UK had 'one or two' Brexit teething issues on fishing, minister says

[Tofer]

17 hours ago, candide said:

Fake quote!

 

Further confirmation of no substance to your claim...

[candide]

11 minutes ago, Tofer said:

 

Further confirmation of no substance to your claim...

You make yourself ridiculous by trolling about something I did not write

Edited March 27, 2021 by candide

[Tofer]

14 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

logistics - so basically higher paying jobs lost and maybe some lower paid ones back if they use the site for logistics... also potentially if this is required because of brexit this is not an economic benefit to consumers - just added cost for the same stuff.

 

Who's to say they will be lower paid jobs.

 

You also conveniently ignore the new investment of £700m for the site development,  bringing additional work to the construction industry, associated suppliers and service businesses.

[puchooay]

I love reading posts like this. At the end of the day it's all hot air.

 

Barstool stuff?

[bkkcanuck8]

4 hours ago, Tofer said:

 

Who's to say they will be lower paid jobs.

 

You also conveniently ignore the new investment of £700m for the site development,  bringing additional work to the construction industry, associated suppliers and service businesses.

Because they are not very likely to pay any more than prevailing market wages.    Using an existing example for a car plant (and 'site development'), it cost Ford $500+ million to retool a plant when they changed which vehicles are manufactured (and that was not including the cost for site development).  The same number of people will generally consume the same amount of other personal services (if they have the same disposable income), but manufacturing plants generally generate a lot more jobs since there is a lot of component inputs that are required as part of the process.   Site development itself keeps some people employed in the construction industry for a couple of years, and that is the end of it (how large a construction crew will the site need?  50 people (100)? I truly don't now but it is not like here in Thailand the construction sites I saw in downtown Toronto when looking down ... I did not see a huge number of people on site at any one time.

 

Now the question is this logistics needed because because of Brexit (where before it was not)... overall export/import has dropped considerably - and will likely not rebound for a long time (according to one conservative ... 10 years).   So is this extra cost needed for existing trade...  and thus making the products more expensive and less competitive?  That is one question I still have outstanding.  So we had a car plant that generated shipping jobs, now basically replacing them with just shipping jobs?

Edited March 27, 2021 by bkkcanuck8

[Loiner]

On 3/23/2021 at 9:26 AM, Hi from France said:

 

 

 

Now this is not the topic, but we're talking about the past. UK Foreign aid has just been extremely reduced (. 7% to. 5%).

 

So we are talking about the former UK, not the present national - populist one that emerged lately. 

 

 

 

So in real terms I think UK foreign aid is collapsing. 

 

Thanks to Boris and Rishi again. Along with Brexit and national - populist policies the UK gets even better. About time we cut the whole foreign aid budget and David Cameron's enshrined-in-law-give-aways.

 

If the EU had it's own cash rather than other countries contributions, they could support the whole world, as they do with EU peasant economies.

[Loiner]

On 3/24/2021 at 3:23 AM, Surelynot said:

Raab/Gove/Johnson....

 

...sorry I don't accept that

...sorry I don't recognize that

...I don't believe that

...I think you will find that

 

...and anyway it is early days.....just wait for ten years and see how things are going.

 

Sure, come back in ten years why dontcha? We'll be even happier. Think you Remainers could all stop moaning until then?

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

Sure, come back in ten years why dontcha? We'll be even happier. Think you Remainers could all stop moaning until then?

We have to wait ten years to get back to where we were?

For what?

Please tell us the benefits Brexit has delivered.

[Surelynot]

Just now, Rookiescot said:

We have to wait ten years to get back to where we were?

For what?

Please tell us the benefits Brexit has delivered.

That ßloody zip file......why won't they let us have a peek?

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

That ßloody zip file......why won't they let us have a peek?

Its only for the special kids to look at ????

[Loiner]

9 hours ago, puchooay said:

I love reading posts like this. At the end of the day it's all hot air.

 

Barstool stuff?

Yes, they’re full of it and usually resort to quoting somebody else’s hot air, maybe to add an ‘air’ of confidence to their exhausts. 
 

Nothing wrong with barstools at all. They are often found under founts of wisdom. Not that many of our Remainer pontificates admit to sitting on any. 

[cocoonclub]

On 3/26/2021 at 11:15 AM, Tofer said:

 

You need to check back, since this, as stated, is a direct copy of what he said, hence the italics.

Yes, I know that. And, as I wrote, the direct copy of what he said shows that he didn’t say or imply what you claimed he did. “the italics” clearly say something different than what you claimed. Hence my comment that “According to you own quote, that’s not what he said or implied.”

 

 

Edited March 28, 2021 by cocoonclub

[tebee]

An now finally the EU is starting to take actions about the illegal immigrants there ....

 

https://global247news.com/2021/03/26/tears-flow-for-brits-as-they-head-home-to-avoid-being-deported-as-illegals-in-spain/amp/?fbclid=IwAR15A8TWaGg0OKSy2AiRusAg5ypRg_nCsYPYEEDmP9mNWMGXpwbyL0v0fvQ

 

Another Brexit bonus

[Rookiescot]

28 minutes ago, tebee said:

An now finally the EU is starting to take actions about the illegal immigrants there ....

 

https://global247news.com/2021/03/26/tears-flow-for-brits-as-they-head-home-to-avoid-being-deported-as-illegals-in-spain/amp/?fbclid=IwAR15A8TWaGg0OKSy2AiRusAg5ypRg_nCsYPYEEDmP9mNWMGXpwbyL0v0fvQ

 

Another Brexit bonus

 

Another returning at Malaga airport today was Shaun Cromber who despite voting for Britain to leave the EU, didn’t believe it would end his Spanish lifestyle, he said: ” Yes I voted out, but I didn’t realise it would come to this, my application has been rejected and we are on our way home – the wife is in tears, she’s distraught if I’m honest and I’m not too happy at the prospect of returning back to the UK".

 

????????????????????

[tebee]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Another returning at Malaga airport today was Shaun Cromber who despite voting for Britain to leave the EU, didn’t believe it would end his Spanish lifestyle, he said: ” Yes I voted out, but I didn’t realise it would come to this, my application has been rejected and we are on our way home – the wife is in tears, she’s distraught if I’m honest and I’m not too happy at the prospect of returning back to the UK".

 

????????????????????

 

So sad.....

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, tebee said:

 

So sad.....

I can hardly contain myself. ????

[tebee]

Came across this which lists the steps you need to go through to export a pork chop to Paris post brexit as opposed to before.

 

 

Lucky we had Brexit to avoid all that EU red tape .....

 

This is what happens to every other third country too, just most of them don't export as much to the EU as we used too.

 

 

 

[Mavideol]

20 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

We have to wait ten years to get back to where we were?

For what?

Please tell us the benefits Brexit has delivered.

they will claim that's to early to judge/to see, have to wait 10 years   555

[tebee]

22 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

We have to wait ten years to get back to where we were?

For what?

Please tell us the benefits Brexit has delivered.

 

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

they will claim that's to early to judge/to see, have to wait 10 years   555

 

 

There are no Brexit benefits and never will be.

 

The whole country was gaslighted by the Brexiters and Tories.

 

Now they and the right-wing press are constantly fermenting conflict with the EU to get their supporters stoked up and keep them voting for Boris

 

It's not going to end well......   

[Loiner]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Another returning at Malaga airport today was Shaun Cromber who despite voting for Britain to leave the EU, didn’t believe it would end his Spanish lifestyle, he said: ” Yes I voted out, but I didn’t realise it would come to this, my application has been rejected and we are on our way home – the wife is in tears, she’s distraught if I’m honest and I’m not too happy at the prospect of returning back to the UK".

 

????????????????????

 

It's clear the part he did not believe  "...my application has been rejected..."   is  due to the Spanish authorities action in some way. Some deportees having to return to UK would not stop anybody from voting to Leave. It's all about what happens to UK, not people in other countries even if they are British.

 

How many is the UK deporting? I think we are still accepting applications until June, to add to the 4 million+ Europeans who would prefer to be in the UK rather than their EU homelands.  Why do they want to come and stay in a UK the Remainers hate so much? Something not right with the Remainers arguments isn't there?

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

It's clear the part he did not believe  "...my application has been rejected..."   is  due to the Spanish authorities action in some way. Some deportees having to return to UK would not stop anybody from voting to Leave. It's all about what happens to UK, not people in other countries even if they are British.

 

How many is the UK deporting? I think we are still accepting applications until June, to add to the 4 million+ Europeans who would prefer to be in the UK rather than their EU homelands.  Why do they want to come and stay in a UK the Remainers hate so much? Something not right with the Remainers arguments isn't there?

Turkeys voted for Christmas.

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

they will claim that's to early to judge/to see, have to wait 10 years   555

 

We've judged already and it's great for the UK. In 10 years even the Remainers will have accepted that fact.

Europeans? Well, not so much. They will have had 10 years of increasing misery. If you think the EU vaccines debacle is bad, wait a bit longer for the next exits.

[Loiner]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Turkeys voted for Christmas.

Turkeys, not at all - were as happy as pigs in blankets. 
Remainers - the discarded giblets that nobody wants anymore after making gravy. 

Euros - they’re just stuffed. 

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

Turkeys, not at all - were as happy as pigs in blankets. 
Remainers - the discarded giblets that nobody wants anymore after making gravy. 

Euros - they’re just stuffed. 

That guy standing at Malaga airport did not seem as happy as a pig in a blanket.

He seemed very unhappy that what he voted for actually happened.

Same with most of the fishermen.

[7by7]

On 3/26/2021 at 11:27 PM, vinny41 said:

Honda Will Close Its UK And Turkish Factories As It Goes Electric

Honda has confirmed that its only European factory, in the English town of Swindon, will close in 2021 with the direct loss of around 3500 jobs. Britain’s exit from the EU is not the cause, Honda executives have said.

The EU and Japan recently struck a trade deal that eliminates tariffs on car exports between the two entities. It’s understood that now, with no financial penalties for making cars in Japan and exporting them to Europe, the last business case in favour of maintaining HUM has been removed.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/honda-will-close-its-uk-and-turkish-factories-to-go-electric/

 

So even though the new EU/Japan trade deal means that there will be no tariffs on car exports between the two, Honda say that Brexit was not the cause of them closing Swindon?

 

Well, if they say so.

 

As for tariff free trade, remember the UK/Japan deal gleefully announced by Liz Truss? Not only is it a shadow of the EU's, remember this wonderful piece of negotiating by her and her team: Brexit: Liz Truss secures tariff wins with her Japan trade deal – for products UK doesn’t export!

[tebee]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

 

We've judged already and it's great for the UK. In 10 years even the Remainers will have accepted that fact.

......

oh, no we wont........

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

oh, no we wont........

God, it's turning into a pantomime now. ????????????

[7by7]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

We've judged already and it's great for the UK

 Yet you are still unable to name one single benefit of Brexit!

 

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

In 10 years even the Remainers will have accepted that fact.

 

I cannot foresee anything which will convince me that Brexit was the right course for this country. But maybe if you were to mention even just one benefit of it, that may help persuade me.

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Europeans? Well, not so much. They will have had 10 years of increasing misery. If you think the EU vaccines debacle is bad, wait a bit longer for the next exits.

The EU have not handled the vaccine roll out at all well; but they are not alone in this. 

 

But tell, us; what other miseries are they suffering which Brexit has spared us?

[tebee]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

God, it's turning into a pantomime now. ????????????

 

Brexit has always been a pantomime....

[tebee]

2 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

...

The EU have not handled the vaccine roll out at all well; but they are not alone in this. 

....

The UK only won that by importing it and not doing any exports.

 

 

I've also read that the UK was paying three times the price the EU were, which is why AZ were so happy to send it all to the UK.