We are nothing but infidels. Europe is all the proof I need