Action needed now to save "filthy, dangerous, rip-off, vice ridden" Pattaya, says watchdog

[webfact]

Action needed now to save "filthy, dangerous, rip-off, vice ridden" Pattaya, says watchdog

 

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Pattaya Watchdog have slammed the resort for doing nothing to improve its infrastructure and image. They said it may already be too late to save Pattaya but action is needed now. 

 

They published a huge list of reasons why tourists are not going to Pattaya any more.

 

Reasons why in these transparent, social media times savvy tourists are choosing to go elsewhere for beach holidays like Cambodia and Vietnam, and even Bali. 

 

It is not all about price, they said on Facebook, comparing Pattaya to having a coffee at Starbucks. Even if it is more expensive than the competition people might still come if they like the quality, flavor, cleanliness and atmosphere of Starbucks. 

 

They then went on to list a litany of problems that have built up in Pattaya over the years; problems that are stopping repeat visits, they said. 

 

The message was clear: Pattaya was no Starbucks. 

 

Pulling no punches they itemised the following:

 

Rip offs for transport

 

Dirty beaches

 

Prostitutes and scary vagrants loitering about everywhere

 

Terrible traffic including tour buses creating danger entering narrow sois

 

Litter everywhere since widespread refuse collection disputes in 2016 - 2017

 

Holes in uneven sidewalks littered with bricks and breeze blocks - all making tourist injuries common

 

CCTV that doesn't work making crime solving problematical

 

A useless transport system including baht buses that rip people off

 

They said Pattaya was inconvenient. 

 

Not nearly enough had been spent on good public utilities - and when money was spent it was done on the cheap. 

 

It had been known for being cheap but what if other, better places were cheaper, what then?

 

Their opinion piece said that action was needed NOW to save Pattaya.

 

They admitted it may already be too late to save Pattaya. 

 

But everyone must at least try and come together in a spirit of cooperation to solve problems.

 

Source: Pattaya Watchdog

 

 

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[steve187]

good luck with trying to tidy up Pattaya

[Bassosa]

I sense something is changing in Thailand....an awareness that "we" can't carry on like this any longer. 

 

But then again, Thais are extremely resilient to change and inconvenient truths. 

Let's wait and see.

Edited January 15, 2020 by Bassosa

[Matzzon]

Just the thought of that they actually let this be, grow and are doing this to inflict pain and suffering on the tourist industry is unfathomable.

 

However, I can sometimes understand the single Thai incidents and many individual Thai citizens actions. That based on the fact of Pattaya as a magnet for criminality and slime of the earth extremely rotten and unwanted foreigner the city seem to attract. If this comment was only based on them, then they could let Pattaya rot and build an unbreakable dome over the city.

 

Ok, as a good thing. I also personally know a bunch of good guys that have settled down in Pattaya, so that does not go for them or anybody else that knows how to behave. it´s just that the city unfortunately seems to attract to much of the wrong people.

Edited January 15, 2020 by Matzzon

[ChipButty]

Does that include Ladyboys?

[RotBenz8888]

16 minutes ago, webfact said:

It is not all about price

Pattaya worked very well 'till the Baht went up....

[CNXexpat]

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

Prostitutes and scary vagrants loitering about everywhere

Isn´t that the reason to come to Pattaya?

[johng]

15 minutes ago, webfact said:

Prostitutes and scary vagrants loitering about everywhere

 Two things,   first  there is no prostitution in Pattaya according to officialdom 

and secondly the red light districts , girly/go-go bars, massage parlours and promenade

(where you find prostitutes both male and female ) are  one of Pattaya biggest attractions !!!

[neeray]

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

Action needed now to save "filthy, dangerous, rip-off, vice ridden" Pattaya, says watchdog

There's certainly no mincing of words in this statement !

That watchdog must be a pit bull ????.

[Bassosa]

1 minute ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Pattaya worked very well 'till the Baht went up....

True. There is a (shrinking) market for sleazy, filthy seaside resorts but Pattaya has unwillingly priced itself out of that market due to the strong baht. The envisioned transition to a respectable family resort town has so far been unconvincing. You would need a clean(ish) beach for that to eventuate, and then deal with the raft of other issues.

[Pattaya46]

No idea who is this "Pattaya Watchdog" but looks like someone who clearly doesn't like Pattaya and tries to make its image far worse than reality !

Most the points he states are just BS ! 

[worgeordie]

23 minutes ago, webfact said:

"filthy, dangerous, rip-off, vice ridden" Pattaya, says watchdog

I have never been there, but I thought it was a World class family resort,

well according to TAT.

regards Worgeordie

 

[Rookiescot]

Prostitutes in Pattaya?

But thats illegal in Thailand.

[OneMoreFarang]

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

filthy, dangerous, rip-off, vice ridden

And I though filthy and vice-ridden is part of the attraction.

Imagine Pattaya without Soi 6.

[Kemp87]

Tourist numbers aren’t down because of how Pattaya is! Pattaya’s always been rough round the edges, for some people the chaos is part of the lure! It’s performed well in the past when it was rougher! Numbers are down because of rising costs! Same as Phuket!

That “useless transport system” including Those “rip off” 10 baht baht buses that take you everywhere are so awful ???? get a grip!!

[RotBenz8888]

10 minutes ago, CNXexpat said:

Isn´t that the reason to come to Pattaya?

Like taking away casinos from Las Vegas, who'd wanna go there?

[johng]

2 minutes ago, Kemp87 said:

Those “rip off” 10 baht baht buses that take you everywhere are so awful

Yes the baht buses are fine when you stick to their normal set routes..it can get a bit  rip-offy if you need them to go somewhere out of the norm...not to mention the  "metered Taxis"  that won't use the meter even after all these years of announcements and crackdowns !!!

[RotBenz8888]

There are a huge number  of beaches in Thailand and around the world, why pick Pattaya? Because of the sexy girls. Take away that, and Pattaya is nothing. Stick to what you're good at.

[smedly]

42 minutes ago, webfact said:

A useless transport system including baht buses that rip people off

MB taxi's are worse, when I show them the official fare tariffs (which I have on my phone) it becomes threatening, many of them are also drunk after 1am, what is the point of people using public transport to avoid drink driving when the actual taxi drivers are <deleted>

[Genmai]

32 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

However, I can sometimes understand the single Thai incidents and many individual Thai citizens actions. That based on the fact of Pattaya as a magnet for criminality and slime of the earth extremely rotten and unwanted foreigner the city seem to attract.

 

You conveniently left out any mention of 1) what specifically there is about this place that attracts those sorts of undesirables and 2) who made it what it is and continues to benefit from the status quo. Despicable foreign parasites do not exist in a vacuum. 

[smedly]

can we also add the noise levels created by scooters with no exhaust - must be 1 in 5 now and the noise is horrendous - it also encourages them to drive like lunatics all over the city

[petermik]

LOS (land of smiles) no.....LOB (land of b**l**it) it is....talk talk no action

[bkk6060]

I am here for all the reasons listed.  Especially number 3.

 

[petermik]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

can we also add the noise levels created by scooters with no exhaust - must be 1 in 5 now and the noise is horrendous - it also encourages them to drive like lunatics all over the city

it makes them feel important if folks look at them....SPS and all that

[petermik]

7 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I am here for all the reasons listed.  Especially number 3.

 

And I,m with you....

[jacko45k]

39 minutes ago, johng said:

 Two things,   first  there is no prostitution in Pattaya according to officialdom 

and secondly the red light districts , girly/go-go bars, massage parlours and promenade

(where you find prostitutes both male and female ) are  one of Pattaya biggest attractions !!!

Hasn't this tired old line been used up yet?

 

34 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Prostitutes in Pattaya?

But thats illegal in Thailand.

Apparently not!

[bendejo]

32 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Does that include Ladyboys?

The Lord High Panjandrum will decide this on a case-by-case basis, each will get a private audience.  (*wink*)

 

Perhaps some sort of nationalist movement might rise up, come to the conclusion that the country's biggest problem is foreigners (a pretty common thing worldwide), then bring their bottle of petrol (remember that one from 10 years ago?) and torch the place.  That'll change things.

 

 

[upena]

People go to Pattaya for the beach? Who knew?

[Matzzon]

21 minutes ago, Genmai said:

 

You conveniently left out any mention of 1) what specifically there is about this place that attracts those sorts of undesirables and 2) who made it what it is and continues to benefit from the status quo. Despicable foreign parasites do not exist in a vacuum. 

What? How do you know that I took away that information, and left out to mention that? I got everything I wanted to have in my post. You shall not come here and tell me what should have been standing in my post. Write you own one and design it like you want it to be.

 

But ok, let´s go to work:

 

No 1: Don´t know. It can´t be the this people. They are everywhere, but it doesn´t look like this dump in other places. However, there are almost more foreigners in Pattaya than Thais, so I guess it´s the foreigner that created this mess. Time to clean it up!

 

No 2: Out of the info above you already know that. The foreign criminal elements that since decades grown into the core of the city like an terminal disease.

Edited January 15, 2020 by Matzzon

[Orton Rd]

42 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

No idea who is this "Pattaya Watchdog" but looks like someone who clearly doesn't like Pattaya and tries to make its image far worse than reality !

Most the points he states are just BS ! 

You could hardly make it's image worse than reality, the reality is it's always been an open air brothel, and now an expensive one. Apart from tattooed over priced prostitutes there is almost no other reason to go there.