5 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Not good.

With virtually no vaccines available it's what we all expected... good work Prayut.

Yikes. I guess we could try living with courage! But...nah, that's gotta be crazy

5 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Well they couldn't sweep those prison infections under the carpet, same as they limit their testing outside to keep the numbers low.

 

I wonder what the infection ratio was in the prisons

 

According to BP the infection rates were 55% in the Bangkok Remand prison and 23% in the Central Women's Correctional Institution.

5 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Does anybody believe in their vaccine? 

Anutin does.

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

And jointly claim everything is under control.

Or they claim the "joint" is under control and were quoted out of their minds context.

5 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Well they couldn't sweep those prison infections under the carpet, same as they limit their testing outside to keep the numbers low.

 

I wonder what the infection ratio was in the prisons

The real question is how much faith can you put in the (remarkably stable) 2000 - 2500 new cases reported daily. How many more cases are accruing behind the scenes to be reported (or not) later ?

2 minutes ago, Arkady said:

 

According to BP the infection rates were 55% in the Bangkok Remand prison and 23% in the Central Women's Correctional Institution.

 

Probably some of the 45% and 67% respectively not tested positive were either not yet tested, false negative or negative on testing but now positive after a few more nights sleeping in inhuman conditions the prison like sardines in a can.

 

Next stop is probably exponential growth rates inother institutions where people live in closes quarters to each other like the Thai military.

5 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Does anybody believe in their vaccine? 

I don't even believe in their placebo!

Yea what else was he going to say, absolute whitewash. Now lets get to all the other over crowded prisons in Thailand.

 

"Justice Minister Somsak Thepsutin denies prisons were unprepared for handling as authorities had previously prepared more than 1000 beds. Almost 3,000 new cases detected in 2 #Bangkok prisons. Insists prison transparent with details."

 

 

https://twitter.com/MayWongCNA/status/1392753133588148224

 

Just now, Dogmatix said:

 

Probably some of the 45% and 67% respectively not tested positive were either not yet tested, false negative or negative on testing but now positive after a few more nights sleeping in inhuman conditions the prison like sardines in a can.

 

Next stop is probably exponential growth rates inother institutions where people live in closes quarters to each other like the Thai military.

Or the mental health system where patients are similarly housed.

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Outside of prisons, the numbers have flatlined.

Reported numbers have. How much real testing is being done? 

1 hour ago, sambum said:

 

Its all under control yes for the PM and his staff they were the first to get vaccines 

3 hours ago, Trujillo said:

I hate to rain on your parade, but how many of the positive test prisoners died? 

Don't we have that figure? Ah, right; perhaps it's because the number is zero?

 

Nice work keeping the general public scared stiff. As long as the media and certain foreign blogger(s) keep associating positive test results with death, we will never get out of chasing our tail. 

 

"The wave from Songkran continues, and without folks understanding that without mass testing everywhere it keeps slithering along."

 

I forgot; please explain to me again how more testing stops a virus from spreading? 

You are either kidding, trolling or have absolutely no idea.

25 minutes ago, jomtienisgood said:

Correct, but since you know that it means you were there too...So, not only the average Thai doesn't understand. 5555555

Hey, I was in the car passing by mate, never went into the market!

5 hours ago, SmartyMarty said:

we can speculate all we want about china's numbers, but we'll never know for sure. 

The difference is China went into a real lockdown, not this pretending one in Thailand. 

Current main clusters in Bangkok:

 

• Forty-one crowded communities in Khlong Toei district
• Bon Kai community in Pathumwan
• A construction worker camp in On Nut, Suan Luang
• Sampeng market in Samphanthawong
• Baan Yuan community in Dusit
• An apartment community in Din Daeng
• Saphan Khao Market in Maha Nak, Dusit
• Pratunam area in Ratchathewi
• Rama IX area in Din Daeng
• Bobae area in Pom Prap Sattru Phai
• Silom area in Bang Rak
• Pak Khlong Talat and Yodpiman markets in Phra Nakhon

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27466/prison-screening-yields-record-number-of-covid-cases/

An eye candy social media video and a duplicate news item post have been removed.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392755883105419265

 

Health officials in Phuket reported 19 new cases today and one death. Out of 575 infections, 200 remain in hospital #Thailand

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Outside of prisons, the numbers have flatlined.

You mean the Boss Generals numbers

Just now, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392755883105419265

 

Health officials in Phuket reported 19 new cases today and one death. Out of 575 infections, 200 remain in hospital #Thailand

1st July is still on...............honest!

2 hours ago, DavisH said:

Numbers from prisons SHOUL be keps separate, so we can see the rate of community spread as a separate rate. This makes epidemilogical sense. If I have 4800 cases in a day, I sure as heck want to know the sources of these infections. 

But prisons are not entirely separated from the general population at large. As has been pointed out several times, there are several interface points.

 

It’s irrelevant anyway, the math to add them in to make a combined total, or deduct them to make two separate totals, is easy. And I’m sure that the sources of cases from one big total would be analyzed just as easily as from two separate figures.

4 minutes ago, Clydesdale said:

The real question is how much faith can you put in the (remarkably stable) 2000 - 2500 new cases reported daily. How many more cases are accruing behind the scenes to be reported (or not) later ?

 

 With a certain amount of deliberate covering up and reduction in mass testing, the real numbers outside the prison population are probably significantly higher than the 2,000 a day. 

We're getting closer.  Start of the 3rd wave to today, but again, why is nearly 3,000 being reported only today?

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392757306236956673

 

In a new press release, the Corrections Department has clarified that the number of infected people in prison reported yesterday (Bangkok Remand Prison 1,794 cases & Central Women's Correctional Institution 1,039 cases) was the total since the start of the new outbreak in April.

 

 

As for the prisons, they got caught covering up cases in just two prisons in Bangkok but there are a lot more around the country.  Human rights watch said Thailand's prisons house 380,000 inmates of whom about 20% are detained without bail awaiting trial. Some prisons, such as Chiang Mai prison have been reporting cases, but it is a fair bet that many have been told to cover up cases like those two Bangkok prisons tried to do.  With the dreadful conditions in all Thai prisons it is hard to imagine there are less than 50-60,000 cases in prisons nationwide by now.

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Panupong "Mike" Jadnok becomes the latest activist to test positive for COVID-19 while being detained in prison. His attorney said he is seeking bail today since he is worried about Panupong's asthma

 

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1392676374003867649

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1392759532611260417

 

Update: Panupong’s bail hearing has been postponed by the court. Noraset Nanongtoom, a lawyer from the Thai Lawyers for Human Rights group who represents the activists, also said he tested positive for COVID-19. #โควิดเรือนจํา #Thailand #KE

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It's possible the prison cases episode is a paradigm for the country.

The cases are out there all along... But they don't get officially reported until someone comes along to officially tally and report them.

I also think that Thailand's antiquated system of communication should be kept in mind. Each province is its own little isolated system and there is no centralised backbone of interconnection between different elements of each.

 

For example, if you buy a car in one province and want to register it in a different one then there are so many problems attached because Thailand is still running on the old agricultural model which assumes that everyone stays close to home, with their families - there is no central national computerised register like those which exist in progressive nations.

 

And if communication links are like this for one aspect of government, then it seems safe to assume that the entire system of communication and links between provinces and central government are the same - including hospitals and prisons.

 

And as there appears to be no automated-system for reporting statistics from hospitals and prisons, then the good old Thai Loss of Face kicks in . . . hospital managers and prison governors don't want to lose face and admit their institutions are rotten with Covid, and so fudge the figures. The Provincial Goveror is sent these massaged figures (or they are simply not reported to him) and he, in turn, blushes with embarrassment and saves his own face by lying about them when he makes his report - by hand - to central government.

 

And then then the representatives of central government do the same thing all over again, themselves.

 

Result: an agricultural system of provincial management combined with iron-age computer (mis)usage and national loss-of-face-syndrome encourages wildly inaccurate reporting of facts.

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

1st July is still on...............honest!

They've got 2 weeks to sort this mess out before the kiddies go back to school which they said they were confident they would do.

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

They've got 2 weeks to sort this mess out before the kiddies go back to school which they said they were confident they would do.

01 June will never happen.  01 July a possibility.

6 hours ago, WineOh said:

Here we go.

The flood gates are about to burst wide open..

 

Full lockdown on the horizon. 

I'm safe in my room with my wine????

And I'm safe in Bali with mine.???????? Cheers.

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1392759532611260417

 

Update: Panupong’s bail hearing has been postponed by the court. Noraset Nanongtoom, a lawyer from the Thai Lawyers for Human Rights group who represents the activists, also said he tested positive for COVID-19. #โควิดเรือนจํา #Thailand #KE

In light of all these cases, it reinforces my suspicion that this 2000 a day mark that they normally have is deliberately being suppressed and cases are on the back burner either through not getting tested or in the system's bottomless draw.