Win 10 October Update (version 1809) Re-released 13 Nov 18

[Pib]

Version 1809 is back on streets again....see below Microsoft webpage and partial quote. 

 

A bunch of cumulative updates also released on 13 Nov for other Win 10 versions such as 1803, 1709, etc.  I just installed the latest cumulative update for 1803. 

 

Will wait a few more weeks before installing 1809 on both my laptops to make sure it's really been fixed as I can easily delay feature updates such as 1809 and quality updates since I have Win 10 "Pro" which allows feature/update delays.

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4464619

 

[Pib]

More issues with the re-released 1809 like a drive mapping problem which MS says will not be fixed until 2019.

 

https://www.askwoody.com/2018/patch-lady-1809-and-mapped-drives/

Partial Quote Below

 

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– 1809 and mapped drives

Posted on November 14th, 2018 at 14:34 Susan Bradley Comment on the AskWoody Lounge

For those of you in a domain, who have Windows 10 pro versions, please make sure that you  have put in place feature update deferrals to ensure you don’t receive 1809 until you … and Microsoft … are ready for it.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4471218/mapped-network-drives-don-t-work-in-windows-10-version-1809

I cannot believe.. well I guess in this era of Microsoft I can believe… that Microsoft would release an update that would impact their customer base like this.  Yes, it’s documented, yes there are “workarounds” but there is possibilities that line of business applications will not be happy with these solutions given.

In Microsoft’s zeal to code for their future, they are putting bugs in their existing customers.  UNC paths and browser only may be the wave of the future, but to many small and medium businesses with older workforces (like mine) a mapped drive is the typical way that many firms still have their network set up.

 

 

 

Microsoft Webpage 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4471218/mapped-network-drives-don-t-work-in-windows-10-version-1809

 

 

 

[chrisinth]

20 hours ago, Pib said:

More issues with the re-released 1809 like a drive mapping problem which MS says will not be fixed until 2019.

 

https://www.askwoody.com/2018/patch-lady-1809-and-mapped-drives/

Partial Quote Below

 

 

 

Microsoft Webpage 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4471218/mapped-network-drives-don-t-work-in-windows-10-version-1809

 

 

 

Cheers for that, I have 25 workstations that could well go tits up if they upgrade to 1809. Not worth taking the risk, small as it maybe.

 

You know, just thinking about this, that is a massive blunder as I don't know of any office setups that don't use mapping in one form or another. Really haven't got time to go down the script/policy path.

[Pib]

Microsoft needs to stop relying on 16 year olds who are only enamored by the Windows dark scheme and gaming in testing Windows beta releases on their Insider Program.   MS needs to improve their internal Quality Assurance testing versus relying so heavily on "you and me" testing out in the real world.   

 

Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with "you and me" beta testing/feedback to "supplement" internal MS testings by programming experts, but MS seems to be relying on it too heavily.

[Pib]

After version 1809 received 4 updates since it release (and re-release) to fix issues and since some websites which are generally critical of Win 10 upgrades said 1809 now appears to be safe to install, I did upgrade my two Lenovo laptops from 1803 to 1809 last night and this morning.  Everything went fine....and after a day of testing I haven't noticed any issues.

 

 

[Ks45672]

On 12/11/2018 at 7:01 PM, Pib said:

After version 1809 received 4 updates since it release (and re-release) to fix issues and since some websites which are generally critical of Win 10 upgrades said 1809 now appears to be safe to install, I did upgrade my two Lenovo laptops from 1803 to 1809 last night and this morning.  Everything went fine....and after a day of testing I haven't noticed any issues.

 

 

How old were the laptops?

 

1803 managed to break one of mine 

 

 

WiFi and USB ports didn't work and

Rollback from the BSOD didn't work so i had to clean install from usb stick 

 

This happened twice 

 

i gave up on it the third time and turned of all updates except windows defender definitions and now running like a champion on an earlier version, 10420 i think

[Pib]

I have a 5 year old Lenovo i7 laptop and a 3 year old Lenovo i5 laptop.  Both worked fine with 1803 and so far on 1809 which I upgraded them to yesterday

 

So far the only release of Win 10 neither of them liked was the 1709 version, repeat 1709, from a year ago.  Both developed Restart problems about a month after upgrading to 1709 where on some "Restarts" I would get a BSOD.  I reset both which is basically a reinstall of 1709 and then they worked fine.   

 

Both worked fine on 1803 and so far both are working fine on 1809.  

[longball53098]

I jumped in today and did the 1809 update to a Asus laptop 3 years old with new SSD drive I installed about 6 months ago. As far as I saw it went very smooth and took less than 2 hours total. About an hour + to download and get ready and when I did the restart to install the actual install and config took about half an hour. PC is back up and running. We will see what if any issues pop up. This is not a primary PC so if problems arise I can take time to solve them

[Mutt Daeng]

Just updated to 1809. Hardware - Gigabyte Z270-HD3 board, i5 7400 cpu & 32GB RAM. Smooth & painless. Only small issue so far was that the display settings for my monitor (40" TV) had gone back to the default settings which is easily corrected using the Intel Driver Control Panel. This happens each time I upgrade Windows. Network drives working as normal.

[worgeordie]

Over the last few days updated 6 of my mini PC's to 1809,without problem,

but I have one that when its installing the update stops at 42% that has

happened 3 times today,every time at 42 %, ????, anyone have any idea

what the problem could be,

regards worgeordie

[Daffy D]

I check and get regular updates every week and though I am getting regularly updated I see I'm still on version 1803 ???? 

 

I was on "Enterprise" and this changed on an update some time ago to "Education" but this did not seem to make any overall difference.

 

What have I done wrong that I don't get updated to latest 1809 ????

[scottiejohn]

10 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Over the last few days updated 6 of my mini PC's to 1809,without problem,

but I have one that when its installing the update stops at 42% that has

happened 3 times today,every time at 42 %, ????, anyone have any idea

what the problem could be,

regards worgeordie

Have you tried using the inbuilt "Update troubleshooter" app in win 10? It usually fixes "hanging" problems.

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Daffy D said:

I check and get regular updates every week and though I am getting regularly updated I see I'm still on version 1803 ???? 

 

I was on "Enterprise" and this changed on an update some time ago to "Education" but this did not seem to make any overall difference.

 

What have I done wrong that I don't get updated to latest 1809 ????

 

When I updated my two Lenovo laptops to 1809 a week or so ago I noticed the same thing happening.  I would click the Win 10 Check for Updates and I was not being offered the 1809 update.  I remembered upon 1809's re-release in Microsoft's statement (quoted below) they said please wait until it's offered to your machine which to me implies just clicking check for updates may not result in 1809 being offered...kinda like you just have to wait for your queue ticket to be called instead.

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4464619/windows-10-update-history

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On November 13, 2018, we re-released the Windows 10 October Update (version 1809), Windows Server 2019, and Windows Server, version 1809. We encourage you to wait until the feature update is offered to your device automatically.  A summary of the current status of the October Update can be found below.

 

So, what I did was go to below Microsoft webpage, click Update Now....did the update that way.  Basically this forces the 1809 download/install....worked fine with my two laptops...you don't lose any data/programs....it just a different way to start the upgrade....total time to upgrade including download time was approx 1 hour.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

[Daffy D]

Thanks Pib, Lots of posts about the latest update and was just wondering why I was missing out.

 

Now I know nothing is wrong with my setup think I'll just wait till it's my turn, hopefully by that time all the wrinkles will have been sorted out  

 

Cheers  

[Mutt Daeng]

I just used the media creation tool from here https://www.microsoft.com/en-in/software-download/Windows10#d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec

[ravip]

I did the update almost as it came, no problems since.

[longball53098]

On 12/14/2018 at 6:08 PM, longball53098 said:

I jumped in today and did the 1809 update to a Asus laptop 3 years old with new SSD drive I installed about 6 months ago. As far as I saw it went very smooth and took less than 2 hours total. About an hour + to download and get ready and when I did the restart to install the actual install and config took about half an hour. PC is back up and running. We will see what if any issues pop up. This is not a primary PC so if problems arise I can take time to solve them

Just yesterday I updated 3 more PCs to 1809. Two of them were MSI mini PCs called a Windbox DC 111 that I use for HTPC on two TVs and the 3rd is my HP desktop and my primary machine. All 3 updates went very smooth and average time was about an hour each. No issues have been seen today or last night.

[bendejo]

I ran the update in October and it turned out to be 1803 (Win Home).  All the official sites MS was pointing to didn't specify version, just stuff along the lines of "run update" and I ran in circles trying to find it.  Not what I intended but it cleaned up my funky 1803 installation, and it's now running like a charm.  I have a few different video apps, some of which didn't work, then I removed the latest Flash player security update and I'm happy all my things are running.  I'm reluctant to do an update check.

 

 

[Daffy D]

So took the plunge and updated to 1809. All went smoothly and seems to be running OK, but early days.

 

System seems to be running a little slower but maybe that's just my imagination, will wait and see.

 

One positive outcome was the Windows Defender icon that had disappeared from the bottom right of the task bar some time ago magically reappeared after the upgrade.

 

Unfortunately the Edge icon still refuses to show itself even after the upgrade. I just have a blank space on the taskbar where the icon should be, but it works.

 

 

[Ks45672]

On 12/12/2018 at 9:06 PM, Pib said:

I have a 5 year old Lenovo i7 laptop and a 3 year old Lenovo i5 laptop.  Both worked fine with 1803 and so far on 1809 which I upgraded them to yesterday

 

So far the only release of Win 10 neither of them liked was the 1709 version, repeat 1709, from a year ago.  Both developed Restart problems about a month after upgrading to 1709 where on some "Restarts" I would get a BSOD.  I reset both which is basically a reinstall of 1709 and then they worked fine.   

 

Both worked fine on 1803 and so far both are working fine on 1809.  

The only laptop i had grief with was a 2014 dell device 

 

I usually keep all systems up to date for the sake of latest security patches etc but will defer updates for the time being because the system is running fine after 3 calamities with 1803 which lost all the files and needed a total clean installation to fix... 

 

Windows defender, Malwarebytes Pro, avira  antivirus and the firewall should hopefully be able to protect the system until i have time to try 1809 and see if it breaks anything/everything

 

If Microsoft breaks  it again i may just install win 7 pro on it and refuse the w10.... 

 

 

 

 

[bendejo]

15 hours ago, Daffy D said:

System seems to be running a little slower but maybe that's just my imagination, will wait and see.

 

You can try opening a terminal window (what used to be called a DOS prompt) and run

cleanmgr

 

The Disk Cleanup window will have a button Clean up system files, click on that.  If you see gigabytes of stuff listed it may be that your C drive is nearly full because the updates have left a lot of junk behind, which can affect your swap space and slow your system down.

The downside to deleting all this is you probably won't be able to roll back your updates/upgrades.  You may want to do a backup beforehand.

Personal note: if I had the need to roll back my Windows installation I would not do it with a utility, I would restore from a backup and redo the whole thing.

 

After my experience with the 1803 "involuntary spruce up" I wrote about above (my 1803 installation was 'peculiar' from the start) I just might try the same thing with future Win versions.

 

 

[Daffy D]

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

You can try opening a terminal window (what used to be called a DOS prompt) and run

cleanmgr

I do that on regular basis, about once week through right click on "C" Properties - Disk Cleanup. I also clean out all but the last Restore Point at the same time ,so my drive is never more than half full.

 

I did my regular scan with "Advanced System Care" and apart from the usual stuff it cleans out it showed about 8 "System Optimization" problems, so I let it get on with that and the system does seem to be running better now. (Imagination?) 

 

I did notice in Disk Management it shows "C" as having 4 partitions 

"C" 236GB Healthy 

500MB System Reserve

502MB System Recovery

847MB System Recovery

Don't know where they all came from.

 

Had this install for some years and must be full of hidden junk by now, time I think time for a new clean install. 

 

 

 

 

 

[bendejo]

59 minutes ago, Daffy D said:

I did notice in Disk Management it shows "C" as having 4 partitions 

"C" 236GB Healthy 

I have only one small FAT32 partition before my C drive that I did not put there, though I had 2 before my 1803 refurb.  My guess is it has something to do with licensing.

I have a boatload of partitions between my 2 disks, the English alphabet needs more letters!  I use Aomei partition assistant.

 

 

[Daffy D]

Hmm!

I notice in Macrium Reflect it shows drive "C" as having the 4 partitions but when going to the back-up page it only checks 2 of the partitions. Presumably it only backs up those 2 checked making the other 2 redundant

Maybe one day I'll try a test back-up to a another drive just to see what is actually going on.

 

Meanwhile as it all seems to be working, think I'll just leave well alone till I buy a new SSD and do a all new install on that.

 

By swapping the drives in and out I can take my time with the new install without worrying about if things go wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

[bendejo]

Daffy:

Try mounting these other partitions and have a peek inside.

 

 

[Pib]

Yes, it will only backup the partitions you have checked.  You just need to check the other two partitions assuming you want to image the whole drive.

[robblok]

Wondering why i am at version 1803

December 19, 2018—KB4483234 (OS Build 17134.472)

[Pib]

16 minutes ago, robblok said:

Wondering why i am at version 1803

December 19, 2018—KB4483234 (OS Build 17134.472)

Who knows.  If you want to update just go to below and click Update Now and it will start the update process from 1803 to 1809.   Will take about an hour.  That's how I did it a few weeks ago on both my Lenovo laptops when they had been offered the update yet....somewhere in MS's queue.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[Pib]

On 12/26/2018 at 6:26 AM, bendejo said:

Daffy:

Try mounting these other partitions and have a peek inside.

 

 

Those two partitions labeled, #3 and #4, are "Recovery" partitions created during past Win 10 installs/upgrades.   By upgrades I mean like going from Win 8 to Win 10.  Only one will be currently active from the most recent Win 10 install/upgrade; the other one is no longer used....just taking up space.

 

 

[bendejo]

12 hours ago, Pib said:

Those two partitions labeled, #3 and #4, are "Recovery" partitions created during past Win 10 installs/upgrades.   By upgrades I mean like going from Win 8 to Win 10.  Only one will be currently active from the most recent Win 10 install/upgrade; the other one is no longer used....just taking up space.

 

 

 

Do you know what this FAT32 partition is about?

I thought it had to do with MS licensing but I notice Daffy doesn't have one.  My next guess is it has to do with UEFI/GPT housekeeping.

This is on a laptop with Win 10 Home pre-installed (Asus OEM). 

There are also a lot of other partitions on the disk, not included in the graphic.