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[stevenl]

@merijn, drive through open for 90 days?

[pagallim]

Just now, stevenl said:

@merijn, drive through open for 90 days?

Yes, I was there this morning, though there were half a dozen people doing a 'walk through'.

[beechbum]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

@merijn, drive through open for 90 days?

Did it a few days ago, no problems.

[merijn]

22 hours ago, stevenl said:

@merijn, drive through open for 90 days?

Yes, open as normal.

[stevenl]

Thanks, also to the others.

 

Went there this morning, nobody in front of me, and drive through, not walk through.

[LivinginKata]

Screwed up my 90 day online so off to drive through this morning. Roads from Chalong  circle very busy, back to normal. Drive through lined up on  main road. Cause confusion with through traffic. Process seemed longer than usual per passport. At least sit in comfort of car with my music choice. Not so bad .... 

[KarenBravo]

Just had my online 90-day report approved. Now that the TM30 is no longer required, just a few minutes each year at immigration to get the yearly extension. Love it!

[LivinginKata]

13 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Just had my online 90-day report approved. Now that the TM30 is no longer required, just a few minutes each year at immigration to get the yearly extension. Love it!

 

Sorry, you still need the 90 day reporting. As Far As I Know.   TM30 is all about house registrations. 

 

Edit - for me I usually do the 90 day and house change online. So just one trip Imm per year as you say.

Edited June 29, 2020 by LivinginKata

[KarenBravo]

17 minutes ago, LivinginKata said:

 

Sorry, you still need the 90 day reporting. As Far As I Know.   TM30 is all about house registrations. 

 

Edit - for me I usually do the 90 day and house change online. So just one trip Imm per year as you say.

I do the 90 day report online.

As for the TM30, for me, it's over.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-immigration-confirms-24-hour-reporting-no-longer-needed-for-long-stay-expats-76490.php

Edited June 29, 2020 by KarenBravo

[Psimbo]

In and out within ten minutes on Friday to renew Retirement Permit. No map asked for as I had made one of course. One lady was just finishing up as I got there and the visa was stamped in almost before I had sat down. Very quiet, no one after me and I was the ninth person that day to be processed- this was at around  11 am. It took longer to get the letter from the bank than it did the actual visa stuff!

 

Only difference from last year was fingerprinting scans and a photo against a height board.

 

Didn't even get inside to collect it today- passed to me as soon as I got there. Very good service. 

[hansgruber]

If you guys want to get a ticket for the que at immigration you can use the QueQ app.

I used it yesterday and can check in 3 kilometres before you even arrive. 

I walked in and my number was called immediately and in front of all the miffed expats waiting in line. 

I suggest booking this way. 

It's available in the play store. 

[Badrabbit]

11 hours ago, hansgruber said:

If you guys want to get a ticket for the que at immigration you can use the QueQ app.

I used it yesterday and can check in 3 kilometres before you even arrive. 

I walked in and my number was called immediately and in front of all the miffed expats waiting in line. 

I suggest booking this way. 

It's available in the play store. 

Which service do you select for COR or re-entry permit as I cant see that option within Phuket immigration? 

Ah maybe you select the certification option, thanks for letting us know it works.

Edited July 22, 2020 by Badrabbit

[merijn]

16 hours ago, Badrabbit said:

Which service do you select for COR or re-entry permit as I cant see that option within Phuket immigration? 

Ah maybe you select the certification option, thanks for letting us know it works.

The online queuing system (QR code) is not used yet for room 101 activities. (Re-entry, COR etc )

The whole online ticket system is also not requited if you don't want to use it.

[Badrabbit]

2 hours ago, merijn said:

The online queuing system (QR code) is not used yet for room 101 activities. (Re-entry, COR etc )

The whole online ticket system is also not requited if you don't want to use it.

What did the poster use the QueQ for then if not for room 101? maybe used it for room 103, he has not provided any information other than he used it.

[merijn]

17 minutes ago, Badrabbit said:

What did the poster use the QueQ for then if not for room 101? maybe used it for room 103, he has not provided any information other than he used it.

I understood that he was trying to use the QR code for a Re-entry.

Currently only room 102 is using the QR option.

 

Btw, Did you see the terms and conditions when you want to use the QR code option on your phone?

They collect all previous data from your phone from all the times you used the QR app.

They follow your location all the times even the app is not being used.

Collect all your phone information.

When using a social media login for the app they can also collect all information from the used social media account.

They can share all collected information with everybody else.

 

Reading this i don't think that i will be using the QR app and just walk in for my immigration issues.

[Badrabbit]

21 hours ago, merijn said:

I understood that he was trying to use the QR code for a Re-entry.

Currently only room 102 is using the QR option.

 

Btw, Did you see the terms and conditions when you want to use the QR code option on your phone?

They collect all previous data from your phone from all the times you used the QR app.

They follow your location all the times even the app is not being used.

Collect all your phone information.

When using a social media login for the app they can also collect all information from the used social media account.

They can share all collected information with everybody else.

 

Reading this i don't think that i will be using the QR app and just walk in for my immigration issues.

If you have a mobile phone they already have all your information so I wouldent worry about QR!! 

 

It would be nice if the poster provided more information regarding him using the QueQ at Immigration.

[zzzzz]

if i give them my mobile phone #, all they have is my phone number.

they cant track me or know anything about me.

IE its NOT a smart phone

[stevenl]

21 hours ago, Badrabbit said:

If you have a mobile phone they already have all your information so I wouldent worry about QR!! 

 

It would be nice if the poster provided more information regarding him using the QueQ at Immigration.

No, not to the same extent.

 

I must say I find the permissions required for this app extreme, a reason for me not to use it 

[merijn]

21 hours ago, Badrabbit said:

If you have a mobile phone they already have all your information so I wouldent worry about QR!! 

 

It would be nice if the poster provided more information regarding him using the QueQ at Immigration.

Normally they only have your phone number and maybe your email address if you provided that but nothing more.

 

i have nothing to hide but reading the T/C of the app it’s going to far for me to agree to it.

Why do they need all the information and track you for the whole year when you use the app maybe for 5 mins?

Also I don’t like it that they can hand over all your information to anybody they like.

Edited July 25, 2020 by merijn

[fdsa]

On 7/24/2020 at 5:29 PM, zzzzz said:

if i give them my mobile phone #, all they have is my phone number.

they cant track me or know anything about me.

IE its NOT a smart phone

only if you have your phone permanently turned off (and battery removed)

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+gsm+base+stations+work

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=gsm+phone+tracking+by+base+stations

 

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by fdsa

[fdsa]

2 minutes ago, fdsa said:

and battery removed

because some phone models still provide power to the SIM card if you turn them off but do not remove the battery.

and SIM card itself is a micro computer (has its own CPU, RAM, storage) and can download and run simple applications, for example call some predefined number to allow KGB record the sounds around the phone.

 

https://mobiforge.com/news-comment/the-sim-the-tiny-computer-in-your-pocket-thats-really-in-control

 

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/markets/digital-identity-and-security/technology/ota

[fdsa]

22 minutes ago, fdsa said:

gsm phone tracking by base stations

old smartphones had the possibility to link the phone to the single chosen base station (google "nokia fieldtest" for example), making the phone tracking from incredibly difficult to impossible. but as KGB wants to track and spy on everyone, modern phones have no such possibility and always choose the base station automatically, making "stingray" tracking/spying applications possible and widely available for KGB/hackers for a few hundred bucks.

so if you have a 2010+ phone - you are f'd.

 

*under "KGB" I mean not KGB itself but any third-letter organization interested in spying, be it KGB or NSA, FBI, Chinese Communist Party, Jew Mason Commitee, you name it.

Edited July 25, 2020 by fdsa

[zzzzz]

16 hours ago, fdsa said:

only if you have your phone permanently turned off (and battery removed)

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+gsm+base+stations+work

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=gsm+phone+tracking+by+base+stations

 

 

You seriously think Thai immigration has the know how/desire to track a non smart phone ( no gps, no internet)

I dont think so     ????

[Old Croc]

In may Phuket Immigration granted me a further 12 month retirement extension, without needing the insurance ripoff, for which I was very grateful. It's given me the time to wait for any further legislative changes or to amend my stay reason.

Now, nearly three months later, I've just inputted my details into the 90 day report on-line app.  I've been doing this 3 or 4 times a year since my arrival in 2010, always without being accepted. This has resulted in numerous trips to this office for myself, and/or my lady, just for them to update their computer. It has no practical purpose.

Quelle surprise!  After those 30+ attempts over the years it went through to the pending tray for the first time!

I guess it has something to do with my new passport which would have caused them to update my details into the system.  (My last arrival and departure card details haven't changed)

I now look forward to making just the single yearly journey to Immigration in future.

[fdsa]

43 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

You seriously think Thai immigration has the know how/desire to track a non smart phone ( no gps, no internet)

I dont think so     ????

it was to clarify that this statement -

  

On 7/24/2020 at 5:29 PM, zzzzz said:

they cant track me or know anything about me.

 

- is disinformation.

I'm not sure about Thai Immigration but Thai Police surely has the knowledge and tools to track a phone, be it "smart" or "dumb" phone. This method (base station triangulation) is used for decades by the emergency services to find lost people (and crooks of course ???? )

 

 

P.S.

16 hours ago, fdsa said:

so if you have a 2010+ phone - you are f'd.

and if you have a pre-2010 phone but don't know how to use it properly - you are f'd too :D

everyone is f'd actually.

Edited July 26, 2020 by fdsa

[Agusts]

@Old Croc Exactly the same for me,  90 day reporting never worked before, after new passport, it's working now...

 

Although I use their website, as discussion above goes,  I avoid installing any app on my phone if there is a website alternative available - far better for my phone's health, and my sanity...! ????

 

I remember years ago when the smart phone apps started appearing, I was totally baffled why people would install an app, and why companies create app rather than a well-written mobile version website for it - now we know why...????

 

I still use Facebook website and others on my phone, so far so good. But they try hard to reduce options and force me to go for the app - resist comrades...lol 

 

 

[Old Croc]

6 minutes ago, Agusts said:

@Old Croc Exactly the same for me,  90 day reporting never worked before, after new passport, it's working now...

 

Although I use their website, as discussion above goes,  I avoid installing any app on my phone if there is a website alternative available - far better for my phone's health, and my sanity...! ????

 

I remember years ago when the smart phone apps started appearing, I was totally baffled why people would install an app, and why companies create app rather than a well-written mobile version website for it - now we know why...????

 

I still use Facebook website and others on my phone, so far so good. But they try hard to reduce options and force me to go for the app - resist comrades...lol 

 

 

I should have said website instead of app. I don't use my phone for banking. immigration purposes, Facebook or similar. I consider it far too easy for thieves or scammers to access important data from a mobile device.

I don't buy internet for it, just link to my home WIFI. Ergo it's just for calls when away from home base.

[hansgruber]

On 7/23/2020 at 10:54 AM, Badrabbit said:

What did the poster use the QueQ for then if not for room 101? maybe used it for room 103, he has not provided any information other than he used it.

Sorry for not clarifying. 

It's just to grab a ticket and a place in line in front of the hordes of the unorganised. 

You can hit it 3km away from immigration and uses your location to know you're nearby and put you in line. 

I walked in the door and was first up. 

I didn't see any room selections 101 etc.. Just give them phone number, visa or service required and that's it. 

Apart from that it's a pretty useless app. 

I don't care about spying or tracking. I have nothing to hide from anyone. Hope they like my taste in porn if they're watching. 

[hansgruber]

I see all this talk about the app spying, tracking etc. 

Just check off the permissions. Only let it access to what you want it to and when. 

I only allow it to access my location when I'm using the app only. Rest of the time it has no access. 

 

[madmitch]

I went to Immigration at 2:15 this afternoon. I was literally the only customer in the main room (101). A far cry from a couple of weeks ago.