3rd Road construction creates traffic chaos

[Rimmer]

3rd Road construction creates traffic chaos

 

PATTAYA:-- Pattaya motorists complained that poor planning and communication about ongoing roadwork on Third Road is creating traffic chaos.

Traffic came to a standstill for part of Dec. 13 as workers burying power and communications lines laid conduits across the busy thoroughfare.

The work is part of the Provincial Electricity Authority’s long-running project to submerge ugly wires across the city. The roadwork was previously announced, but frustrated motorists said it wasn’t communicated enough.

Drivers also groused about a lack of traffic police to redirect vehicles to detours.

Everyone stuck in gridlock moaned that city hall and the PEA need to do a better job of publicizing roadwork times and detours as well as manage traffic.

 

See more: https://www.pattayamail.com/featured/3rd-road-construction-creates-traffic-chaos-280980

-- PATTAYA MAIL 2019-12-20--

[Golden Triangle]

I don't drive in town too often thank gawd, if the need to lay stuff right across the carriageway why can they not do this in the early hours when there is less traffic ? 

 

Yes I realise people are sleeping but surely there aren't many sleeping in the area if it's started about 10 pm and on wards for a few hours spread over a few days ? 

[NanLaew]

59 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

Drivers also groused about a lack of traffic police to redirect vehicles to detours.

With the overall invisibility of ANY police in Pattaya, apart from the helmet check on Beach right outside their station and the uncontrolled double-parked tour buses on Beach, why would anyone expect traffic police specifically on Third road specifically in Pattaya specifically?

Edited December 20, 2019 by NanLaew

[JusticeGB]

They have been putting these underground wires in Pattaya Klang for the last 2 or 3 years but I haven't seen any ugly cables removed from the streets to the expensive underground channels!

[scubascuba3]

Third road has loads of chicanes the last week or two. Not enough direction warning signs etc, as expected tbh 

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

They have been putting these underground wires in Pattaya Klang for the last 2 or 3 years but I haven't seen any ugly cables removed from the streets to the expensive underground channels!

I believe this is the 3rd spell of roadworks on Pattaya Klang, all of which have been attributed to cable burying! Even my attempts to bypass roadworks were thwarted recently as the alleys through, to go behind Sophon, or to get to Bong Koch and Arunothai were also closed off. The large coaches trying to find ways through also make effective road closures. 

It is quite a mess.....for Christmas. 

[Langsuan Man]

Seriously, it's not like they have union problems that keep them from working at night, just laziness

 

Didn't have problems working at night on the Tunnel, when faced with big fines for not keep on schedule, so it can be done but there has to be a will but no one cares unless it costs them money 

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, Langsuan Man said:

Seriously, it's not like they have union problems that keep them from working at night, just laziness

 

Didn't have problems working at night on the Tunnel, when faced with big fines for not keep on schedule, so it can be done but there has to be a will but no one cares unless it costs them money 

Too dangerous on third road with all the drunks. Beach road drainage work would be ok at night

[Don Mega]

30 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I believe this is the 3rd spell of roadworks on Pattaya Klang, all of which have been attributed to cable burying! Even my attempts to bypass roadworks were thwarted recently as the alleys through, to go behind Sophon, or to get to Bong Koch and Arunothai were also closed off. The large coaches trying to find ways through also make effective road closures. 

It is quite a mess.....for Christmas. 

Christmas is just another week of the day for Thai's.

 

Am sure you will be able to find your Christmas lunch at another more accessible beer bar.

[Don Mega]

16 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

They have been putting these underground wires in Pattaya Klang for the last 2 or 3 years but I haven't seen any ugly cables removed from the streets to the expensive underground channels!

Aren't most of those hanging on poles from internet and cable companies ?

 

[mikebell]

19 hours ago, Rimmer said:

a lack of traffic police to redirect vehicles to

the nearest robbing spot; another source of congestion.  I've stopped going to Tesco because of greedy police sealing off the entrance to Thepprasit.

[RichardColeman]

19 hours ago, Rimmer said:

Drivers also groused about a lack of traffic police to redirect vehicles to detours.

You'd need to have a death wish to stand in Thai roads directing traffic

[mickey rat]

Peak season is the best time for starting such projects! ????

Edited December 21, 2019 by mickey rat

[topt]

1 hour ago, mickey rat said:

Peak season is the best time for starting such projects! ????

Possibly because it is also the driest season......

[hotchilli]

22 hours ago, Rimmer said:

Third Road is creating traffic chaos.

If it's not chaos it's not Thailand.

[lonewolf99]

On both sides of Jomtien 2nd road for its entire length it has 24 x 6 inch diameter conduit pipes buried under the pavement on both sides of the road.

 

There is not one cable pulled through them. 

 

How do I know this? I basically lived in Jomtien for the entire time that road was constructed and witnessed the mess. There are miles and miles of conduit laid in Pattaya and Jomtien but no cables are pulled through them. Why? It is easier just to stay above ground and drag the cables for several kilometers in one long run on the power poles, instead of using the underground pullboxes that in some cases are only (stupidly) yards apart.

The other (main) reason the conduits are there is because "someone" has the contract to install them and "must" be paid.

But no one has the desire or even the knowledge of how to use them.

TiT.

 

 

[tinca tinca]

any detour signs NEED TO BE IN ENGLISH  !!!.....

if they erect any.....???????????

[jacko45k]

22 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Christmas is just another week of the day for Thai's.

 

Am sure you will be able to find your Christmas lunch at another more accessible beer bar.

New Year, which is still in the Christmas period, most certainly is not.

I believe City Hall has ordered all these road works be suspended over the peak period, so, presuming they tidy up before moving away, it will ease. 

[Langsuan Man]

14 hours ago, tinca tinca said:

any detour signs NEED TO BE IN ENGLISH  !!!.....

if they erect any.....???????????

You mean that tree branch laid on the road isn't good enough for you to know that it's a detour ????

[brianthainess]

Lack of planing and no communication between departments is the norm. About 6 mth ago a road  was widened near where i live, and yet AGAIN power poles were left in the middle of the new cement, after someone on a M/C came around the sweeping bend and drove into one, solution was to wrap some red plastic around them.  They are now putting in new poles and i presume will now cut up the new concrete to hopefully remove them, maybe they will refill the holes smoothly but ? A Transport of Delight.

 

Edited December 22, 2019 by brianthainess
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[Don Mega]

speaking of roadworks, any idea if the bypass will be finished anytime soon

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/20/2019 at 7:49 PM, Rimmer said:

Pattaya motorists complained that poor planning and communication about ongoing roadwork on Third Road is creating traffic chaos.

 

Has there EVER been a road project ( or indeed ANY public project ) in Pattaya that was planned properly?

That's what happens when one contracts the usual suspects for the usual reasons to do the work.

 

Third Rd was a disaster in the making from the day they built a 4 lane road through empty land instead of a 6 lane road. I was there before they built it so I know what it was built through. I said at the time they were making a mistake.

They didn't need to make a 3 lane each way road at the start, but they could have reserved the land to build it wider in the future.

Seems they were just as incompetent back then as now.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/21/2019 at 10:03 PM, lonewolf99 said:

On both sides of Jomtien 2nd road for its entire length it has 24 x 6 inch diameter conduit pipes buried under the pavement on both sides of the road.

 

There is not one cable pulled through them. 

 

How do I know this? I basically lived in Jomtien for the entire time that road was constructed and witnessed the mess. There are miles and miles of conduit laid in Pattaya and Jomtien but no cables are pulled through them. Why? It is easier just to stay above ground and drag the cables for several kilometers in one long run on the power poles, instead of using the underground pullboxes that in some cases are only (stupidly) yards apart.

The other (main) reason the conduits are there is because "someone" has the contract to install them and "must" be paid.

But no one has the desire or even the knowledge of how to use them.

TiT.

 

 

You misunderstand why public works are done in LOS if you think it's to make things better:-)

Besides, if they actually got rid of the power poles where would they put the next hundred phone wires they need to run?

Out near my wife's village they just left them lying on the ground, but that might not work in a city.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/22/2019 at 4:15 PM, Don Mega said:

speaking of roadworks, any idea if the bypass will be finished anytime soon

You dreamer you.

[jacko45k]

19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Besides, if they actually got rid of the power poles where would they put the next hundred phone wires they need to run?

Modern phones don't use wires..... when not on charge. Apparently with the advent of 5G all these cables become redundant, just the power ones required and they are getting buried, for the 4th or 5th time, on Klang.

[tinca tinca]

On 12/22/2019 at 9:09 AM, Langsuan Man said:

You mean that tree branch laid on the road isn't good enough for you to know that it's a detour ????

good reply.....depends which way the tree is pointed, if it points to the right I would go left....if to the left I would go right, as probably who ever laid it as a pointer possibly would not know which direction the detour should/would be !!

[Don Mega]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You dreamer you.

Thats what I figured, they dug up the road near Soi Khao Talo what seems like 5 years ago !!

[topt]

On 12/22/2019 at 10:15 AM, Don Mega said:

speaking of roadworks, any idea if the bypass will be finished anytime soon

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You dreamer you.

If you are referring to the spur off the 7 with a spur that connects to Suk past the Ambassador then it was recently announced completion/opening would be August 2020 - however it was always 2020 from the get go but that would not fit some posters narrative........

 

If another bypass please enlighten me........

[Don Mega]

3 minutes ago, topt said:

 

If you are referring to the spur off the 7 with a spur that connects to Suk past the Ambassador then it was recently announced completion/opening would be August 2020 - however it was always 2020 from the get go but that would not fit some posters narrative........

 

If another bypass please enlighten me........

Iam talking about the Pattaya Bypass which runs parallel to the rail line, not the 7 motorway extension.

[topt]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

Iam talking about the Pattaya Bypass which runs parallel to the rail line, not the 7 motorway extension.

OK thanks.

Isn't that what is know as the Railway road? I haven't used it for at least a year but don't remember any major roadworks. Are they supposed to be doing something to it?