Biden narrowly beats Trump for presidency of a polarized United States

[tonray]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

Has an outgoing president ever had to be physically removed from the White House (except in a box of course)? 

Has an outgoing President ever failed to show up at his successor's swearing in ceremony ? I can't imagine Trump standing side by side with the Obamas watching "Sleepy Joe" take the oath of office

[mtls2005]

Congratulations to Joe and Kamala.

 

Time to get to work.

 

The dark clouds have been lifted and we can again see the City on the Hill.

 

trump inaugural address...Jan. 20, 2017

 

"Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

I’m looking forward to hearing Biden’s cabinet picks and who gets the job of USAG.

 

My guess, and dream pick, Preet Bharara.

 

 

[cmarshall]

1 minute ago, tonray said:

Has an outgoing President ever failed to show up at his successor's swearing in ceremony ? I can't imagine Trump standing side by side with the Obamas watching "Sleepy Joe" take the oath of office

I don't expect Trump to attend Biden's inauguration, but if he does the Biden people should be prepared to use physical force to keep him away from the microphone.

[cmarshall]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m looking forward to hearing Biden’s cabinet picks and who gets the job of USAG.

 

My guess, and dream pick, Preet Bharara.

 

 

 

Nope.  Job always goes to a politician, not a line attorney.  Adam Schiff.  But the title will be Acting Attorney General, because McConnell will not confirm any of Biden's Cabinet appointments.

Edited November 8, 2020 by cmarshall

[tonray]

Just now, cmarshall said:

I don't expect Trump to attend Biden's inauguration, but if he does the Biden people should be prepared to use physical force to keep him away from the microphone.

I say let him talk...that might be the final straw when he accuses the Chief Justice of stealing the election as he swears in Biden. The more he talks...the better for all to see how utterly insane he is.

[cmarshall]

2 minutes ago, tonray said:

I say let him talk...that might be the final straw when he accuses the Chief Justice of stealing the election as he swears in Biden. The more he talks...the better for all to see how utterly insane he is.

For sure, that will never happen.

[sceadugenga]

If he wont go voluntarily it may be time for that great American tradition of the tar and feathers prior to leaving town on a rail.

[Dumbastheycome]

9 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

Nothing in the Constitution or anywhere else prevents a felon from becoming president

Ah well, not such a surprise yet in many states  ex cons  have limited voting rights.

[Lacessit]

Tweet of the month, if not the year:

 

“That’s fine for you guys. As a Canadian, what I have to come to terms with however, is never to trust an American you meet for the first time. There is a fifty per cent chance that person is a complete moron. Terrible odds.” @LucymaGoosie

[bunnydrops]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

 

Definitely not The Donald's style, let the entertainment really begin ????

 

Haven't we had enough entertainment in the last 4 years? I am sure it won't happen but a nice curtain closing would be nice.

[Tippaporn]

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.  I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched but that's just my advice.  

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Just now, Tippaporn said:

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.  I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched but that's just my advice.  

The storm is coming.

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.  I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched but that's just my advice.  

The storm is coming.

For once I agree with you, placeholder.

[tonray]

He (or his son Jr.) will be back in 2024..already setting up. Have yo be ready to beat him again.

[ChouDoufu]

30 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

Biden's win is not particularly narrow.  He will end up with 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232, same as Trump got in 2016.  But Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million while Biden will win it by 4 - 5 million.

 

I stand by my prediction that Trump will resign and take a pardon from President Pence.  For the Democrats, this is the best possible outcome since it relieves Biden and his Attorney General from the politically risky job of having to prosecute him, which the NY State Attorney General's office is quite capable of handling.  So win - win for the national and NY Dems.

 

Without a legitimate pardon, i.e excluding a self-pardon, the Dems are morally bound to prosecute Trump since his violations of the law have been so numerous and brazen.  

 

 

pence (or biden) cannot pardon state crimes.  federal convictions only.

[cmarshall]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.  I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched but that's just my advice.  

 

Up until yesterday I would have agreed with you since the corrupt Supreme Court had yet to be heard from.  Although that is still the case, the lack of support among the Republican leadership for Trump's fraud claims make it a bridge too far even for the current collection of Republican hacks on the Court. 

[Dumbastheycome]

15 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Congratulations to Joe and Kamala.

 

Time to get to work.

 

The dark clouds have been lifted and we can again see the City on the Hill.

 

trump inaugural address...Jan. 20, 2017

 

"Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If those were Trump's  words  verbatim then he cursed himself !  A transfer of power every  4 years ?  lol

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, cmarshall said:

 

Up until yesterday I would have agreed with you since the corrupt Supreme Court had yet to be heard from.  Although that is still the case, the lack of support among the Republican leadership for Trump's fraud claims make it a bridge too far even for the current collection of Republican hacks on the Court. 

We shall see.

[cmarshall]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

 

pence (or biden) cannot pardon state crimes.  federal convictions only.

 

Exactly my point, which is why a pardon from Pence would allow the national Dem leadership to outsource the prosecution of Trump to Atty Gen Leticia James of NY is clear political conscience.  NB. conviction is not a requirement for a pardon.

Edited November 8, 2020 by cmarshall

[mtls2005]

1 minute ago, Dumbastheycome said:

If those were Trump's  words  verbatim then he cursed himself !  A transfer of power every  4 years ?  lol

 

Sorry, forgot the link...

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/the-inaugural-address/

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

26 minutes ago, sceadugenga said:

If he wont go voluntarily it may be time for that great American tradition of the tar and feathers prior to leaving town on a rail.

You apparently do not know that ex presidents are protected by the secret service. Any attempt to injure Trump might end unhappily for the attackers or their grieving relatives.

Edited November 8, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[Lacessit]

13 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.  I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched but that's just my advice.  

You may be right. Dozens of legal challenges waiting to be thrown out by the courts as frivolous. I'm just wondering if Trump will dud the lawyers on fees, just as he has dudded building contractors in the past. Now that would be poetic justice.

[cmarshall]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

You apparently do not know that ex presidents are protected by the secret service. Any attempt to injure Trump might end unhappily for the attackers or their relatives.

Which raises the interesting question of whether Secret Service protection is provided during incarceration.

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Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

You apparently do not know that ex presidents are protected by the secret service. Any attempt to injure Trump might end unhappily for the attackers or their relatives.

For their relatives? I got news for you...collective punishment isn't a thing in the United States.

You posted a correction and an unforced error. Nice.

And the correction was to a post that clearly wasn't serious. Now if you had criticized the poster for nastiness, you would have had a point.

 

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, cmarshall said:

Which raises the interesting question of whether Secret Service protection is provided during incarceration.

I've been wondering how that would be done.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You apparently do not know that ex presidents are protected by the secret service. Any attempt to injure Trump might end unhappily for the attackers or their relatives.

Given the way he has used the Secret Service as a political prop, in the process endangering them, I'm surprised one of them hasn't shot him.

[tonray]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I'm just wondering if Trump will dud the lawyers on fees, just as he has dudded building contractors in the past.

Nah...he's been soliciting monies for the past week feverishly calling on supporters for legal challenges funding. What they don't realize is this money is going to go to fund 2024 campaign ..or..to fund legal actions that arose from his official duties....we all know how he deals and hides sources and destinations of money. All the suckers sending in money now are being fleeced.

[ChouDoufu]

15 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

Exactly my point, which is why a pardon from Pence would allow the national Dem leadership to outsource the prosecution of Trump to Atty Gen Leticia James of NY is clear political conscience.  NB. conviction is not a requirement for a pardon.

 

thanks for the correction.

 

"The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

 

Constitution (Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1)

[mtls2005]

22 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.  I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched but that's just my advice.  

 

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