6 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Cant believe in this day and age there are some who have voted no.

Still,  the answer is 42, thats the only thing thats matters

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

No it could not have been prevented as it was a well put together plan. The only mystery that I found strange was the downing of the plane over Shanksville. An airliner crashed into a field leaving a 20 x 20 foot deep hole and no wreckage, no bodies, no nothing. Just a hole in the ground.

Possibly because the plane didn't break apart in mid air, but was still intact when hitting the ground at high speed - no air drag slowing down separate pieces as they fell.  Take a look at what happens when a plane is crashed into a solid object at 500mph, and try and identify any of the pieces afterwards:

 

3 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Possibly because the plane didn't break apart in mid air, but was still intact when hitting the ground at high speed - no air drag slowing down separate pieces as they fell.  Take a look at what happens when a plane is crashed into a solid object at 500mph, and try and identify any of the pieces afterwards:

You know now "they'll" just say that vid is faked. The jet was made of balsa or simply CGI. Never without a denial. I have 5 close friends, 3 of those retired in Thailand and all 3 have turned into major conspiracy theorists about everything. What is it about this place?!? Fortunately that malady hasn't infected the majority of us. The poll shows about 1 in 5. 

4 hours ago, userabcd said:

Cant believe in this day and age there are some who have voted no.

Some clear evidence to support the NO vote in the article attached below:

 

4 hours ago, Tagged said:

Still,  the answer is 42, thats the only thing thats matters

"The answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything” - calculated by a very big computer over a very very long time.

On 9/10/2020 at 9:47 AM, jak2002003 said:

I think we did go to the moon.   But, a doubter told me about the flag they planted there and how it was blowing in the wind......which is impossible because the there is no wind on the moon.  I am not sure I can explain that. 

Anyone who doubts that man landed on the moon is a moron. It's not necessary to prove that they did, only try to prove by dubious 'facts' that they didn't, and as no evidence can possibly exist to disprove that the landings were real, its not worth even this meaningless thread.  Satellites in orbit around the moon show the landing sites in great detail, but I suppose that the idiot doubters say that that are fake. No doubt some of the doubters also believe in God, a fantasy for which there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Such is the stupidly of a great many people. 

59 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Anyone who doubts that man landed on the moon is a moron. It's not necessary to prove that they did, only try to prove by dubious 'facts' that they didn't, and as no evidence can possibly exist to disprove that the landings were real, its not worth even this meaningless thread.  Satellites in orbit around the moon show the landing sites in great detail, but I suppose that the idiot doubters say that that are fake. No doubt some of the doubters also believe in God, a fantasy for which there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Such is the stupidly of a great many people. 

If only they hadn't screwed up Hubble's focusing, we'd have been able to see for ourselves.

C'mon that's gotta make you wonder a little bit.

 

As for satellite images ........ this is one of the latest (and best).

 

There's also the very real fact that Nasa, and other agencies, have been bouncing lasers off of reflectors placed on the moon by the Apollo, and later, missions to measure the distance between Earth and the Moon, amongst other things.  The sad news is they are drifting apart by about 3.8cm per year:

 

"Scientists have been using reflectors on the Moon since the Apollo era to learn more about our nearest neighbor. It’s a fairly straightforward experiment: Aim a beam of light at the reflector and clock the amount of time it takes for the light to come back. Decades of making this one measurement has led to major discoveries...

 

...There are five reflecting panels on the Moon. Two were delivered by Apollo 11 and 14 crews in 1969 and 1971, respectively. They are each made of 100 mirrors that scientists call “corner cubes,” as they are corners of a glass cube; the benefit of these mirrors is that they can reflect light back to any direction it comes from. Another panel with 300 corner cubes was dropped off by Apollo 15 astronauts in 1971. Soviet robotic rovers called Lunokhod 1 and 2, which landed in 1970 and 1973, carry two additional reflectors, with 14 mirrors each. Collectively, these reflectors comprise the last working science experiment from the Apollo era".

 

 

 

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2020/laser-beams-reflected-between-earth-and-moon-boost-science

 

What fascinates me is the psychology of why people want to believe the moon landings were faked (or any other conspiracy like flat-earth, covid-hoax etc). I think it boils down to fear. Uncertainty freaks people out so it's more comforting to believe that someone or some group of people are 'in control' even if it's evil or a lie. The truth that there are many things beyond anyone's control is scary - it's easier to just put on a tin foil hat and pretend the world is a mess because the lizard people are doing a <deleted> poor job of running the show. 
You see the same thing in play right now with covid - all those Trump supporters at rallies, not wearing masks or socially distancing, saying that covid is a hoax, or that it's caused by 5G, or made up by the Democrats or the 'deep state'. They are comforted by the notion that someone (or some group) are actually in charge and in control, when in fact it's the opposite: 40,000+ covid infections and 1000+ deaths in the US every day (yes STILL) and no end in sight. 
If I was in the US administration, I would much rather have nut jobs focus on the moon landings than look at real conspiracies and cover-ups that are actually happening right now; like how Trump told Bob Woodward on the phone that covid was highly contagious and then told the American people that it would 'just disappear'. Stuff like that. 

too many unanswered questions ,its very fishy but something happened

On 9/11/2020 at 12:44 AM, BritManToo said:

There is no telescope in existence with the resolution to spot anything man allegedly left on the moon.

Hubble should have been able to do it, except they made a mistake building the lens, and it can't focus that close.

It causes me pain to read your post: - try this:

https://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/hubble_moon.html

 

Anyone who seriously questions the moon landing Is insane and needs help from a mental health professional. I am very serious with this reply.

Would like to know how many anti vaxxers there is here as well when this thread dies out, it is a good new topic. 

On 9/10/2020 at 3:59 AM, toofarnorth said:

There was no word from Russia saying it was a fake and their cosmonauts would have loved it to have been fake.

This is it. No point in belaboring it. There was a massive race between USA/RUSSIA and had there been discrepancy it would have been pointed out by the aforementioned. The Ruskies tracked everything. Reason for non-return till around now is cost, which almost bankrupted America. Of course, the flatearthers for sure will find out when Musk's mates land there soon and get pics of the buggy.  

Just cannot believe 20% are that dense. We all have opinion of course, and please excuse, but please just do some reading and understand science and suchlike before making assumptions.

12 hours ago, Pilotman said:

Anyone who doubts that man landed on the moon is a moron. It's not necessary to prove that they did, only try to prove by dubious 'facts' that they didn't, and as no evidence can possibly exist to disprove that the landings were real, its not worth even this meaningless thread.  Satellites in orbit around the moon show the landing sites in great detail, but I suppose that the idiot doubters say that that are fake. No doubt some of the doubters also believe in God, a fantasy for which there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Such is the stupidly of a great many people. 

It is rarity that I agree to one of your posts. 

On 9/10/2020 at 9:59 AM, toofarnorth said:

There was no word from Russia saying it was a fake and their cosmonauts would have loved it to have been fake.

If you believe in the deep deep state, it is only a constructed play where there is conflicts we have to pay for, extra unecessery security we do not need, wars we really do not need and those from deep deep state sacrifie nothing, And can sit back and enjoy the show. You can call it a chess game between gentlemen with live players. Space program you and me pay for that is an illusion, And  big money for the deep deep state 

 

Nb edit note: The deep state do not even know they are part of a bigger game in the deep deep plan, only some few key players is involved. Of course the deep state still benefit for the game they are part of, and ask no questions. 

Right now the Thai's are secretly working on a warp drive for submarines which would make excellent inter-planetary transports. The budget is massive.

1 hour ago, Tagged said:

Would like to know how many anti vaxxers there is here as well when this thread dies out, it is a good new topic. 

It is fundamentally dishonest to put anti-vaxxers in the same bag as flat-earthers and moon-landing deniers.

20 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

It is fundamentally dishonest to put anti-vaxxers in the same bag as flat-earthers and moon-landing deniers.

I see your point, and not necessery same group, but still if you believe vaccination is a good thing, save lives, prevent dissabillities, and mostly is a great thing for humans, then you can twist your head around those who 100% is against. 

 

I would like to see some sub groups in such a poll, and not only yes or no. 

 

 

And the distrust of governments and the distrust against WHO as well I would say end up in the same categories as against vaccination. And of course distrust against bill gates who have donated more than any living man on the planet to help the humanity. 

 

Stolen from a friend fb post, and sure this one have gone viral. Not sure where it orign from thow. 

"

Imagine being Bill Gates right now.

You spend 30 years of your life and $50 billion of your own dollars supporting humanitarian causes. You directly save hundreds of thousands of lives in South East Asia by providing anti malaria netting to half of a continent, you drop infant mortality rates throughout the entire developing world by funding vaccine programs including vaccinating 40,000,000 children for polio, and, amongst a plethora of philanthropic endeavors, you fund free educational platforms like Khan Academy so people can have free access to high quality education.

Then after donating half of your wealth to charity and pledging 90% of the remainder to charity in your will..

Arguably doing more to better life on earth for humanity than any other human being to ever live.

You then hop on the internet only to find a million scientifically illiterate <deleted> imbeciles that are using the very computers you pretty much invented in the first place to call you a child murdering arch villian antichrist because they watched a YouTube video made by some other yokel with the comprehension of a <deleted> potato."

 

 

 

I have no problem believing that those landings were real. What will always keep me from changing that

point of view was the one moon landing that actually did not occur due to the Apollo 13 crisis in April of 1970. I skipped a few classes that week to keep track of the outcome of their situation. There is no mind sick enough to fake something like that. In time these same non-believers will resort to also disclaiming space shuttle missions (including the deaths of some their crews), the space station, The Hubble telescope, Mars exploration and other historic scientific achievements  in the same way. 

Going out of their way to tear down the success of others seems to empower them in some sort of David vs Goliath fantasy . It's a lot easier than going out of their way to do something constructive with their lives.

 

 

14 hours ago, Pilotman said:

Anyone who doubts that man landed on the moon is a moron. It's not necessary to prove that they did, only try to prove by dubious 'facts' that they didn't, and as no evidence can possibly exist to disprove that the landings were real, its not worth even this meaningless thread.  Satellites in orbit around the moon show the landing sites in great detail, but I suppose that the idiot doubters say that that are fake. No doubt some of the doubters also believe in God, a fantasy for which there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Such is the stupidly of a great many people. 

Agree. But what about the flag blowing in the wind?

 

1 hour ago, Tagged said:

You then hop on the internet only to find a million scientifically illiterate <deleted> imbeciles that are using the very computers you pretty much invented in the first place to call you a child murdering arch villian antichrist because they watched a YouTube video made by some other yokel with the comprehension of a <deleted> potato."

Sign of the times. We are not getting smarter, we are dumbing down. Surprising that we have not seen mobs of flagellants like they had in the middle ages, yet.

On 9/12/2020 at 2:06 PM, ballpoint said:

Possibly because the plane didn't break apart in mid air, but was still intact when hitting the ground at high speed - no air drag slowing down separate pieces as they fell.  Take a look at what happens when a plane is crashed into a solid object at 500mph, and try and identify any of the pieces afterwards:

 

All I see in that video are the impacts and resulting explosions. There are no 'afterwards' for which to check for debris.

On 9/11/2020 at 1:08 AM, bodga said:

Thermodynamics, pretty  simple https://steemit.com/science/@toushik/space-suit-spacesuit-structure-and-functions-of-different-parts

Sunglasses pocket?  It stood for 5 pages.