UK asks EU for Brexit grace period extension to 2023, BBC reports

[kingdong]

45 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

So if your country's citizens are unhappy about the EU's laughable handling of the vaccine rollout, how exactly will they get rid of the people who screwed up? 

Well they won,t be given an election thats for sure.

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

Temper temper,i didn,t steal your bike.

True, you did not steel my bike.

But you ruined my belief in the possibility of intelligent discussions about Brexit.

And in the possibility to apply the same punctuation on this forum.

 

Just a small suggestion, so that your post could become readable instead of barely decryptable:

Replace "Temper temper,i didn,t steal your bike." by "Temper, temper. I didn't steal your bike".

Or better even: Think of a better reply.

you,reWelcome.

[Throatwobbler]

14 hours ago, joebrown said:

It's strange you should use the words "American overlords" in your post. Thanks to many Americans' ultimate sacrifice in Operation Overlord neither my national anthem, nor the French ever changed to "Deutschland, Deutschland Uber Alles". The French, despite their protestations still have Vichy characteristics when dealing with Germany. Weren't they the one's who built tree-lined roads to ensure the German Army marched in the shade?

Germany has always hungered for power in Europe, and with the EU and French help they have it. Thankfully, the UK has 'seen the light' once again!

Thank you for prooving that a lot of Brexiteers are old folks who are still living 70 years in the past. It would be nice if you got to living in current times.

 

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, Tofer said:

 To give the EU time to get their act together, ratify the deal, and quit their petty antics . Or maybe they would prefer we call it quits and revert to a complete no deal....

 

2 hours ago, oldhippy said:

How I wish to have a discussion with an intelligent brexiteer........

Exactly.

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

True, you did not steel my bike.

But you ruined my belief in the possibility of intelligent discussions about Brexit.

And in the possibility to apply the same punctuation on this forum.

 

Just a small suggestion, so that your post could become readable instead of barely decryptable:

Replace "Temper temper,i didn,t steal your bike." by "Temper, temper. I didn't steal your bike".

Or better even: Think of a better reply.

you,reWelcome.

I place as much effort into the content presentation in replying to one of your posts as i do in leaving a note for the milkman.

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

I place as much effort into the content presentation in replying to one of your posts as i do in leaving a note for the milkman.

Don't flatter yourself.

ALL your post are written like that.

It would be a sign of respect to other posters if you would use proper punctuation.

Note for the milkman? Does the milkman not deserve respect? Soon you might sing

 that Herman's Hermits song......

Edited February 4, 2021 by oldhippy
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[kingdong]

Just now, oldhippy said:

Don't flatter yourself.

ALL your post are written like that.

It would be a sign of respect to other posters if you would use proper punctuation.

Note for the milkman? Does the milkman not deserve respect? Soon you might sing

 that Herman Hermits song......

The only possibllity of bad punctuation was i should have used a capital letter instead of lower case for the letter I, Is that the best you can do?and as for my milkman,no i haven,t got any respect for him,hes a pig ignorant slag.

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

I place as much effort into the content presentation in replying to one of your posts as i do in leaving a note for the milkman.

I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed.

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Don't flatter yourself.

ALL your post are written like that.

It would be a sign of respect to other posters if you would use proper punctuation.

Note for the milkman? Does the milkman not deserve respect? Soon you might sing

 that Herman Hermits song......

All your post are written like that? Out of respect for other posters shouldn,t you try writing posts they can understand?

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

It would be a sign of respect to other posters if you would use proper punctuation.

Given the fact that doesn’t even know that the EU holds elections every five year, it seems to be a lack of education rather than a lack of respect. 
 

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

All your post are written like that? Out of respect for other posters shouldn,t you try writing posts they can understand?

shouldn,t ????????

I rest my case.

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

shouldn,t ????????

I rest my case.

Woehaaaaaaaa....

I rest my CASE...... get it?

[kingdong]

Just now, oldhippy said:

Woehaaaaaaaa....

I rest my CASE...... get it?

Calm yourself dear

[GrandPapillon]

can we say it again? ok, I will: "told you so" ????

Edited February 4, 2021 by GrandPapillon

[joecoolfrog]

On 2/3/2021 at 1:54 PM, placeholder said:

A "tantrum" that had no practical consequences? What damage did the UK suffer as a result? More like a contrived gambit to obscure the ill-preparedness of the UK govt.

Well that hardly explains the reaction of many eurocrats to the delay in the vaccine rollout and the commisions NI blunder .

The Germans in particular have been scathing and it takes something pretty special to unite Tories , Labour , SNP , Sinn Fein , Dublin and the Unionists !!

[candide]

4 hours ago, Tofer said:

 Since you frequently point out the EU is a "club", why should they?

 

Diplomatic status is reserved for Country representatives.

Well, in this case, UK should contact each member state separately in order to get their approval for a grace period. ????

[tebee]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

OK explain what part anybody outside of Johnson’s Government played  in signing the deal Johnson signed and what part did anyone outside of Johnson’s Government play in begging the EU for an extension of ‘grace’?

 

 

 

 

 

This problem is entirely of Johnson's own making - see

 

https://davidallengreen.com/2021/02/four-examples-of-prime-ministerial-power-how-boris-johnson-in-fact-did-everything-he-could-for-there-to-be-a-trade-barrier-down-the-irish-sea/

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

Thank you for prooving that a lot of Brexiteers are old folks who are still living 70 years in the past. It would be nice if you got to living in current times.

 

Typical of the Remainers, who are clinging on to the last 47 years. They never knew what it was all about but followed their lefty press. 

Meanwhile, have kicked out the past and are looking forward to a new future for the U.K. 

[tebee]

Good explanation from the BBC of the current problem and how it came about 

 

 

 

Original from the BBC website - same thing, but I know we don't consider Twitter an authoritative source here, but the twitter link is much nicer !

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55934636?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=55934636%26What's the deal on Northern Ireland and Brexit%3F%262021-02-04T11%3A29%3A30.707Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:bbc:cps:curie:asset:576a2757-9504-4e40-92cc-05d009c6c4ec&pinned_post_asset_id=55934636&pinned_post_type=share

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, kingdong said:

Well they won,t be given an election thats for sure.

Wrong, again.

 

Every nation in the EU holds regular elections national, regional and local elections.

 

 

[robblok]

6 hours ago, kingdong said:

Try to understand the concepts of courtesy and reason and it just might happen.

Not really as most Brexiteers are not that bright as they still don't want to admit that their leaders have screwed up. Promises have not been kept and project fear is project realism. 

 

The most intelligent Brexiteers are those that turned remainder. Its never to late to change an opinion.

[robblok]

5 hours ago, tebee said:

Good explanation from the BBC of the current problem and how it came about 

 

 

 

Original from the BBC website - same thing, but I know we don't consider Twitter an authoritative source here, but the twitter link is much nicer !

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55934636?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=55934636%26What's the deal on Northern Ireland and Brexit%3F%262021-02-04T11%3A29%3A30.707Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:bbc:cps:curie:asset:576a2757-9504-4e40-92cc-05d009c6c4ec&pinned_post_asset_id=55934636&pinned_post_type=share

Great piece of information, it is as it has always been Brexiteers been warned, ignored warnings called it project fear and then when it becomes reality play the victim. 

 

Just unify Ireland get it in the EU, problem solved, wait a bit for Scotland to follow. ????

 

But seriously more and more people in N ireland are becoming pro EU and there is a clause in the good friday accords for them to unify and get in the EU. So these problems might make that a far more realistic thing.

 

Its just stupid of the Brexiteers that they have ignored it all and now put the blame somewhere else. 

[JonnyF]

40 minutes ago, robblok said:

Not really as most Brexiteers are not that bright as they still don't want to admit that their leaders have screwed up. Promises have not been kept and project fear is project realism. 

 

The most intelligent Brexiteers are those that turned remainder. Its never to late to change an opinion.

Actually Project Fear was a million job losses, house prices crashing, no medicine, GDP down 10%, mass outbreaks of super gonnorhea etc. none of which has happened.

 

Project Fear wasn't about normal teething problems like we've been having. Brexiteers were well aware that there would be some short term difficulties and we made an informed decision that it was a price worth paying to be free of the corrupt mess that is the EU. 

 

I have no regrets whatsoever. In fact we have tangible benefits in the vaccine rollout much sooner than I had anticipated. I'm delighted with the result. It seems the "Remainders" as you call them (which is quite fitting actually as they do seem to have only a fraction of the intelligence of Leavers) who seem angry. I'm sat back chilling and smoking a fat cigar.????

[robblok]

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually Project Fear was a million job losses, house prices crashing, no medicine, GDP down 10%, mass outbreaks of super gonnorhea etc. none of which has happened.

 

Project Fear wasn't about normal teething problems like we've been having. Brexiteers were well aware that there would be some short term difficulties and we made an informed decision that it was a price worth paying to be free of the corrupt mess that is the EU. 

 

I have no regrets whatsoever. In fact we have tangible benefits in the vaccine rollout much sooner than I had anticipated. I'm delighted with the result. It seems the "Remainders" as you call them (which is quite fitting actually as they do seem to have only a fraction of the intelligence of Leavers) who seem angry. I'm sat back chilling and smoking a fat cigar.????

Your funny, really funny. I mean calling a 2 year grace periode. I mean 2 year long teething problems.. That is not teething. That is structural.

[david555]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Your funny, really funny. I mean calling a 2 year grace periode. I mean 2 year long teething problems.. That is not teething. That is structural.

 

If the really insist on that ..., E.U. should make the only counter offer to get a full paid extension until 2023 ..... as Boris like more   "would go lie in a ditch " as he said ..... they quickly would " back of " from this ridiculous for ever postponing "wonderful" (?) brexit grace request ...????

 

E.U. is prepared for this brexit  , U.K. not and dragging feet , hoping to get more out of negotiations ...their problem , not our E.U. one 

 

Barnier pointed out from beginning this all trade could not be done all in such short timeframe 

Edited February 5, 2021 by david555

[Tofer]

On 2/4/2021 at 1:25 AM, welovesundaysatspace said:

Thanks to the EU, who negotiated all those deals before the UK could roll them over

 

Still deluded... How many times do you need reminding, or does it never sink in?

 

Those deals are as much our deals since, lest you forgot, we were part of the EU when they were negotiated. Furthermore, the new deals are not a complete replica / cut and paste.

 

Got it now? Or do we need to keep repeating it for the next 100's of Brexit related posts.... ????

[Tofer]

On 2/4/2021 at 1:44 AM, bkk_mike said:

Seriously - what exactly is the "gain" of Brexit. Still to hear something other than the sovereignty bull-<deleted>.

 

Take those blinkers off and read / listen to the news, and you'll find out.

 

For instance, since you asked, and let's see if you can take the facts with more grace than a certain 49'r, Cadbury's are moving their production of Dairy Milk products from Germany to UK along with a £15M investment and further investment in modernisation of the UK production plants.

 

But don't let a bit of good news spoil your sulking and pessimists pity party...

 

 

[transam]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Your funny, really funny. I mean calling a 2 year grace periode. I mean 2 year long teething problems.. That is not teething. That is structural.

It took us 4 years to actually implement what we voted for, which was leaving the EU, so time to sort the loose ends out is no big deal to the now free country. 

It's a bit different for you, as you told us your country needed the EU, which is great..

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Tofer said:

 

Take those blinkers off and read / listen to the news, and you'll find out.

 

For instance, since you asked, and let's see if you can take the facts with more grace than a certain 49'r, Cadbury's are moving their production of Dairy Milk products from Germany to UK along with a £15M investment and further investment in modernisation of the UK production plants.

 

But don't let a bit of good news spoil your sulking and pessimists pity party...

 

 

I hope HP sauce follows suit.........

[welovesundaysatspace]

25 minutes ago, Tofer said:

we were part of the EU when they were negotiated.

So you just confirmed what I wrote, that the EU negotiated those deals, then why do you need to get so agitated? There’s nothing wrong with copying the great work of others, so chill. 
 

25 minutes ago, Tofer said:

Furthermore, the new deals are not a complete replica / cut and paste.

I would love to hear your analysis.