Tourists on a motorcycle: Australian couple killed in horror collision in Krabi

[natway09]

If you insist on riding a bike good on ya, but I will not be joinng you.

Driving a car is enough excitement.

Sad end to a holiday & regardless who is wrong another black mark for Thailand

 

[webfact]

Two Australians killed in bike accident

By The Nation

 

 

Two Australians were killed when their motorbike was involved in a crash with a pickup truck in front of the entrance to the hot springs in Klong Thom district, police in Krabi province were informed on Tuesday (February 4) .

 

The deceased were identified as Michael Benk De, 54, and Hei Delin De, 53.

 

 

The pickup truck driver said that the two tourists were riding along with another car, presumably their friends when it crashed into the pickup truck.

 

Police are investigating and collecting evidence.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30381566

 

 

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[Tchooptip]

6 hours ago, bbi1 said:

Just tourists? Why not just ban all foreigners from riding scooters & motorcycles in Thailand.

I am 75 years old, with a perfect sight without glasses, I exercise every day, my blood pressure is most of the time under 12/8, I regularly swim three kilometres with flippers, I am a teetotaller. I started legally with a moped 50 cc at 14 years old, I do not remember not having some sort of motorbike all my life including cross country and trial's ones, a 650cc Yamaha, in my sixties a delirious Italian scooter, a Gilera two-stroke, 180cc which to reach zero to one hundred kilometres hours in six seconds consumed seven litres of mixture each hundred kilometres, and many more over the decades...and with all that you would forbid me to drive a scooter ... but I am a saint ???? to be able to remain polite, dear Sir ???? 

[bluesofa]

3 hours ago, Matzzon said:

6 hours ago, bluesofa said:

I think to be fair we need to reserve judgement until we know all the facts clearly.

There is one thing I find peculiar with your comment. My first question must be if you are blind?

If not, have you been taken a look at the picture that was attached to the news story? Reserve judgement? Are you serious?

You can see where the pickup is standing and where it therefore has been driving. So , the person driving the motorbike made a head on collision in the middle of the wrong side of the road. You actually do not have to be very clever to make a judgement out of that.

But please, do not let me disturb. Go get all your facts you can find to get a clearer picture. ????????

While looking at the picture I can see the result.

It's unnecessary to resort to rudeness by asking if I'm blind, and getting all the facts to get a clearer picture.

 

In the report it quotes only the pickup driver: 'He said that the couple were riding with another couple on another motorcycle when the deceased pair rode into his lane and there was a collision.'

 

There is another possibly (although unlikely) that the motorcyclists could have been driving in the same direction as the pickup, but in front of it. The motorcycle driver could have braked hard for whatever reason and the pickup ploughed into them at high speed.

 

Hence my comment about waiting to know the facts regarding the accident, not just making a judgement on an horrific accident and the statement of the driver alone.

 

[Olmate]

28 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

While looking at the picture I can see the result.

It's unnecessary to resort to rudeness by asking if I'm blind, and getting all the facts to get a clearer picture.

 

In the report it quotes only the pickup driver: 'He said that the couple were riding with another couple on another motorcycle when the deceased pair rode into his lane and there was a collision.'

 

There is another possibly (although unlikely) that the motorcyclists could have been driving in the same direction as the pickup, but in front of it. The motorcycle driver could have braked hard for whatever reason and the pickup ploughed into them at high speed.

 

Hence my comment about waiting to know the facts regarding the accident, not just making a judgement on an horrific accident and the statement of the driver alone.

 

Nice but damage is to the front of the scooter!

[saminoz]

7 hours ago, bbi1 said:

Just tourists? Why not just ban all foreigners from riding scooters & motorcycles in Thailand.

You are being ridiculous.

I have lived in Thailand the past 14 years equally riding my scooters and my car.

Why would I have to stop.

Try thinking before posting.

Jeez!

[bluesofa]

11 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Nice but damage is to the front of the scooter!

That's fair enough, so it does seem it was a head-on collision as stated.

In the original report, there was no photo of the bike.

[Mick501]

Many places seem to have found a solution to the problem of crossing lanes, whereby everyone simply drives in the middle.

[mike787]

Well there you have it....another wasted wonderful life yet again on THailand's roads....So unnecessary and sad.  Damm it, wish it wasn't this way.  I really like this place, but like my x wife, she will never change....

[scubascuba3]

Common for guys to go too fast especially with a woman on the back

[Scot123]

Is it just me but the pickup is in the motorbike lane? The left hand side lane is for motor bikes and not pickups going at 100mph! 

[Olmate]

13 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Is it just me but the pickup is in the motorbike lane? The left hand side lane is for motor bikes and not pickups going at 100mph! 

Yes it’s just you, look again. And debris and bike are just off centre line.

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that the couple were riding with another couple on another motorcycle when the deceased pair rode into his lane and there was a collision. 

Some you win some you lose...

RIP

[Bangkok Barry]

10 hours ago, saakura said:

RIP, horrific tragedy. Tourists from western nations should be banned from riding scooters and motorcycles in Thailand as they would have no idea of the dangers on the roads here.

 

If - if - the driver is to be believed then the danger on the road was the tourists who drove into him. Aren't many of the accidents in Thailand involving foreigners due to them not being qualified or being unable to control what they are driving? Plenty of members of this site are often saying as much.

[Matzzon]

9 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

It really would be nice if you weren't so offensive.

 

edit: BTW, so far 10 people liked my first post, only you posted as "confused"

 

Yes, I know that you are a bunch of guys that support each other for the love of likes. Means nothing to me. They probably just looked at the name of the poster and did not understand the content of what they read.

The fact is that they simply couldn´t control the motorbike, and then <deleted> happens quick. End of story!

[FarFlungFalang]

8 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Perhaps the vehicle was moved to allow the vehicle flow.

Indeed many possibilities.Motor vehicle accidents are notoriously difficult to judge what has happened from how everything comes to rest when at the scene let alone from a photo in a news article. 

[balo]

Tourists who are not used to Thai roads should not ride bikes. RIP. 

[Don Mega]

Whoopsie !!

[dabhand]

3 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Indeed many possibilities.Motor vehicle accidents are notoriously difficult to judge what has happened from how everything comes to rest when at the scene let alone from a photo in a news article. 

Maybe if you click on the link to the news article in the OP and view all the photos it might make it easier to judge what happened. It certainly appears to back-up the comments of the pick-up driver. Not pretty, though.  

[jany123]

Trying to overtake two up on a gutless scooter.... not an uncommon result and certainly the cause of countless near misses. Buy big ‘cause when use gots ta go, use got ta go.

[Old Croc]

 

Sometimes the name does match the nationality. An amendment from the Phuket News:

 

The tourists killed in the accident were later to be confirmed by the Tourist Police to be from Austria, not Australia. Our sincerest apologies for the error. (Updated 10:26pm, Feb 4)

[Traubert]

15 hours ago, bluesofa said:

I think to be fair we need to reserve judgement until we know all the facts clearly.

On TVF??

 

Dreamin'!!

 

Aussie's will know the reference.

[Damrongsak]

13 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

I think not. If you look at the photo, there is a body still on the roof of the vehicle, with another on the tarmac in the foreground. There is also much debris on the floor around the impact point.

Also note the white outlines on the road around the truck tires.

[gk10002000]

16 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that the couple were riding with another couple

would not be surprised that the two bikes got parallel to each other, got a bit too close and the couple's bike driver over reacted or just not thinking went out of the lane.  See it all the time with full sized bikers riding next to each other. 

[Traubert]

14 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

We nearly got squished by digger doing 70 on Pattaya main road yesterday that ran a red, thank god we got the side road we wanted after 60 seconds of hasty planning for the afterlife whilst the yellow monstrosity chased us

70 what? Feet a fortnight?

 

Diggers are big but quite slow.

[Traubert]

9 hours ago, Tchooptip said:

I am 75 years old, with a perfect sight without glasses, I exercise every day, my blood pressure is most of the time under 12/8, I regularly swim three kilometres with flippers, I am a teetotaller. I started legally with a moped 50 cc at 14 years old, I do not remember not having some sort of motorbike all my life including cross country and trial's ones, a 650cc Yamaha, in my sixties a delirious Italian scooter, a Gilera two-stroke, 180cc which to reach zero to one hundred kilometres hours in six seconds consumed seven litres of mixture each hundred kilometres, and many more over the decades...and with all that you would forbid me to drive a scooter ... but I am a saint ???? to be able to remain polite, dear Sir ???? 

Congratulations.

 

And the feller coming the other way?

[milesinnz]

18 hours ago, bbi1 said:

Just tourists? Why not just ban all foreigners from riding scooters & motorcycles in Thailand.

I am a foreigner when in Thailand. I have a motorcycle in Thailand, and one in Cambodia, as well as one in my home country. I have been riding motorcycles 50 years, and never had an accident since I was 16, and that was only extremely minor. I have ridden thousands of kms in Thailand, and out of any country, I really enjoy riding a bike in Thailand.. Because some people make stupid and ill informed comments, there should be a ban on people making comments on any Internet based forum...

[Blackheart1916]

19 hours ago, bbi1 said:

Just tourists? Why not just ban all foreigners from riding scooters & motorcycles in Thailand.

Douche of the day.

[Blackheart1916]

3 hours ago, Traubert said:

70 what? Feet a fortnight?

 

Diggers are big but quite slow.

Wheeled diggers that are commonly used in paved city areas are not so slow.

[NanLaew]

21 hours ago, bluesofa said:

21 hours ago, Matzzon said:

If the story is correct. How do you do, and what can be done, to prevent a stupid tourist from changing lanes and drive against traffic? How do you make this the fault of Thai drivers and Thailand drivers education based on the information in the news?

I think to be fair we need to reserve judgement until we know all the facts clearly.

Hell no! Matzzon's on a roll here so don't discourage him as this will keep him busy for a while and away from posting on the other, much more interesting TV threads.