Ministry of Public Health graphic showing Thailand's daily new COVID case tallies since the start of the current third wave outbreak at the beginning of April.

 

The blue segments show self-referred cases. The tan segments show those cases found via outreach testing. The gray portion for the latest day today shows the cases related to the new Bangkok prisons outbreak.

 

 

Interesting, it looks like they're not counting the Bangkok prison cases as part of Bangkok's province totals, the number 1 line on the chart below with 1,069 new cases reported today:

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, adam1 said:

I've been hearing this for over a year now...  still hasn't happened. 

4,000+ cases today.

 

Bit different from 5/10 cases that were being reported just a couple months ago, isn't it?

 

I'd say the floodgates are now open, and if not they are bursting at the seams. 

 

 

Of the 4,887 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours: - 1,439 were found via tests at medical facilities - 597 via proactive tests - 16 in quarantine facilities - 2,835 were found at two prisons

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1392715406444417032

 

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

It was inevitable and oh so predictable. 

 

There is no social distancing at all in Chonburi. Markets are crowded as normal with ridiculous amounts of people there. The market in Naklua was rammed with people last night and motorbikes lined up like sardines in a can.

 

I don't think the average Thai understands that going to these places is a health risk or maybe they don't care.

 

Oh well, we are about to witness a major crisis IMO. 

another doom-monger....    why are people so fond of doom-mongering and hand-wringing?

 

31 minutes ago, anchadian said:

1,209 in serious condition - 406 of them in ventilators)

Recognizing that complications from ventilator use can occur, some intensive care units (ICUs) have started to delay putting a COVID-19 patient on a ventilator until the last possible moment, when it is truly a life-or-death decision, said Dr. Udit Chaddha, an interventional pulmonologist with Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City.

 

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows

 

I assume Thais know about the concern over the use of ventilators and these 406 poor souls are definitely in the last chance saloon and that is the reason they are on them........or as Johnson so eloquently put it....'Operation Last Gasp'....what an idiot.

Daily CV case count now 5000?

I bet it’s nearly 10 times that amount 

same w the 3000 in the prison system!

they don’t have any real estimates in IMHO.

Who really knows WW.

one thing that seems clear is that it’s not going away anytime soon… Thailand now has to make the best of the resources it has available to survive this.

 

2 minutes ago, adam1 said:

another doom-monger....    why are people so fond of doom-mongering and hand-wringing?

 

It's called reality mate.

 

It's a cruel world out there ya know.

1 minute ago, WineOh said:

4,000+ cases today.

 

Bit different from 5/10 cases that were being reported just a couple months ago, isn't it?

 

I'd say the floodgates are now open, and if not they are bursting at the seams. 

there has been a "third ripple" bringing around 2000 cases per day, but this figure has been stable for a week or two now... I heard they are now closing the field hospitals in Chiang Mai because they are not needed. This is at odds with your assessment of the floodgates being opened. I don't think the 2500 prison cases can be reliably added to the figure for the general population, and even if you chose to, then that surely wouldn't have happened in a single day.

 

1 minute ago, WineOh said:

It's called reality mate.

 

It's a cruel world out there ya know.

fearful predictions aren't reality...    they are just predictions

11 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Recognizing that complications from ventilator use can occur, some intensive care units (ICUs) have started to delay putting a COVID-19 patient on a ventilator until the last possible moment, when it is truly a life-or-death decision, said Dr. Udit Chaddha, an interventional pulmonologist with Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City.

 

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200422/most-covid-19-patients-placed-on-ventilators-died-new-york-study-shows

 

I assume Thais know about the concern over the use of ventilators and these 406 poor should are definitely in the last chance saloon and that is the reason they are on them........or as Johnson so eloquently put it....'Operation Last Gasp'....what an idiot.

 

 

Regarding the population of COVID hospitalized patients:

 

--The number of COVID patients hospitalized in critical condition declined a bit from 1,226 to 1,209 over the past day (although today's 32 new deaths probably figures into that change).

 

--the share of those critical patients requiring ventilators to breathe increased only from 401 to 406 over the past day, a smaller increase than other recent days.

 

--because of the influx of new prison cases reported today, the population of COVID patients in some kind of hospital facility increased from 29,378 to 32,661 over the past day.

 

4 minutes ago, adam1 said:

another doom-monger....    why are people so fond of doom-mongering and hand-wringing?

 

Recent studies show that people who are anxious (not stressed), who look on the darker-side of things and tend to contemplate the worst........actually live longer, happier lives.

 

Being the anxious, negative type makes you plan for worst, makes you think ahead........."we" never miss appointments, flights, ferries, we avoid traffic jams, fights in bars etc......... so overall lead less stressful lives. 

5 minutes ago, WineOh said:

4,000+ cases today.

 

Bit different from 5/10 cases that were being reported just a couple months ago, isn't it?

 

I'd say the floodgates are now open, and if not they are bursting at the seams. 

Take out the prison numbers though and we're still at the plateau of 2000 new cases a day which we have been at for several weeks now. Hardly bursting at the seams.

7 minutes ago, adam1 said:

another doom-monger....    why are people so fond of doom-mongering and hand-wringing?

 

Doom-Monger, just a factual post by a poster who posts what he has seen and observed.  Nothing in his post about doom and gloom, just truthfulness. His view of more cases to come based upon the stats and what is posted is not scaremongering either.  You can agree to disagree but stop with the name calling unless you can prove what you say. If so then report the post

10 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Interesting, it looks like they're not counting the Bangkok prison cases as part of Bangkok's province totals.

 

 

 

Prisoners are like migrant Burmese workers, they don’t get counted in the human totals.

2 minutes ago, adam1 said:

5 minutes ago, WineOh said:

 

fearful predictions aren't reality...    they are just predictions

3.3 million dead worldwide.

 

Is that what you call a fearful prediction? 

2 minutes ago, adam1 said:

fearful predictions aren't reality...    they are just predictions

And as SAGE said....in a pandemic you plan and act on predictions.......facts are too late.....by then the pandemic has won.

2 minutes ago, WineOh said:

3.3 million dead worldwide.

 

Is that what you call a fearful prediction? 

Irrelevant. He's talking about the predictions on this forum relating to Thailand.

3 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Does anybody believe in their vaccine? 

Does anyone in their right mind believe in any of them!?

3 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Take out the prison numbers though and we're still at the plateau of 2000 new cases a day which we have been at for several weeks now. Hardly bursting at the seams.

You think, why have hospitals been cancelling tests because of shortage of beds

Just now, edwardandtubs said:

Irrelevant. He's talking about the predictions on this forum relating to Thailand.

How is it irrelevant?

Was it irrelevant when Italy were knee deep in the crisis and warned everyone else of what was to come?

 

Everything is relevant to everything else.

If Thailand does not act swiftly we will end up with a high death rate. 

Hospitals will be overrun and it will be just like India.

 

Hardly anyone has been vaccinated yet so it is the perfect storm. 

1 minute ago, edwardandtubs said:

Irrelevant. He's talking about the predictions on this forum relating to Thailand.

I heard many predictions as well, a particular one doing the rounds for a couple of weeks being that we were over the peak, its over and Thailand has contained it.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

We can clearly see now that transparency in reporting the true numbers is highly questionable. How long did it take to accumulate 2,835 cases in prisons? Is it just a coincidence that they revealed these numbers only after the high profiled cases recently? What if those high profile cases hadn't be revealed would we have got these numbers now?

 

This peak naturally would not just vanish in one day and we should now start seeing a progression on this for all the daily tests carried out in those prisons, if not we know again the numbers are just not accurate.

 

More worrying, this was less than handful of prisons, what about all the other prisons throughout Thailand? When exactly are we going to know the numbers there.

 

I'm sure there's going to be a couple of posters here to try and set us straight and defend this, its going to be amusing to see your attempts.

 

This is a sad reality of the true situation in Thailand that we just got to know about, what else don't we know?

 

 

Testing was probably done over several days and is an accumulated total. Once the protester was released and found positive, mass testing was probably done then. I;m surprosed that proactive testing has not been done (seemingly so) in prisons here, when it has been a problem overseas. Unless the have been and been keeping it under wraps - bit how was that going to work, when prisioners are routinely paroled. 

 

So today they added the prison cases and tomorrow the number will again be around 2000...

 

Great opportunity for tomorrow, as they can the claim a 50% decrease in cases.

3 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

Does anyone in their right mind believe in any of them!?

Thanks to vaccines, 4.5 billion virus cases were averted and 10.3 million lives saved worldwide – including 2.7 billion and 6.2 million, respectively, in Asia alone. In the United States, about 200 million cases were averted and 450,000 lives saved.

 

 

DOH!

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Thailand’s Total COVID Case Count Now Exceeds That of China?

 

Statistics Used by the Government Say Yes, Reality Says Likely No

 

Famous American author Mark Twain once made the now well-known observation – “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”

 

That’s probably an aphorism worth remembering today with the news, depending which source is used, that Thailand’s official tally of total COVID cases, now at 93,794, has either surpassed or soon will surpass the comparable official cumulative COVID case total from China.

......

 

 

Also consider the fact that Singapore, with a resident population of less than 6 million, has had 60,000 cases. It's a small, easily controlled island, technologically and bureaucratically advanced, with a fairly authoritarian government and a compliant population. Yet they still had about 2/3 the number of cases as China claims. That raises a lot of doubt about China's numbers also. On a positive note, Singapore has only had 31 deaths -- largely due to their excellent health care system and the fact that most of the 60K cases were among young, healthy foreign workers.  

Thailand COVID status update and overview from today's EN language news briefing:

 

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I heard many predictions as well, a particular one doing the rounds for a couple of weeks being that we were over the peak, its over and Thailand has contained it.

Good old Anutin........... never fails to fail.

7 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Prisoners are like migrant Burmese workers, they don’t get counted in the human totals.

Numbers from prisons SHOUL be keps separate, so we can see the rate of community spread as a separate rate. This makes epidemilogical sense. If I have 4800 cases in a day, I sure as heck want to know the sources of these infections. 

Just now, Surelynot said:

Thanks to vaccines, 4.5 billion virus cases were averted and 10.3 million lives saved worldwide – including 2.7 billion and 6.2 million, respectively, in Asia alone. In the United States, about 200 million cases were averted and 450,000 lives saved.

 

 

DOH!

Covid vaccines have saved billions of lives? What you smoking there chief?

17 minutes ago, adam1 said:

there has been a "third ripple" bringing around 2000 cases per day, but this figure has been stable for a week or two now... I heard they are now closing the field hospitals in Chiang Mai because they are not needed. This is at odds with your assessment of the floodgates being opened. I don't think the 2500 prison cases can be reliably added to the figure for the general population, and even if you chose to, then that surely wouldn't have happened in a single day.

 

Be careful of posting information which is not entirely factual.  Chiang Mai universities field hospital has closed but the others they have in place are still open and treating patients.  

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000753

 

Certain villages have closed access from outside, and as of today there is no indication they have reopened.

Many villages now closed to outsiders - Chiang Mai CityNews (chiangmaicitylife.com)

 

Chiang Mai International Exhibition and Convention Centre is currently treating about 1,200 patients, while it has a capacity of 1,500 beds.  They are still open as of today.

Chiang Mai to open 2nd field hospital as infections jump (nationthailand.com)