SURVEY: Will Thailand get the virus under control?

[Caldera]

This is difficult to answer, as it will be a mix of options #3 and #2 in all likelihood. They seem woefully underprepared for such a major outbreak: Only 400,000 test kits in stock, a vaccine that hasn't proven to be effective against the mutant they're now dealing with, ...

 

It almost looks as if they convinced themselves that they have it all covered, based on their performance or good luck in 2020.

 

[polpott]

I didn't realise that this was a forum for epidemiologists. Not being one myself I'll reply, "Ask an epidemiologist".

[karunasup]

is this price to pay (slow vaccinations, ugly 4th wave of covid-19, and possible mismanagement through 2021) for living in the land of smiles with low cost of living, etc? So, have to factor in the real cost of an  inept and corrupt system - even compared to other ASEAN nations

[Marco100]

59 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

There should be a 4th choice.  

Will the world ever get it sorted out.  

 

The problems with covid are not something anyone has figured out so it is wrong to comment about Thailand's in ability.

 

The same things that are causing trouble in Ontario Canda and the U.S. is that people do not take it seriously.  They still want to party likje there is no issue or nothing to worry about.

 

When bars and clubs are closed we seem to have it under control 

I am not English , but England seemed to me a very good example to follow .

Just learn from those who succeed ....

 

[Marco100]

52 minutes ago, Jaxxper said:

The key to it in my opinion is mass rapid vaccinations of the population of Thailand. Progress appears to have been very slow in this regard to be honest. 

I agree ???????? 

[Surelynot]

4 hours ago, wombat said:

it was under control and people who were sick went to hospital, then the govt fell victim to the testing scam where you needed a test to tell you if you had had covid...then the stats went crazy...stop testing and covid will go away.

Like it did Brazil do you mean?

[Surelynot]

It seems the main reason they are under-prepared is kowtowing to the special someone who wanted to corner the market in making the vaccine.....so vaccines from other sources were not ordered......people will now suffer as a consequence.

Edited April 11, 2021 by Surelynot

[connda]

If the government continues not to implement widespread testing - they'll get it under control.
If the government implements widespread testing - it will rage like wild-fire.

 

Perception is the key.  To ruin tourism for the foreseeable future or to paint a happy narrative. 

[4MyEgo]

3) No, the gov't is inept and we will see widespread illness and death.

 

Judging by the above, 50% voted this way at time pf posting, which tells me most TVF posters have little confidence in the Thai "democratically" elected government, hmmm, I wonder why that would be.

 

I would be very interested to know how this strain of the virus came into Thailand, especially when they are not supposed to be bringing in migrant workers, brown envelopes for truck loads possibly, but no ones talking or even looking that way.

 

This is what should be traced, not only where people with the virus have been, go to the other source and put an end to it, or is that too big that they won't take down their own vs brown envelopes ?

[Stocky]

Missing some options there.

 

The government is inept, but the CCSA, doctors, health workers and the army of over a million local health volunteers will hopefully get this mess under control.

[connda]

Given the poll results - this will be entertaining.  I hope they get it under control.
If they don't, there will probably be a huge backlash regarding the vaccine snafu as Thais start asking embarrassing questions about the snails-pace of vaccine acquisitions and roll-out as well as why the Thai AZ manufacturer isn't producing vaccines.  To these public inquiries someone will respond with anger, alcohol spray, and cardboard cutouts.   So, again - personally I hope they get it under control for the sake of Thailand.  I think a regional epidemic could create political instability and I've watch that play out over and over since elder Thaksin was deposed in 2006.  I'd rather not see in happen again even though I have no dog in the fight - I still reside here and I prefer residing in a peaceful country.

[Golden Triangle]

I posted this yesterday.

 

 

[polpott]

Just now, Golden Triangle said:

I posted this yesterday.

 

 

An article published in TV the other day listed all the sources for vaccines to thake Thailand to full vaccination. Home grown from Siam Bioscience wasn't one of them. The date for production to start has been put back several times, latest June. It now looks like they have abandoned the idea (probably funding went elsewhere, possibly Cayman Islands). Best not mention Siam Bioscience again.

[kynikoi]

I very much worry less about suffering covid than being denied return to Thailand and my job along with my Thai wife. The mountain of senseless paperwork $$, quarantine $$$ and business class flight $$$$. Assuming the latter still a thing?

 

So disappointed.

 

125th of 150. Jus' sayin

 

I have a Thai wife and a good job or I'd be gone. What's your silly excuse?

Edited April 11, 2021 by kynikoi

[connda]

24 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I posted this yesterday.

 

 

They keep saying that they are not impeding the import of vaccines, but then if you probe you get a backstory that the correct paperwork hasn't been submitting in the proper manner by the relevant parties, blah, blah, blah.  In typical Thai beauacratic fashion they'll point the finger at someone else while claiming they are not part of the problem.  Face-saving 101.  They should be fast-tracking application and permits for vaccines that have been given the green light in places like the US, UK, and EU.  Honestly, if they are going to let tourists in who have had one of the 10 or so vaccinations now being used globally, then those same vaccines should have been given the green light in Thailand.....yesterday.
But here we are - a handful of Sinovac and AZ were procured and given out to special people although some did make it to at risk groups.  But they seem to be more worried about Phuket's tourism (and tourism in general) than their own aged, at-risk populations and the welfare of the Thai population as a whole.
"Don't worry plebs, you'll start getting shots in June, maybe."

Edited April 11, 2021 by connda

[Alidiver]

Any opportunity to discredit UK.

It is know as UK strain because the UK have labs to identify different strains all the strains originated from China. 

[Golden Triangle]

11 minutes ago, polpott said:

An article published in TV the other day listed all the sources for vaccines to thake Thailand to full vaccination. Home grown from Siam Bioscience wasn't one of them. The date for production to start has been put back several times, latest June. It now looks like they have abandoned the idea (probably funding went elsewhere, possibly Cayman Islands). Best not mention Siam Bioscience again.

I thought AstraZeneca ( Thailand ) was exactly that Siam Bioscience? 

[unblocktheplanet]

6 hours ago, Freigeist365 said:

Any disease will run its natural course eventually, regardless of governments either trying to knee jerk reacting against it or not. In some cases it will destroy life, and in others strengthen the immune system of the healthy and strong ones. In a society, where we have been indoctrinated to bash and hate the strong, hard working and innovative ones while investing all our money, time and effort into getting even the weakest and laziest pulled through, a big natural "cleanup" is long, long overdue! May the strongest and the best of us survive.

Mate, you are one heartless b-tard. Don't deserve to be part of the human community...

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Mate, you are one heartless b-tard. Don't deserve to be part of the human community...

Couldn't agree with you more......thank he wasn't in charge of rolling out vaccines for polio, measles, whooping cough, rubella, mumps............

[Golden Triangle]

42 minutes ago, polpott said:

An article published in TV the other day listed all the sources for vaccines to thake Thailand to full vaccination. Home grown from Siam Bioscience wasn't one of them. The date for production to start has been put back several times, latest June. It now looks like they have abandoned the idea (probably funding went elsewhere, possibly Cayman Islands). Best not mention Siam Bioscience again.

 

Here you go.

 

Ministry of Public Health, Siam Bioscience, SCG and AstraZeneca join forces on COVID-19 vaccine manufacturing for Thailand and South East Asia

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Supports vaccination in Thailand starting in the first half of 2021

Bangkok, Thailand, 12 October 2020 – The Ministry of Public Health, Siam Bioscience, SCG and British-Swedish biopharmaceutical company AstraZeneca today signed a Letter of Intent on the manufacturing and supply of the University of Oxford’s potential COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222.

[RichardColeman]

Better survey would be , when do you think we should open up and take a chance with it.

[Golden Triangle]

2 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Better survey would be , when do you think we should open up and take a chance with it.

Let's see what happens during and after Songkran first, might be a good indicator as to the way forward. ????

[Forza2002]

Pretty obvious why Sinovac is now the preferred vaccine supplier given who has a major holding in the company. Only problem is that Sinovac does not have a good efficacy against the UK CV19 strain which is now prevalent in Thailand and a super spreader... 

[polpott]

Just now, Golden Triangle said:

 

Here you go.

 

Ministry of Public Health, Siam Bioscience, SCG and AstraZeneca join forces on COVID-19 vaccine manufacturing for Thailand and South East Asia

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Supports vaccination in Thailand starting in the first half of 2021

Bangkok, Thailand, 12 October 2020 – The Ministry of Public Health, Siam Bioscience, SCG and British-Swedish biopharmaceutical company AstraZeneca today signed a Letter of Intent on the manufacturing and supply of the University of Oxford’s potential COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222.

Exactly. So where is it?

[Natai Beach]

The U.K. strain has proven itself to spread more easily and a bigger killer. 
 

They should have locked down the U.K. when they discovered in September last year it or at least when they knew it was worse in November. 
 

The politicians were playing it down, they were distracted by Brexit but the medical experts called it last year. They said it was more contagious, it would kill more, the symptoms would be more severe and that the vaccines would not be as effective against it. They were spot on. 
 

Now it is too late. It has spread across the globe.

[polpott]

Just now, Natai Beach said:

The U.K. strain has proven itself to spread more easily and a bigger killer. 
 

They should have locked down the U.K. when they discovered in September last year it or at least when they knew it was worse in November. 
 

The politicians were playing it down, they were distracted by Brexit but the medical experts called it last year. They said it was more contagious, it would kill more, the symptoms would be more severe and that the vaccines would not be as effective against it. They were spot on. 
 

Now it is too late. It has spread across the globe.

It would have been too late then, it was already in several countries at that time. Furthermore, there's no hard evidence that it originated in the UK. 

[faraday]

How much do you get paid for these surveys , Scott,?

 

3...2..1.....

 

And my post is gone....no doubt labelled as a troll post.

[polpott]

Just now, faraday said:

How much do you get paid for these surveys , Scott,?

 

3...2..1.....

 

And my post is gone....no doubt labelled as a troll post.

Could do a survey of whether people would like to see the return of "World News"

[cyril sneer]

I think new strains will become more frequent, stronger and eventually wipe out the human race. 
 

This is the beginning of the end.

[placeholder]

11 minutes ago, faraday said:

How much do you get paid for these surveys , Scott,?

 

3...2..1.....

 

And my post is gone....no doubt labelled as a troll post.

Because, no doubt, it is?