Carnage in Rayong: Caused by a rescue vehicle going through a red light on way to another accident

[cardinalblue]

Yes slow down entering intersection but Thai drivers do not respect and react accordingly to emergency vehicles....

 

drivers don’t stop or pull over whether emergency cars or pedestrians...

 driving as an individual not as part of a functional system working together 

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, mike787 said:

How long have you Physically been in Thailand?  Are you aware of Thai driving habits and world Stats?

22 years, how about you? Yes, I am, but that is not a valid excuse in my book.

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, worrab said:

I would suggest you do not make posts like this unless you are 100% sure of what you are talking about

You are free to suggest what ever you wish-

[Samuel Smith]

58 minutes ago, Chazar said:

Amazed you actually got 3  likes and a laugh

The laugh was a pi$$take ???? 

[Russell17au]

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

1. How canyou even starttalking about advanceddriver courses,whentheydo noteven have basic ones, that makes people understand to look for, listen to and give way for emergency viechles. It doesn´t matter how good they drive, if other drivers do not let them.

 

2. Not blind at all. What I see is that they try to blame the driver of the emergency viechle. If it is in the title or not is totally irrelevant. What is very relevant is that nobody ever care to driv to the side or stop for emgency viechles.

 

3. Ys they were doing all the wrong that they possibly could. They did not listen to the emergency viechle. They did not look at it. You have a long time to both see and hear, so you have time to give way. The only thing they was looking at, was the green light in the intersection.

The driver of the emergency viechle was doing all he possibly could to get to his victim/s as he should, but was stopped by idiots.

You are talking a load of rubbish. I am a qualified emergency vehicle driver for both Rescue and Fire vehicles from Australia and every driver is trained to proceed with caution when entering any intersection through a red light. You do not have exclusive right of way in an emergency. You must proceed with caution at all times. Yes, you do have right of way but that does not give you the right to just barge through traffic causing damage to other vehicles and possible injuries to other people.

[Almer]

So an ambulance lights flashing patiently at a red light with a patient in agony in the back, but a recovery truck going to collect a damaged vehicle ( if that was the case) goes through a red light at speed, what a mixed up place this is.

Edited July 3, 2019 by Almer
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[Russell17au]

11 minutes ago, Almer said:

So an ambulance lights flashing patiently at a red light with a patient in agony in the back, but a recovery truck going to collect a damaged vehicle ( if that was the case) goes through a red light at speed, what a mixed up place this is.

The ambulance can go through the red light but it must do so with caution. Most of the ones that I see here are normally stuck behind vehicles that will not move over for them to give them a clear road. It was not a vehicle recovery truck but a closed in rescue vehicle.

[geoffbezoz]

Obviously wrong amulets plastered across the dashboard and insufficient crap hanging from the rear view mirror didn't protect them or their victims.  Luckily no one died.    B+ Must try harder

[Briggsy]

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

22 years, how about you? Yes, I am, but that is not a valid excuse in my book.

I don't believe you have spent 22 years in Thailand and could be so ignorant of the character and driving habits of these "rescue foundation" hoodlems. 

 

Just as an example, is it common in other countries for "rescue services" to have shoot-outs with "rescue services" from neighbouring districts to decide who controls that particular stretch of road? I am talking about real shoot-outs here with guns and bullets and victims.

 

Is it common for "rescue service ambulances" to have no equipment in the "ambulance" except for stickers and flashing lights or for the "paramedics" to have no training nor accountability?

 

Is it the best way forward to have a monopoly for "ambulance services" funded by and protected by superstitious local Chinese-Thai godfathers so that malpractice continues unabated?

[worrab]

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

You are free to suggest what ever you wish-

But what I said must be right though as qualified Emergency Response Drivers have stated the same rulings.

[Matzzon]

27 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

I don't believe you have spent 22 years in Thailand

Up to you.

[Golden Triangle]

Here is the video of the accident, I use the term 'accident' very loosely 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/814593008651365/videos/718766695247347/ 

[chickenslegs]

8 hours ago, Mavideol said:

understand they are supposed to slow down at intersections,  however people (walking and/or driving) are supposed to pull over when hearing a rescue vehicle siren

Something I have noticed here in thailand - sirens on emergency vehicles are very quiet.

[monkeycu]

Was the rescue driver auditioning for a part in Fast and Furious

Or Land of the Demented 

Edited July 3, 2019 by monkeycu

[marcusarelus]

17 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

Something I have noticed here in thailand - sirens on emergency vehicles are very quiet.

You can sure hear them in Rayong.  I guess you have never been there.  

[monkeycu]

3 hours ago, firefox999uk said:

I write this as being an Emergency Vehicle Driver in the UK for over 30 years....

 

Red traffic lights on the way to an emergency should be treated as a give way sign

 

And proceed only with extreme caution.

 

Most emergency vehicles i see in Thailand do this, some even stop at red lights.

 

The biggest thing when driving to an emergency is to control the adrenaline rush that

occurs in the body as it can make you blind to obvious dangers.

 

In the UK,  Emergency vehicle drivers have to undergo an intense 10 day refresher course

every 2 years which involves driving in all conditions, you are assessed every second of the course.

 

Seems to me that this driver involved in the incident did everything wrong….but can you blame him

if he has never been trained….this is the biggest problem in Thailand.

 

 

 

 

Have a Nice Day.

But this is Thailand so just sit back, chill out and watch the carnage from a safe place

[chickenslegs]

3 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

You can sure hear them in Rayong.  I guess you have never been there.  

Passed through many times, but never seen/heard an emergency vehicle on a call out. Maybe I've just been lucky.

[Bert got kinky]

12 hours ago, Matzzon said:

22 years, how about you? Yes, I am, but that is not a valid excuse in my book.

 

22 years

 

 

Edited July 3, 2019 by Bert got kinky

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

A Sawang Porn Kuson (Rayong) foundation rescue driver Natchaphon Raksakit said he had been responding to a call about an accident in Nata Khwan.

Idiotic driving!

[Isaanbiker]

It's the rescue driver who was 100 % at fault. 

[Matzzon]

3 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

22 years

 

 

Are you saying that I am a liar?

Edited July 4, 2019 by Matzzon

[brianthainess]

Around this neck of the woods we have rescue service motor bikes (as well as trucks) being driven by young men, lights flashing, very fast no helmets and looking at their Phones,......no more to say really 'cept  they seem full of self importance.

[LennyW]

Just watched the video, yes for sure the rescue truck was travelling fast, at the time the looked like he had a clear shot, but the speed the pick up came through from the left lane the rescue truck had no chance.

 

Edited July 4, 2019 by LennyW

[Bert got kinky]

21 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Are you saying that I am a liar?

 

If I wrote what I think know you are I would either be given a long holiday or banned outright, so your status is protected by the forum rules.

 

However, anyone that has been in Thailand for more than 20 minutes will know more about Thailand than you have learned during your (supposed) 22 years here.

They will make their own mind’s up about whether they believe you or not and judging by the reactions of some of the long term ex-pats to your ‘strange’ beliefs and posts, I would not hold my breath while waiting for a fan club to form.  

 

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

If I wrote what I think know you are I would either be given a long holiday or banned outright, so your status is protected by the forum rules.

 

However, anyone that has been in Thailand for more than 20 minutes will know more about Thailand than you have learned during your (supposed) 22 years here.

They will make their own mind’s up about whether they believe you or not and judging by the reactions of some of the long term ex-pats to your ‘strange’ beliefs and posts, I would not hold my breath while waiting for a fan club to form.  

 

Oh dear! I am not here to form any fun club. And just because I do not share an opinion, means that you can compare my knowledge after 22 years to 20 minutes. You must be a very fun chap to be around.

[rickudon]

Yes, it would be nice if everyone got out of the way of emergency vehicles, but it isn't that easy. First, you have to hear it. Not everyone has good hearing, and some may have music on loud. Second, you have to know what direction it is coming from and going to. Not easy to ascertain until it is close. Thirdly, you need somewhere to pull over to. Many Thai roads and the many motorbikes leave no room for manoeuvre. Junctions can be blocked because exits are congested. You cannot just assume that people will get out of your way.

 

When you do add in poor driving skills and Thai egos, crossing a red light at a junction at high speed is tantamount to murder. Emergency vehicle or not.

[overherebc]

On 7/3/2019 at 12:41 PM, Matzzon said:

What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish.

All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said.
 

No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens.

Don't post crap.

Emergency vehicles should approach all hazards with caution and allow other vehicles time to react.

[Artisi]

On 7/3/2019 at 12:41 PM, Matzzon said:

What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish.

All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said.
 

No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens.

What an absolute load of bull sh1t, a duty of care comes with the use of emergency sirens and lights. 

The driver is in the wrong, no if's, bit's, or maybe's.