Motorcycle Theft

[canthai55]

For a little knowledge and a little money the pass code can be determined if you are in range of the bike when the owner approaches.

How do you think thieves the world over steal bikes and cars these days ?

As soon as manufacturers bring out this "security" the work around takes a very short time.

It is not hard.

[Moonlover]

20 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

For a little knowledge and a little money the pass code can be determined if you are in range of the bike when the owner approaches.

How do you think thieves the world over steal bikes and cars these days ?

As soon as manufacturers bring out this "security" the work around takes a very short time.

It is not hard.

The range of my key fob, with a good battery, is no more than 2 meters. (I've just tested it) So anyone who wishes to capture the code would have to be standing right next to me. I think I'd be aware of that and wonder just what he's up to.

 

He would then, having produced his cloned fob, have to hang around bike parks in the hope that the same motorcycle turns up one day so that he can nick it soon as the owner has left the park. 

 

I think the odds of that happening are pretty long, don't you?

[BritManToo]

Just now, Moonlover said:

The range of my key fob, with a good battery, is no more than 2 meters. (I've just tested it) So anyone who wishes to capture the code would have to be standing right next to me. I think I'd be aware of that and wonder just what he's up to.

You're assuming his scanner is as insensitive as your m/c receiver.

Which isn't the case.

 

As for stealing bikes, often they just load them onto the back of a pickup and drive away.

Edited May 25, 2021 by BritManToo

[tlandtday]

On 3/14/2021 at 11:15 AM, canthai55 said:

Buy First Class Insurance. Keep policy valid

No market for a stolen Forza - or any big bike here mostly.

No one with any sense would buy it if the green book can not be transferred into their name.

A Wave - on the other hand - has a ready market in neighboring countries.

 

 

There is a market simply drive it across a border and sell it.  

[canthai55]

53 minutes ago, tlandtday said:

There is a market simply drive it across a border and sell it.  

For a Forza ?

555

And how - pray tell - do you get it across the border without customs docs - or are you talking dead-of-night-Vigo-load ?

Interested to hear about this market for stolen big bikes in neighboring countries

Once Upon a Time ...

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, canthai55 said:

And how - pray tell - do you get it across the border without customs docs

Most border guards can be bribed.

Or you could probably drive it down a track in the jungle if you're a local.

There's still hundreds of trucks crossing the border, nobody looks in the back.

Edited May 25, 2021 by BritManToo

[tlandtday]

14 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

For a Forza ?

555

And how - pray tell - do you get it across the border without customs docs - or are you talking dead-of-night-Vigo-load ?

Interested to hear about this market for stolen big bikes in neighboring countries

Once Upon a Time ...

are you joking? how long have you been in thailand or se asia for that matter? or you even in thailand? 

[Ralf001]

15 hours ago, EdrigoSalvadore said:

I have a russian friend here, and he knows a guy who´s selling stolen motorbikes with forged green books, for about half the price a regular motobike.

 

Does he forged the numberplates as well ?

[BritManToo]

Just now, Ralf001 said:

 

Does he forged the numberplates as well ?

Do you really need a number plate?

In CM I see plenty of bikes driving around without them.

I just stuck the tax disk in my car, only 3 months left, I never go into town, so nobody cares.

My misses is worse, no tax, insurance or driving licence, her brother is a police Captain so she doesn't need any documents.

Edited May 25, 2021 by BritManToo

[Andy from Kent]

On 3/14/2021 at 2:39 PM, ChipButty said:

We got paid 50,000 baht to buy a new one

 

 

What compensation did you give to the boy for stealing the bike?  ????

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Do you really need a number plate?

In CM I see plenty of bikes driving around without them.

 

Yeah they go hand in hand with the book.

[canthai55]

19 minutes ago, tlandtday said:

are you joking? how long have you been in thailand or se asia for that matter? or you even in thailand? 

17 years here - more around the neighborhood

Waves have a market in Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos

Forza ? HD ? Ducati - 555

 

[canthai55]

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Or you could probably drive it down a track in the jungle if you're a local.

Yup - just ride your HD - or Duck - or Forza down a winding dirt jungle track - easy

I see many locals in Myanmar just dying to own one - 555

[canthai55]

Anyone know where I can get a set of Knobbys for my bike ?

Want to explore some jungle tracks

[tlandtday]

10 hours ago, canthai55 said:

17 years here - more around the neighborhood

Waves have a market in Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos

Forza ? HD ? Ducati - 555

 

https://www.khmermotors.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-maker:motorcycle_maker_ducati/

 

yeah no ducati in cambodia... probably not in bordering malaysia also... 

[NanLaew]

On 3/14/2021 at 12:03 PM, Moonlover said:

Their relative rarity would also make them an unattractive steal.

 

That and the fact that they are themselves unattractive.

 

On 3/14/2021 at 12:58 PM, 2 is 1 said:

On 3/14/2021 at 11:15 AM, canthai55 said:

No market for a stolen Forza - or any big bike here mostly.

"Big" "bike" 

 

Have you tried to pick one up?

[canthai55]

6 hours ago, tlandtday said:

https://www.khmermotors.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-maker:motorcycle_maker_ducati/

 

yeah no ducati in cambodia... probably not in bordering malaysia also... 

Topic is theft of bikes - not bike dealers

Changing horses in mid stream ?

555

[Ralf001]

17 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Yup - just ride your HD - or Duck - or Forza down a winding dirt jungle track - easy

 

 

Am looking to buy a Ducati Scrambler to do just that.

 

[thailand49]

As noted, big is too big, no market for it, get insurance with medical will run you around 5000 baht a year?

 

Your helmet has a better chance of being stolen than the bike.????

[canthai55]

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[hotchilli]

On 3/14/2021 at 2:46 PM, jackdd said:

If you worry about it, get insurance, more convenient than a lock ????

True about the insurance, if someone wants it they will take it.

A short piece of thick chain through the front wheel with a sturdy lock will put-off any chancers wanting to take it.

Anyone professional will just lift onto the back of something and take off.. but that ain't so easy with a bike like that.

They'll probably give yours a miss and go look for something else.

[whaleboneman]

On 3/15/2021 at 9:48 AM, expatjustice said:

Can anyone kindly explain since when a 180,XXX Baht motorcycle is considered expensive? 

 

lol a little over 5,000 USD...... I thought a expensive bike would be at least 10k onwards......

since we aren't as rich as you.

[ryanwiley]

Buy a Lifan! 

[The Theory]

I don't recommend disc locks. It made my motorcycle break caliper out of alignment, because someone tried to move my motorcycle (by pulling out of parking spot while the lock was attached. 
I recommend using a thick chain and lock. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by The Theory

[DefaultName]

On 3/14/2021 at 2:59 PM, ChipButty said:

Is there an alarm on that bike?

Yes.

[DefaultName]

On 3/15/2021 at 4:12 PM, xtrnuno41 said:

My problem with those is that I'm often parked in a line of bikes where I can't GET to the front to unlock it.

[Ireland32]

On 3/14/2021 at 2:54 PM, Andy from Kent said:

 

Have you considered buying a bike that won't cause you so much stress?

 

 

Oversized look at me , when roads busy you will sit still like a vehicle to big for Pattaya roads or lil moobaans 

[Ireland32]

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Most border guards can be bribed.

Or you could probably drive it down a track in the jungle if you're a local.

There's still hundreds of trucks crossing the border, nobody looks in the back.

I do taxis over border and go shopping nobody looks in boot either cases of Beer Lao ez 

[connda]

On 3/14/2021 at 11:15 AM, canthai55 said:

A Wave - on the other hand - has a ready market in neighboring countries.

Plus, if not locked to a solid object, most of the 125cc bikes and scooters can easily be picked up by two people (or one strong mother), placed in a truck-bed, and made to disappear.
All good advice by canthai55.
 

[Nanaplaza666]

On 3/14/2021 at 12:03 PM, Moonlover said:

The Forza is keyless isn't it, so you don't have much to worry about. That makes them all but impossible to ride off with. It also means that the ignition switch cannot be replaced without knowing the keycode.

Their relative rarity would also make them an unattractive steal.

Ride on with confidence and enjoy.

I don't know if you heard about keyreaders but they use them a lot in the west . Keyless cars get stolen by the bunch because they have machines that read the key and then their off with your brand new keyless car(motorbike). As people are saying , get first class insurance and if not , a good lock .