8 minutes ago, vogie said:

Nobody can argue the quality of Belgium beer, I would swap you a kipper for a pint any day.

I don't consider this as a fair deal. ????

8 hours ago, TheDark said:

Unfortunately those brothers of European people represent only 48% of the UK population. 

I think their numbers have reduced since that vote.

 

8 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

I don't consider this as a fair deal. ????

But these are not just ordinary kippers, they are Yorkshire caught kippers.

9 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

fyi

 

those stars do not represent member states

 

opl! did you see that?

 

I was making a point rather than giving a history lesson.

7 hours ago, Salerno said:

Don't forget the lace.

+ Bruegel, belgian comics .. and Brussels sprouts !

7 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Our beers are not that bad, so is our chocolate. 

And as a Belgian pensioner, I am pleased with my monthly 2300 Euro net (Not exceptional in Belgium). 

 

In a fairytale world when the UK stops handing out all our money to lost causes like the EU,  puppet governments around the world, and immigrants that have no jobs and never likely to or their families, we might be able to treat our old people the same.

 

Leaving the EU is a step in the right direction, maybe the Belgians ought to start cutting pensions and start contributing just to see what its like, maybe they will have to soon with no UK money

2 minutes ago, Opl said:

+ Bruegel, belgian comics .. and Brussels sprouts !

Morrisons have said we are out of Brussels, they are now called Yorkshire sprouts.

 

 

9 minutes ago, vogie said:

Yorkshire sprouts.

As sad as 

16 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

As sad as 

But not as sad as Brussel Sprout Lager.????????????

5 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The EU is not Europe

There is no Europe when it comes to 'real' continents -- it is just part of Asia ????  (same tectonic plate, no ocean/sea between).

10 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Our beers are not that bad, so is our chocolate. 

And as a Belgian pensioner, I am pleased with my monthly 2300 Euro net (Not exceptional in Belgium). 

 

And "Unfrozen" pensions no "tricks"needed......and worldwide so...

16 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

You will also have to go in the general line not the expedited EU line.

If you are driving there will be more requirements.

If you bring your mobile phone you will have to be careful since you could be hit by exorbitant charges.

That assumes that I want to travel to Europe in the first place.

16 minutes ago, billd766 said:

That assumes that I want to travel to Europe in the first place.

You probably don't personally but your grandchildren might want to have the freedom to travel and live in Europe, like they used to have. 

4 hours ago, Opl said:

and Brussels sprouts !

Shhhhhhhhhh ... we're trying to talk Belgium up!

13 hours ago, TheDark said:

There are reasonable and humble enough Brits who are able to co-operate together with multiple EU nationalities and people. Unfortunately those brothers of European people represent only 48% of the UK population. 

 

The majority of 52% demands that UK will get as far as possible when it comes to co-operation with people of EU. 

 

 

Was that the 48% Remainers who voted in the Brexit referendum v the 52% of leavers?

 

Results
Votes    %
Leave    17,410,742    51.89%
Remain    16,141,241    48.11%
Valid votes    33,551,983    99.92%
Invalid or blank votes    25,359    0.08%
Total votes    33,577,342    100.00%
Registered voters/turnout    46,500,001    72.21%

 

Did you casually add to the Remain voters numbering 12,918,048 who actually didn't bother to vote at all, and therefore were not counted as Leave or Remain?
 

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Was that the 48% Remainers who voted in the Brexit referendum v the 52% of leavers?

 

Results
Votes    %
Leave    17,410,742    51.89%
Remain    16,141,241    48.11%
Valid votes    33,551,983    99.92%
Invalid or blank votes    25,359    0.08%
Total votes    33,577,342    100.00%
Registered voters/turnout    46,500,001    72.21%

 

Did you casually add to the Remain voters numbering 12,918,048 who actually didn't bother to vote at all, and therefore were not counted as Leave or Remain?
 

What??

16 minutes ago, TheDark said:

You probably don't personally but your grandchildren might want to have the freedom to travel and live in Europe, like they used to have. 

Then they can go back to doing it the way that I and the UK used to do it.

 

It was done before and it worked then, so why won't it work now?

 

It is not so different than Non EU countries who require a valid passport and a visa. It is not that difficult to do but you have to have forward planning, knowledge and patience.

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Then they can go back to doing it the way that I and the UK used to do it.

 

It was done before and it worked then, so why won't it work now?

 

It is not so different than Non EU countries who require a valid passport and a visa. It is not that difficult to do but you have to have forward planning, knowledge and patience.

We all know how lovely it is to have to renew our visas each year. We all know how lovely is it to track down, what visa rules has changed since last year. 

 

Such an wonderful and secure life that is.

 

EU citizens have the ability to live, to work and move around as they wish. I call that freedom, which you so much wanted to be taken away from the youth who are not afraid of others.

7 minutes ago, TheDark said:

We all know how lovely it is to have to renew our visas each year. We all know how lovely is it to track down, what visa rules has changed since last year. 

 

Such an wonderful and secure life that is.

 

EU citizens have the ability to live, to work and move around as they wish. I call that freedom, which you so much wanted to be taken away from the youth who are not afraid of others.

In 1969 I had a French gf, there was nothing 

to stop my visiting her, the difficult part was

remembering to go the wrong way on roundabouts.

So I can't really see your du boeuf.

2 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

In 1969 I had a French gf, there was nothing 

to stop my visiting her, the difficult part was

remembering to go the wrong way on roundabouts.

So I can't really see your du boeuf.

Visiting is quite different compared to living and working in another country.

39 minutes ago, TheDark said:

EU citizens have the ability to live, to work and move around as they wish. I call that freedom, which you so much wanted to be taken away from the youth who are not afraid of others.

And that is the problem as many of the scroungers don't work, claim benefits and contribute very little to the UK society. Not all but those who live in inner cities can see it. It is hardly the cream of Eastern Europe comes to the UK or if they do they don't worry about their value because they are valued.

 

41 minutes ago, TheDark said:

We all know how lovely it is to have to renew our visas each year. We all know how lovely is it to track down, what visa rules has changed since last year.

I did it for 16 years and will do it again when I return. if you work your company should be able to sort that out with ease. If you are on a non O just follow the rules. Yes Thailand protects its people. It is about time the UK did the same and leaving the EU is the start.

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

That assumes that I want to travel to Europe in the first place.

For same reason i dont worry about any acces to U.K......unless Cayman islands for which now ony I.D. card suffice ...lol????

 

My only acces in my lifetime was a co shared return flight by return from Thailand 11years ago ....eg. Lufthansa or B.A. Unfortunnaly it became B.A.  and costoms lady would definatly let check my 2 rings on value other office  ??? ....horrible transport by busses to other terminal.... really 19 th century thing ...Never used a core shared flight anymore ????

11 minutes ago, david555 said:

For same reason i dont worry about any acces to U.K......unless Cayman islands for which now ony I.D. card suffice ...lol????

 

My only acces in my lifetime was a co shared return flight by return from Thailand 11years ago ....eg. Lufthansa or B.A. Unfortunnaly it became B.A.  and costoms lady would definatly let check my 2 rings on value other office  ??? ....horrible transport by busse to other terminal.... really 19 th century thing ...Never used a core shared flight anymore ????

The Maldives rejoined the Commonwealth just one hour after the UK left the EU, smart cookies.

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

The Maldives rejoined the Commonwealth just one hour after the UK left the EU, smart cookies.

They wont be long anymore on the surface  by the oceans rising ...they play safe ...for later easy acces to one of the commonwealth country's i guess ????

8 hours ago, TheDark said:

You probably don't personally but your grandchildren might want to have the freedom to travel and live in Europe, like they used to have. 

My grandchildren, and everybody else's grandchildren will still be able to do that. They will just have to get a job first - preferably a proper job with full expat package. They won't be able to go scrounge in some other country to abuse its benefits system and infrastructure, all at the expense of the local citizens.
Tough but fair.

On 1/31/2020 at 6:47 AM, TheDark said:

Then EU can grant UK that privilege, if it wishes do do so.

Thanks for a perfect illustration of why the UK left the EU. Well done!

Despite what all the remainers and the naysayers have been saying, Nissan UK are saying that if the EU puts any tariffs on their cars they will pull out of France and Spain and concentrate on production of cars in the UK.

 

"Nissan has drawn up a plan to pull out of mainland Europe if Brexit leads to tariffs on car exports — but to double down on the UK, where the Japanese company believes it could sell one in five cars. Two people involved in the discussions said the contingency plan, drawn up late last year, would see Nissan close its struggling Barcelona van facility and stop manufacturing in France."

 

https://www.ft.com/content/c4f0d1e2-4442-11ea-a43a-c4b328d9061c

 

"Don't think that just because you made it to the next level that the haters and naysayers disappear. Remember, new levels bring new devils.”

 

 

On 1/31/2020 at 8:37 PM, Forethat said:

Sounds like you're onto something new here...I'll make sure that our political leaders are aware of that during the next GE campaign. Top tip, if you ask me...

 

The political version of Jacob Marley:

"Boohoooo....a word of caution, leaders: There is nothing more politically dangerous than a failure to deliver on expectations of improvement. Boohoooo"

 

 

As much as I’d like to take credit, I shall not:

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/J-curve-hypothesis

22 hours ago, TheDark said:

We all know how lovely it is to have to renew our visas each year. We all know how lovely is it to track down, what visa rules has changed since last year. 

 

Such an wonderful and secure life that is.

 

EU citizens have the ability to live, to work and move around as they wish. I call that freedom, which you so much wanted to be taken away from the youth who are not afraid of others.

What a load of rubbish you post.

If you want to live, to work and move around as you wish, the only thing that is stopping you is yourself.

 

To get a job in the EU you must look for it yourself, usually through the internet and apply for an interview, and if you are good enough and there are no better qualified people, the company will probably hire you, help you out with a visa, accommodation etc.

 

There are no jobs just given away freely, YOU would have to do the hard work yourself, just like before. 

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As much as I’d like to take credit, I shall not:

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/J-curve-hypothesis

You're telling me you read that and STILL don't understand why the UK voters told the EU-elite to take their little federal-state-to-be-club and shove it where the sun doesn't shine?