PCX / NMAX Alternative ?

[soi3eddie]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Rack/box on a little bike. It ruins the handling and is horrible for parking - at least for all the other people in that parking area.

You'll be surprised that the ADV150 doesn't feel like a "little bike" and the handling is still great when fully loaded. The suspension on the rear is excellent. Did the Mae Hong Son loop and had a blast. Easily kept up with bigger bikes as was able to brake much later into the corners. As for parking, it fits anywhere another bike does. Guess you love Grab delivery and Food Panda bikes then ????

 

[OneMoreFarang]

8 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

Guess you love Grab delivery and Food Panda bikes then

Normally the delivery guys don't park in the area where all the other bikes are.

 

In many parking spaces (i.e. Terminal 21 is a good example) the parking slots are designed for normal bikes <= 150cc. If anybody has a box on a bike that blocks the way for everybody else. Grrrrr 

[ICELANDMAN]

9 hours ago, coollife99 said:

Thanks everyone

 

i dont like manual speed motorbike at all, i only targeting a automatic scooter like i use here in Europe everyday, that fit my need

 

i was looking at SYM there in Thailand but unfortunatly, the model they have seems  to be outdated ( the old MaxSym and the GTS 300 ) i was more thinking about a Cruisym https://www.symfrance.com/fr/models/cruisym-a-125-euro-5.html  but not aviable right  now in Thailand

 

About KYMCO i was looking at the DOWNTOWN, but  i canot find any KYMCO official dealer in Phuket  / or Thai so you right about maintenance and spare pieces

https://www.kymco.fr/fr/scooters/125/202-downtown-125i-abs  feel free to let me know if you have link to Kymco shops in Thailand

 

Nmax is nice, but a bit small for my height 190cm and 100kg So maybe i should buy a bigger model like Forza 350 or Xmax 300

 

The Burgman 200 look nice too, but Suzuki stop to produce it this year so will be tuff to resale it in futur

 

 

 

 

 

https://electrodealpro.com/standard-abs-suzuki-2021-style-burgman-200/

 

From what appears from this link it would seem that the new model 2021 burgman 200 will soon be introduced in Thailand

 

 

[spidermike007]

The Honda ADV is a step up from the PCX. The Nmax feels a bit more solid than the PCX. But, if you really want to treat yourself, the new 2021 Forza 350 is amazing. I bought one and love it around town, or on the highway. It is a bit large and heavy, so likely not a great choice for smaller guys. At 6' it fits me perfectly. 

[coollife99]

7 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

 

https://electrodealpro.com/standard-abs-suzuki-2021-style-burgman-200/

 

From what appears from this link it would seem that the new model 2021 burgman 200 will soon be introduced in Thailand

 

 

ok so maybe they stop it only in Europe then

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The Honda ADV is a step up from the PCX. The Nmax feels a bit more solid than the PCX. But, if you really want to treat yourself, the new 2021 Forza 350 is amazing. I bought one and love it around town, or on the highway. It is a bit large and heavy, so likely not a great choice for smaller guys. At 6' it fits me perfectly. 

as im tall thats also a point for me,  190cm (6.24") im also looking at the forza now

 

9 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

You'll be surprised that the ADV150 doesn't feel like a "little bike" and the handling is still great when fully loaded. The suspension on the rear is excellent. Did the Mae Hong Son loop and had a blast. Easily kept up with bigger bikes as was able to brake much later into the corners. As for parking, it fits anywhere another bike does. Guess you love Grab delivery and Food Panda bikes then ????

 

Is the ADV 150 ok for tall guy ?

[ICELANDMAN]

On 5/22/2021 at 11:54 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Automatic transmission car: boring.

Automatic transmission bike: boring.  ???? 

 

 

 I agree is not funny but on the city is more relax.

Take care long time your bike bike because the next years you fond for buy only electric bike but connected, lucky step " connected with the police"

[alx123]

Is the ADV dual ABS or single? I'm planning t his to be my next scoot to replace my 6 years old PCX. 

 

I laughed a little when I read that Honda Thailand give excellent customer service. ????

 

 

[Agusts]

55 minutes ago, alx123 said:

Is the ADV dual ABS or single? I'm planning t his to be my next scoot to replace my 6 years old PCX. 

 

I laughed a little when I read that Honda Thailand give excellent customer service. ????

 

 

 

As far as I know, it's front brake that has ABS, and back brake lever uses CBS (combined braking system)..., but from my experience on Forza with CBS + dual front and back ABS, the CBS does not allow the back brake to lock up, if I pull the left brake lever hard I can feel and hear the front wheel ABS is activated....(it maybe like this on my bike but I never got anyone else to test this and report back)...!

 

Also see this link, has good comparison of advanced features on all 3 scooters:

https://www.cheapscooterbali.com/blog/about-bali/comparing-features-of-honda-pcx-yamaha-nmax-and-honda-adv/

 

 

I also laugh at Honda customer service and maintenance being good in Thailand for scooters....! ????????, more of a rip off..., I try to avoid them. (no experience with big wing though).

 

[phetphet]

https://vespa.co.th/

[tlandtday]

On 5/22/2021 at 7:23 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

With bikes there is often no such thing as a "better" bike. What is better? A SuperSport bike or a chopper? There is no "better". And the same applies obviously also for other bikes.

 

Better than the aerox for highway use as well as comfort.  No bike is perfect but I would take the nmax imperfections over the aerox.

[soi3eddie]

2 hours ago, Agusts said:

 

As far as I know, it's front brake that has ABS, and back brake lever uses CBS (combined braking system)..., but from my experience on Forza with CBS + dual front and back ABS, the CBS does not allow the back brake to lock up, if I pull the left brake lever hard I can feel and hear the front wheel ABS is activated....(it maybe like this on my bike but I never got anyone else to test this and report back)...!

 

Also see this link, has good comparison of advanced features on all 3 scooters:

https://www.cheapscooterbali.com/blog/about-bali/comparing-features-of-honda-pcx-yamaha-nmax-and-honda-adv/

 

 

I also laugh at Honda customer service and maintenance being good in Thailand for scooters....! ????????, more of a rip off..., I try to avoid them. (no experience with big wing though).

 

 

The ADV150 sold in Thailand has ABS on the front only. In 12,000kms it has never activated nor have I had to do an emergency braking measure. The rear disc does not have ABS and have never locked or skidded the rear wheel. The ADV150 brake system is NOT linked thankfully (the Click model brakes are linked which I dislike as prefer independant control).

 

I guess I have been lucky at the Honda service dealer I use ???? 

 

[soi3eddie]

3 hours ago, alx123 said:

Is the ADV dual ABS or single? I'm planning t his to be my next scoot to replace my 6 years old PCX. 

 

I laughed a little when I read that Honda Thailand give excellent customer service. ????

 

 

 

The ADV150 sold in Thailand has ABS on the front only. In 12,000kms it has never activated nor have I had to do an emergency braking measure. The rear disc does not have ABS and have never locked or skidded the rear wheel. The ADV150 brake system is NOT linked thankfully (the Click model brakes are linked which I dislike as prefer independant control).

 

I guess I have been lucky at the Honda service dealer I use ???? 

[canthai55]

On 5/22/2021 at 11:54 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Automatic transmission car: boring.

The GT-R can sprint to 60 miles per hour in 2.9 seconds

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, tlandtday said:

Better than the aerox for highway use as well as comfort.  No bike is perfect but I would take the nmax imperfections over the aerox.

I guess if the idea is to use the bike on highways and especially for long trips then the nmax is probably better for that. And for short trips in the city the aerox is probably better...

[BKKBike09]

23 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

The GT-R can sprint to 60 miles per hour in 2.9 seconds

Yeah. There's auto and then there's auto. A good DSG auto will shift faster than any pure manual clutch.

[Agusts]

6 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

 

The ADV150 sold in Thailand has ABS on the front only. In 12,000kms it has never activated nor have I had to do an emergency braking measure. The rear disc does not have ABS and have never locked or skidded the rear wheel. The ADV150 brake system is NOT linked thankfully (the Click model brakes are linked which I dislike as prefer independant control).

 

I guess I have been lucky at the Honda service dealer I use ???? 

 

There are a few websites that say ADV150 has Combined Braking System (CBS) or Combi Brake...., see the links I send in my last post...

 

Also this Honda own website mentions it in specification drop down as "Combi Brake" after the list:

 

https://www.thaihonda.co.th/honda/motorcycle/automatic/new-adv150

 

 

 

[jackdd]

15 minutes ago, Agusts said:

There are a few websites that say ADV150 has Combined Braking System (CBS) or Combi Brake...., see the links I send in my last post...

They are selling two versions, it's either ABS or CBS.

[soi3eddie]

1 hour ago, Agusts said:

 

There are a few websites that say ADV150 has Combined Braking System (CBS) or Combi Brake...., see the links I send in my last post...

 

Also this Honda own website mentions it in specification drop down as "Combi Brake" after the list:

 

https://www.thaihonda.co.th/honda/motorcycle/automatic/new-adv150

 

 

 

 

Missed that. It must an option change for the 2021 model as it wasn't available in 2019/20.