British woman raped on Koh Phi Phi, Thai man arrested

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, jgarbo said:

Pass out in any country, you're prey.

Male or female.

 

Exception is probably Japan. They are liable to pick you up and put you in a hotel.

[CharlieH]

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[SinCityGr8One]

If found guilty as charged, then mandatory castration. Followed by caning of 10 strikes. Then off to remand for 20 years.

[Formaleins]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

= passed out drunk.

 

Not really the safest way for a woman to act in a third world country.

How dare you! That is a terrible thing to say. I am sure she had all of her wits about her and had not given formal consent for sex in writing in triplicate as is now required when having sex with Western Women. I am sure she also provided her 3 witnesses to ensure that she was not taken advantage of at any time.

I would go so far to say that she probably had a sign around her neck saying "DO NOT RAPE" and "Please help me return to UK on my crowdfunding page"

[hottrader77]

7 hours ago, z42 said:

If it's as open and shut as has been reported, a hefty sentence needs to be levied to show this kind of nonsense won't be covered up like it has been before

This thai man could be the person who raped and killed the couple who died before on death island although they tried and convicted 2 burmese men for that, reason why this guy could be the rapist and killer or co conspirator of the previous couple on death island is he is on the local boat crew and could have been on the other death island by sailing over there , and also on the subject of sentance he should face the firing squad 

[pedro01]

Interesting to see all the victim blamers here talk about the way the woman was dressed. How it was a bit of an invitation to be raped.

 

Interesting mostly because the news report doesn't mention what she was wearing.

[zhangxifu]

8 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

What's the difference between ordinary Thai women and Thai hookers? Hookers tend to have lots of flesh on show, or are wearing figure-hugging clothing, this advertises their availability.

 

Topless sunbathing is frowned upon in conservative Thailand, although the Thais are likely to look the other way when it's farang on holiday.

Yes, that's the village mentality. Then there are a millions of very rich city dwelling thais who could not care less about that. They usually go for holidays abroad. After I saw how things are run on PhiPhi it's hard for me to understand who would actually wan't to go there.

[zhangxifu]

42 minutes ago, hottrader77 said:

This thai man could be the person who raped and killed the couple who died before on death island although they tried and convicted 2 burmese men for that, reason why this guy could be the rapist and killer or co conspirator of the previous couple on death island is he is on the local boat crew and could have been on the other death island by sailing over there , and also on the subject of sentance he should face the firing squad 

You've missed a few details there, Sherlock! Are you suggesting he used the Krabi channel while sailing between the islands on his murderous travels of plunder and pillage? Also, firing squads are not used in Thailand.

[bhatmasterson]

8 hours ago, John Sutherland said:

Where did the Irishman go. Nice of him to leave her passed out in public, rather than make sure she is safe.

The article said "she had been out drinking with an Irish man and fell asleep outside a restaurant on Loh Dalum beach." Didn't say she left with him, before him or after him.

[Skallywag]

7 hours ago, silver sea said:

It’s already been picked up by the UK press and they have provided additional background information:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6935257/British-backpacker-21-raped-passing-drunk-Thai-holiday-island.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed

How long does it take to remember or "feel" you have been raped?  

From dailymail article above.  "She initially could not remember anything about the incident when she woke up because she was 'drunk and sleeping'.  Keeps saying "the alleged rape" yet says the man confessed, then says alleged rape again.  Then says "She came with no actual evidence of the incident, so the investigators took her to the hospital for her body to be checked in order to find traces of sexual abuse."  

That was Monday  - 3 days ago. Did the hospital find semen?  or DNA evidence? Anything?  When did she realize she was raped?  Was it after she heard about the man who confessed?   

 

 

[mauGR1]

51 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Interesting to see all the victim blamers here talk about the way the woman was dressed. How it was a bit of an invitation to be raped.

 

Interesting mostly because the news report doesn't mention what she was wearing.

I don't think what she was wearing is important, but passing out drunk on the beach at night is not a great idea.

Also, South Thailand is notorious for similar crimes.

If you want to call it "victim blaming" , so be it.

Btw, there is a news article in this thread which describes how the assailant used scissors to cut the woman's shorts.

[sandrabbit]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Have they released the results of the blood test to see if she was drugged? 

 

If not, the rush to judgement is pretty profound. 

 

BTW, the revised, updated coverage paints a very different picture of what happened than the OP.

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30367895

 

no one is listening to you, if that report is true the her and the Irishman did nothing wrong and neither deserve abuse. 

[impulse]

Never mind...

 

 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

How long does it take to remember or "feel" you have been raped?  

From dailymail article above.  "She initially could not remember anything about the incident when she woke up because she was 'drunk and sleeping'.  Keeps saying "the alleged rape" yet says the man confessed, then says alleged rape again.  Then says "She came with no actual evidence of the incident, so the investigators took her to the hospital for her body to be checked in order to find traces of sexual abuse."  

That was Monday  - 3 days ago. Did the hospital find semen?  or DNA evidence? Anything?  When did she realize she was raped?  Was it after she heard about the man who confessed?   

 

Depends on whether they put something dodgy into the buckets you've been drinking from.  Not unheard of in this part of the world.  (your linked article says they were drinking from buckets until 1:00 AM, but it conflicts with other linked articles in some of the details, like where the assault took place)

 

I hope part of the evidence they collected was a blood sample to see if she'd been drugged.  Though, I can understand if she was reluctant to give a sample for fear of being banged up for drug use in LOS.

 

[Destiny1990]

No online uproar from Thais about this Thai tourist killer.

 

[Andrew65]

6 hours ago, TPI said:

You need to get around more, didn't you see the mothers, wives and girlfriends getting very wet this Songkran, they didn't seem to mind flashing a little leg or underwear in the street! Hookers?? don't you know that selling sex is forbidden in LOS?

Thankfully I didn't see them, this has been my first Songkhran not in Thailand for ages.

 

What you say is rather like saying you saw lots of Thai women in swimsuits by the swimming pool, and, shock-horror, they weren't prossies! Please try to keep in context. What I said doesn't mean that all women who show flesh are hookers.

 

Like many things in Thailand, selling sex is legal de-facto, law enforcement's a joke.

[RJRS1301]

15 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

No excuse for the low life, he should do hard time if convicted. Woman's parents should be punished for the poor job they did for raising such a stupid person.

The woman had right to be safe no matter what state of sobriety she wasin

What warped sense makes her parents responsible for the actions of a rapist. Whether the woman drunk or not is nothing to do with the action of rapist

[faraday]

Some quite confused - to be polite -replies on here, & one comment about her:

 

"parents should be punished...& stupid girl"......

 

Astonishing!

 

 

Everyone needs to keep themselves safe, & we don't have any 'rights' in this, at times, harsh world.

 

However, she did not deserve this.

 

The level of immaturity of some posters on here....I can see why you have problems in your lives.

 

 

[RJRS1301]

Turns out she was in her hotel room, not a public place.

poor reporting source 

Need a fact checker

[metisdead]

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[ttrd]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

Turns out she was in her hotel room, not a public place.

poor reporting source 

Need a fact checker

First she slept outside the pub/restaurant, then she fall asleep in her hotel room.

 

First rape and then attempted rape ...

 

If you attempt to rape then you use force - you don't perform a wai and kindly ask if she can have sex with you and when she refuse by screaming you leave ....

 

Yes, he violated her privacy - yes he destroyed her Denim shorts, but this was all that happened. Nothing more - nothing less ...

 

 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

Turns out she was in her hotel room, not a public place.

poor reporting source 

Need a fact checker

 

This article has the re-enactment taking place outdoors. 

 

Poor reporting indeed.  They can't seem to agree from one reporter to the next.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6935257/British-backpacker-21-raped-passing-drunk-Thai-holiday-island.html

[Benmart]

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

= passed out drunk.

 

Not really the safest way for a woman to act in a third world country.

Did you interview her? Did you see her BAC report from the police/hospital? Are you her guardian or relative who monitors her behavior? If not, your imperious comments are without factual merit.

[kiwikeith]

19 hours ago, Maejo Man said:

At least she escaped with her life unlike the other poor lass.

 

18 hours ago, Pravda said:

 

Obviously he wasn't finished drinking

maybe he went to the bar to get another drink and forgot where she was.

[Lucius verus]

I wouldn't like to be in her shoes when the medical check results are sent to her.

[Skallywag]

News article from The Nation says it was an "attempted" rape in a hotel room, she screamed and he fled...I guess having CCTV didnt help the facts in the first news stories - or is it a cover up

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30367895

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Benmart said:

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

= passed out drunk.

 

Not really the safest way for a woman to act in a third world country.

Did you interview her? Did you see her BAC report from the police/hospital? Are you her guardian or relative who monitors her behavior? If not, your imperious comments are without factual merit.

 

A young British backpacker was raped after passing out drunk on a Thai holiday island while celebrating the country's new year, it emerged today. 

 

The 21-year-old woman had travelled alone and was drinking with a male friend, from Ireland, on Koh Phi Phi off the coast of Krabi in southern Thailandon April 14.

 

Having taken part in mass water fights, they returned home in the early hours of the morning on April 15 but could not make it back to their hostel and slumped on the ground outside a restaurant. 

 

Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6935257/British-backpacker-21-raped-passing-drunk-Thai-holiday-island.html

 

You may want to save your indignation for a better case...

 

[impulse]

24 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

News article from The Nation says it was an "attempted" rape in a hotel room, she screamed and he fled...I guess having CCTV didnt help the facts in the first news stories - or is it a cover up

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30367895

 

Contradicted by this Daily Mail article, that says she was attacked outdoors...  Going on to say that she and her Irish drinking partner couldn't quite make it to their hostel room and slumped to the ground outside a restaurant.  Where the CCTV caught the act.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6935257/British-backpacker-21-raped-passing-drunk-Thai-holiday-island.html

[Machiavelli]

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

= passed out drunk.

 

Not really the safest way for a woman to act in a third world country.

If a woman passes out drunk in Paris after midnight, the same thing would happen. Don't put race into everything. You are probably very old. Go well. 

[from the home of CC]

7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

The woman had right to be safe no matter what state of sobriety she wasin

What warped sense makes her parents responsible for the actions of a rapist. Whether the woman drunk or not is nothing to do with the action of rapist

This isn't about rights, this is about making safety a number one priority in a very dangerous world.

I'm talking about street proofing your kid, instilling a little common sense which is obviously sadly lacking from most parents now, given the outright stupidity that is being displayed these days by their children. You have to be brain dead to think that anywhere in the world women have a right to drink themselves unconscious and lie on the street and not expect to get molested by some monster. A fact of life (for people that actually live life) is that a large number of males in this world are a**holes. Even in the super nanny countries all public safety officials strongly discourage females to set themselves up this way. She probably grew up watching her parents get sloshed in the pub and thinks using ethyl alcohol excessively is an innocent pastime. That's a bad lesson to be taught to a young woman in these times for the rapist/molester is always there watching just waiting for an opportunity. Through a lack of preparation (from mommy and daddy) and a real ignorance concerning the use of alcohol, she served her self up to a sexual criminal. As one poster already remarked, not much different than getting pissed drunk and leaving your money lying around, rapists like thieves don't need a lot of temptation.