4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

To have a full blown trial there has to be evidence. The evidence has to be submitted  to the court, and the prosecution, those alleging the offence, have to prove - by the evidence, that the allegations are true.

 

They are unable to provide any evidence (uncorroborated affidavits are not sufficient), without evidence there can be no trial; that is why these allegations are being so regularly and inevitably dismissed by the courts. 

 

Sorry, but you are the one not listening!

The judges were not listening lol. Corrupt rats. I been following closely.

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Not even close, on the contrary, it is the left who routinely use violence and the threat thereof. 

 

Right. No comparison at all. Stand back and stand by. A direct quote, as you well know.

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Someone who was trying to protect property from violent left wing rioters.

 

The damage from riots and looting across the U.S. following the death of George Floyd is estimated to be the costliest in insurance history – between $1 billion and $2 billion.

 

No, he was a 17 year old kid across state lines violating a curfew (breaking the law) looking to shoot his rifle at somebody and play Militia...he got what he wanted. He killed somebody, tried to run behind the cops for protection...got chased for what he did and shot up some more people....but he was not "defending property" and certainly not his own property.

9 hours ago, Blue Muton said:

But this thread isn't about bank tellers so your above statement is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Oooh look, there's a unicorn.

Then just  go into any bank in Thailand and try to withdraw 50 or more thousand baht with no id card or passport, then come back and tell us all the result. 

 

All banks now use electronic data so it makes the post relevant.

 

Unicorns,OTOH are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

1 hour ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

No, he was a 17 year old kid across state lines violating a curfew (breaking the law) looking to shoot his rifle at somebody and play Militia...he got what he wanted. He killed somebody, tried to run behind the cops for protection...got chased for what he did and shot up some more people....but he was not "defending property" and certainly not his own property.

 

Your opinion and far from the facts.

12 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Your opinion and far from the facts.

Its one thing defending your own property or being an official policeman. 

 

He was a vigilante.

 

Thats illegal.

 

Its funny that people that say they support law and order also support vigilantes.

47 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Its one thing defending your own property or being an official policeman. 

 

He was a vigilante.

 

Thats illegal.

 

Its funny that people that say they support law and order also support vigilantes.

 

i dunno.  it's not all black&white.  i suppose the individual had been consuming a steady diet of fox news, following reports of protests turning violent, looting and burning of businesses, and police ordered to stand down and give the protesters space to protest.  seems the idea was to dress up in camo and carry a rifle, stand in front of the businesses looking intimidating to prevent looting.  not super smart, but it's not like he was dressing up like batman, pummeling criminals into submission and dragging them to the police station, vigilante-style.  more like mall-cop on steroids.

 

i'm not sure exactly what happened, but some clever folks on the opposing side got the bright idea to chase an armed man-boy down the street and attack him.  at that point, regardless of the original intent of the exercise, he was trying to escape but had no choice other than to defend himself.  had he not, we'd surely be ridiculing him for allowing himself to be disarmed and shot with his own weapon, serves him right, y'know.

 

he may face some penalties due to age or crossing state lines with a weapon, i'm obviously not a lawyer, but am confident the shooting charges will be dropped under self-defense.

Republicans accept Biden win after Electoral College vote

 

 

 

Hoping webfact starts a new topic.....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-senate/senior-republicans-accept-biden-as-president-elect-reject-talk-of-overturning-election-idUSKBN28O33F

3 minutes ago, Seth1a2a said:

Republicans accept Biden win after Electoral College vote

 

 

 

Hoping webfact starts a new topic.....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-senate/senior-republicans-accept-biden-as-president-elect-reject-talk-of-overturning-election-idUSKBN28O33F

Well, it looks like our TVF senior Republicans don't! ????

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Your opinion and far from the facts.

OK James, I said that he was a 17 year old kid across state lines violating a curfew (breaking the law) looking to shoot his rifle at somebody and play Militia...he got what he wanted. He killed somebody, tried to run behind the cops for protection...got chased for what he did and shot up some more people....but he was not "defending property" and certainly not his own property.

 

1. He was a 17 year old kid (fact)

2. He was across state lines (fact)

3. He was violating curfew (fact)

4. He was breaking the law (fact)

5. He had a rifle (fact)

6. He killed somebody (fact)

7. He ran after killing somebody toward the police (fact)

8. He got chased by witnesses who saw him kill somebody (fact)

9. He shot more people after being chased (fact)

11. He was not hired to be security for any property in the city of Kenosha (fact)

10. He owned no property in the city of Kenosha Wisconsin (fact)

 

 

I am pretty spot on with my facts...care to dispute anything I just listed?

 

 

Just now, Tie Dye Samurai said:

OK James, I said that he was a 17 year old kid across state lines violating a curfew (breaking the law) looking to shoot his rifle at somebody and play Militia...he got what he wanted. He killed somebody, tried to run behind the cops for protection...got chased for what he did and shot up some more people....but he was not "defending property" and certainly not his own property.

 

 

He worked in Kenosha, he was there to defend property.

He was not looking to kill, he was attacked and defended himself.

He immediately tried to surrender to police.

He was chased down, attacked by an armed mob and defended himself again.

He surrendered to the police.

 

Strange how some are so happy to side with the violent mobs destroying property.

 

 

5 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

He worked in Kenosha, he was there to defend property.

He was not looking to kill, he was attacked and defended himself.

He immediately tried to surrender to police.

He was chased down, attacked by an armed mob and defended himself again.

He surrendered to the police.

 

Strange how some are so happy to side with the violent mobs destroying property.

 

 

He worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha (he was not "defending" the pool or the beach.

he was still breaking the law being out after curfew across state lines roaming the streets with a rifle

He chased somebody down in the car dealership parking lot and shot them then is recorded saying "I just killed somebody"

He never surrendered to the police until he got all the way home the next morning...he left the scene of the crime without telling the Kenosha police what he did

 

Strange how some are so happy to side with a murderer...at least I left your facts in my post James and didnt edit them out...try it sometime

 

 

15 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

He worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha (he was not "defending" the pool or the beach.

he was still breaking the law being out after curfew across state lines roaming the streets with a rifle

He chased somebody down in the car dealership parking lot and shot them then is recorded saying "I just killed somebody"

He never surrendered to the police until he got all the way home the next morning...he left the scene of the crime without telling the Kenosha police what he did

 

Strange how some are so happy to side with a murderer...at least I left your facts in my post James and didnt edit them out...try it sometime

 

I side with someone defending the community in which they work and who acted only in self defence.

You side with a violent mob burning <deleted> down. Up to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please stay on topic.  Rittenhouse is not the topic and continued arguing about him and his situation will result in warnings and suspensions being issued.

 

7 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Someone who was trying to protect property from violent left wing rioters.

 

The damage from riots and looting across the U.S. following the death of George Floyd is estimated to be the costliest in insurance history – between $1 billion and $2 billion.

 

Course he was ....wanna buy a bridge ?

10 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Quite a rapid judgement for someone who was there for such a short time.

Im currently reading 'Deep South ' by Paul Theroux....so should you !

6 hours ago, tomauasia said:

The judges were not listening lol. Corrupt rats. I been following closely.

Fantasising does not equate to following closely !

20 hours ago, vandeventer said:

must all have to except it,

Therein lies the issue of course.

nobody can't blame trump for what he's doing! i'm not american, yet i knew one couldn't trust that man, so how comes he was elected on the first place? anyway, from now on, the usa aren't entitled to start lecturing other states like china or russia about democracy

2 minutes ago, Pique Dard said:

nobody can't blame trump for what he's doing! i'm not american, yet i knew one couldn't trust that man, so how comes he was elected on the first place? anyway, from now on, the usa aren't entitled to start lecturing other states like china or russia about democracy

When Xi or Putin get voted out of office you'll have a point. Until then, not so much.

On 12/15/2020 at 8:17 PM, joecoolfrog said:

Course he was ....wanna buy a bridge ?

 

Trying to offload it before an angry left wing mob burn it down?

23 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

 i'm not american, yet i knew one couldn't trust that man, so how comes he was elected on the first place? anyway, from now on, the usa aren't entitled to start lecturing other states like china or russia about democracy

 

Yes, that "accomplishment" sadly may be one of the main ones of the sorry, sordid authoritarian 4 years of Donald Trump -- sorely damaging the U.S. as a voice for world democracy -- much to the delight of various anti-democratic regimes like Russia, China and others.

On 12/17/2020 at 3:23 PM, Pique Dard said:

nobody can't blame trump for what he's doing! i'm not american, yet i knew one couldn't trust that man, so how comes he was elected on the first place? anyway, from now on, the usa aren't entitled to start lecturing other states like china or russia about democracy

 

Quite right, with the state of that election.

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Quite right, with the state of that election.

Which state?

7 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Quite right, with the state of that election.

You mean the most secure election in the history of the US?  Quite the achievement considering the pandemic, and the current administrations attempts to sabotage it.

10 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Quite right, with the state of that election.

The state of the election final popular vote margin had Biden increased by 4.5 points or by 7 million. American voters had enough of this criminal grifter in the current state. 

17 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Trying to offload it before an angry left wing mob burn it down?

He's probably trying to sell now before Covid-19 gets the mask refusing geniuses most likely to want to buy one.

Looks like slowly Dominion is threatening Powell to go back down or she will be taken to court. With the fraud claims shouted from the roof tops but no evidence at all provided IMO they stand a very good chance in court.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/17/dominion-demands-sidney-powell-retract-knowingly-baseless-voting-machine-conspiracy-theory/

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Looks like slowly Dominion is threatening Powell to go back down or she will be taken to court. With the fraud claims shouted from the roof tops but no evidence at all provided IMO they stand a very good chance in court.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/17/dominion-demands-sidney-powell-retract-knowingly-baseless-voting-machine-conspiracy-theory/

Just sue her, and the others, for defamation.  That's they only way they'll listen.

39 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Just sue her, and the others, for defamation.  That's they only way they'll listen.

Agree, I think they should have done so already. Also civil suit for damages should be done.