If there was a Lockdown.......

[ianezy0]

I have to admit to be concerned, living in Thailand through this period of uncertainty:

 

1. Will there be a rise in crime. Many people have or will lose there job and have no means to go home.

   Where or how will they live with little or no money.

 

2. Will the soi dogs, a lot of them being regularly fed, hang around in dangerious packs and ransack bins and attack       more people. Will the council address the issue. Many will starve. I know a few would welcome this but it could become dangerous to walk in most areas.

 

3. Will there become a more definitive line between Thais and Expats, i.e. possible hate or racism.

 

4. How serious do you think the tourism of Thailand will be affected if it lasts longer than 12 months.

 

I know none of us have the answers, but it is a scary thought of what was once a thriving country and now to think how long will it take for things to gain normality once again.

 

This post is not to invite any Thai bashing, rather to provoke a debate on the future of Thailands tourism industry.

If you just have abusive comments to contribute, please don’t bother.

[HashBrownHarry]

None of the above concern me.

 

1. It's innevitable that crime will increase not only in Thailand but everywhere.

2. Not an important issue in these times.

3. Yes.

4. May never recover IMO.

[worgeordie]

Things could possible be worse in the country you come from,

especially the USA or Europe,so don't worry,it might never happen.

regards worgeordie

[Vigilante]

The duration of the outbreak will determine most issues you raise (and many you didn't)

I think in a months or two most govts will relax the  quarantines and let the virus 'burn' thru the population

Face masks will probably be compulsory for a year or more

 

Closing down the economy will kill many more (suicides ,crime, mental issues etc) and incur humungous economic losses with no guarantee of containment

 

 

[bkk6060]

18 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

Will there be a rise in crime. Many people have or will lose there job and have no means to go home.

 

No.  This has already been proven in western countries now crime is way down.

 

18 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

2. Will the soi dogs, a lot of them being regularly fed, hang around in dangerious packs and ransack bins and attack       more people. Will the council address the issue. Many will starve. I know a few would welcome this but it could become dangerous to walk in most areas.

Possible, can't feed them all and avoid walking there.

18 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

3. Will there become a more definitive line between Thais and Expats, i.e. possible hate or racism.

No.  But, there quite possibly will be more against Chinese.

 

18 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

4. How serious do you think the tourism of Thailand will be affected if it lasts longer than 12 month

12 months?  12 months no tourism?  Just use common sense major recession.

Edited March 31, 2020 by bkk6060

[1FinickyOne]

I have sensed a period of things being very unsettled for the last couple of years... this isolation from virus enforces that...

 

I hope not correct but I think the world will never be the same again...

[Antonymous]

These are indeed important questions to ask OP, but as Worgeordie said, it could be worse in the country you come from.

 

I think that more theft is inevitable if the shutdown is prolonged and in any country (Thailand certainly) where unemployment benefits and state handouts are inadequate. Perhaps much less so in the farming communities that are more resilient in hard times and always have food to eat. More so in the towns and cities.

 

Foreigners may become a target for house burglaries and theft in towns and cities, if you flaunt your wealth in these difficult times.

 

Tourism has already been decimated and it will take a long time to recover.

[ezzra]

Right now here are millions of questions of people's mind with only guess for answers some more educated than others, fear, anxiety and stress is a common feeling right now, this thing will get worse before its get better and it has to run its course there will be no shortcuts...

[totally thaied up]

These questions are going to take a lot of time before we know answers.

 

Tourism is going to be hurt world wide for a long time and Thailand, being near China, I feel will take maybe more time to recover. I read a article that the British are very upset with the Chinese and they said that one day, China will have a day of reckoning for not telling the truth about this virus. Our Airlines in Australia are asking for billions of dollars from our Government at this time in Loans to keep things afloat. Our economy may not recover for a very, very long time, so it is not just Thailand in this boat. Most the world is.

 

Just in my household, we are down 45,000 baht a month from lose of wages due to the virus from my family members not being able to work. This will be spread far and wide across this country, so yes, crime could climb. My wife has been asked by hotels that she does books for, to suspend her work for the time being. So it is affecting average families.

 

Some say the world may never be the same and social distancing may be around for a lot longer then we know. It may take many months for this virus to burn itself down. We just do not have enough information yet to understand and it is still just in it's infancy I feel. I watched on Thai PBS World last night a doctor saying things have not started yet.  

 

I see no racism in my village but my Father-in-law told me this virus came from China and the average Thai person knows this and they are not happy about this at all. Saying this virus is spread by farangs (even if it is media hype) is not certainly what they all think. We have large signs all up around our village saying beware of the Wuhan Flu, not covid-19.

 

The future at this stage is hard to see but this will all die down but for things to go back to the same same they were before, I just do not know. We have seen the world locked down over a virus, seen our economies get trashed and in some way, the world panicked. Hard to see what the outcome long term will be but for the short term, things have changed.  

Edited March 31, 2020 by totally thaied up

[ianezy0]

1 hour ago, Vigilante said:

The duration of the outbreak will determine most issues you raise (and many you didn't)

I think in a months or two most govts will relax the  quarantines and let the virus 'burn' thru the population

Face masks will probably be compulsory for a year or more

 

Closing down the economy will kill many more (suicides ,crime, mental issues etc) and incur humungous economic losses with no guarantee of containment

 

 

Yes, mental issues could be a big one.

[andy85]

21 hours ago, ianezy0 said:

Yes, mental issues could be a big one.

Last night my neighbours here in CM had a huge domestic blow-up, the husband quarreled with the wife, started breaking things, and chased his son down the street with a machete. Police later came and calmed everyone down. I worry this kind of thing will become more commonplace the longer the lockdown goes on, and everyone becomes more stir crazy...

[Brunolem]

Long before the virus crisis, I told my family, friends and contacts that the coming decade, the 2020s, would be the worst in human history...and it didn't take long to be confirmed, since we are only ending the first quarter of this decade.

 

Social unrest, there will be, but probably less in Eastern Asia than in the West, because people in that part of the world have not had it as easy as the Westerners...no nanny state to cocoon them.

 

As any good prepper would say, people will be safer upcountry, in farmland, than in cities.

 

Now, after the pandemic, if it ever ends, the bill will come due, and in many countries the population will be "invited" to share the pain.

 

This could very well mean reductions in all social protection systems, including retirement.

 

People's wealth and purchasing power will go down, and this won't be good for tourism, especially long distance travel.

 

On top of that, the fear of the virus will remain for a long time, and people generally believe that their home country is safer.

 

Thailand would be well advised to prepare itself for a future where tourism is only a fraction of what it used to be, and search for alternatives.

[BigStar]

23 hours ago, ianezy0 said:

1. Will there be a rise in crime. Many people have or will lose there job and have no means to go home.

   Where or how will they live with little or no money.

 

Yes, probably a rise in Brit abuse of Thais and crime. Just read a report about these new attacks in the UK:

 

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/31/nhs-nurses-banned-wearing-uniforms-public-abuse/

 

Growing paranoia, victimism (seen here already), "little or no money" preceded by an outbreak of loud whinging. May need to be rounded up and shipped out. 

Edited April 1, 2020 by BigStar

[DefaultName]

23 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

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2. Not an important issue in these times.

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No 2 (soi dogs) is very relevant to anyone with a motorcycle.

[Tchooptip]

23 hours ago, kenk24 said:

I have sensed a period of things being very unsettled for the last couple of years... this isolation from virus enforces that...

 

I hope not correct but I think the world will never be the same again...

I hope not correct but I think the world will never be the same again...

It was said  also after WW1 and again after WW2.  

[HashBrownHarry]

25 minutes ago, DefaultName said:

No 2 (soi dogs) is very relevant to anyone with a motorcycle.

what do they do to motorbikes?

[johng]

5 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

the Chinese will be barred immediately, probably forever.

Just before this all got "really serious"  there where a couple of  shops/restaurants   with signs baring people from China.

Then some "netizens" where outraged  and they changed  it to all "foreigners"    the netizens where again outraged and the authorities told them to take the signs down.

[Brickbat]

We are not in normal times. So abnormal behaviour will spring up world wide . It’s how we adapt. If we stay sensible ,we can be fine. Certainly , bad things happen, but hey, maybe we should realise that a life is worth more than all the money in the world. Shame Trump sees the opposite. 
And hopefully, we all realise that “more ,more, more”  is just bullsh#t

[BritManToo]

Just now, Brickbat said:

maybe we should realise that a life is worth more than all the money in the world.

I'd prefer to have the money.

[BritManToo]

12 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

does every owner, bars, restaurants etc, not have the authority to keep anyone out they want?

Try putting up a sign 'no blacks' outside your shop in the UK and see.

Edited April 1, 2020 by BritManToo

[NoshowJones]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Try putting up a sign 'no blacks' outside your shop in the UK and see.

Yes I know that, but unlike the UK, there are no laws regarding racism in Thailand.

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Yes I know that, but unlike the UK, there are no laws regarding racism in Thailand.

I guess you could try a prominent sign 'No Chinese' and see what happens.

I'm guessing it wouldn't result in a happy ending.

[Fairynuff]

If you’re really that concerned, help Soi dogs get fed, help anyone you can if they look like they need help. Be aware generally, but no I don’t think we as foreigners will be any less safe than we already are.

[Fairynuff]

48 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I personally know a Guest House owner who does not allow Chinese or Indians on his premises.

I personally hope he goes out of business 

[johng]

1 hour ago, HashBrownHarry said:

what do they do to motorbikes?

The chase and bite the riders legs and/or run out in front of the rider causing them to crash !

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

When this lockdown is over, and the Chinese start coming to Thailand, and I predict the Thai government will let them in very quickly, if I was a Restaurant, Bar or Massage shop owner etc, the Chinese will be barred immediately, probably forever.

Nice to see you agreeing with me for a change Fairynuff. ????

[Fairynuff]

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

Nice to see you agreeing with me for a change Fairynuff. ????

You appear to be agreeing with yourself

[allanos]

The British Foreign Secretary has stated that there must be a "day of reckoning" with the Chinese.  I doubt whether we can read into that, that the Brits will send a gunboat to China (as they did in the past).

 

My personal wish is that China be hauled before the World Court in The Hague (Den Hague), and charged with Crimes Against Humanity.

 

The Chinese would no doubt claim that they cannot be held to account for something which was an "accident".  I would counter that, even if true, they should be forced to pay reparations to all countries, businesses and individuals effected by Covid-19, as it is common cause that the "plague" originated in China.

 

China first did its best to sweep the problem under the carpet and then did not do enough about containment.  We shall never know the true extent of the number of deaths from novel corona virus in China, but the ones who became victims in other countries have been accounted for and quantified.

[brewsterbudgen]

Back on topic.....what is the likelihood of a full lockdown?  Personally, I can't see it happening, except if people were to start celebrating Songkran, and then it would only last for a week or so.

[CharlieH]

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