Cautious optimism infects Thailand as mass vaccination heralds reopening

[webfact]

 

By Thai PBS World’s Business Desk

 

The launch of Thailand’s mass vaccination program on June 7 has sparked hope that the country can reopen for tourists and resume normal business activities. But uncertainty remains.

 

The third wave of COVID-19 that erupted in April has stretched the public health system to breaking point as daily cases soar into the thousands coupled with dozens of deaths. New clusters are still being found in Bangkok and other provinces, indicating the disease is spreading and evading controls.

 

The government plans to inoculate 50 million people or 70 percent of the population with 100 million doses of vaccine by the end of this year.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/cautious-optimism-infects-thailand-as-mass-vaccination-heralds-reopening/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-06-10

 

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[Excel]

What utter tripe

[mtls2005]

One day (ok, Tuesday was even better).

 

Doesn't take much for them to get off in anticipation of suckling on the tourist teat.

 

Cautious optimism comes with continued reliable deliveries of AZ.

 

 

 

 

[spidermike007]

Of the 28,000 who came so far this year, no doubt 27,500 were returning expats. Expect 5,000 total for the remainder of this year. 2021 is a write off. 2022 might be better. They might get as many as 500,000, maybe.
2023? If Covid is gone, maybe 2 million. 
Could climb to 4 million by 2024. Tourism here is essentially over, as a livelihood. Too many mistakes have been made. Too many opportunities lost. Trillions of dollars in infrastructure down the drain. Prayuth, Anutin and Phiphat could not have done a better job of sabotaging a vital industry, if they were actually trying to do so. If anyone did not see the reasons to oust these guys before, the vaccination drive alone is all the indictment the nation needs. 

No question, with the exception of some infrastructure, Thailand has been moving backwards for the past decade. On nearly every level. It did have a good run. Those days are behind it. So much self sabotage has been inflicted on this rather resilient nation, it would be a near impossibility for it to pull itself out of the abyss, shake off the molasses, and move forward. 

A very dynamic leader like Thanathorn would at least give the nation a chance at having a future. The current creeps do not. Japanese companies are relocating. Despite the.constant lies, foreign investment is way down. Tourism is all but finished. I understand why nearly a million youth are on FB, trying to figure out a way out. The future must look very bleak to them. For many of us, who are fortunate enough to not have a business here, things are simpler, and less complicated. All we have to do is deal with the continuous daily drivel of these goons in charge. 

This will likely be a two to five year shake out. The financial devastation to the economy here is far worse than the 1997 crash. And it will be sustained. Massive unemployment. Millions are out of work. Tourism will not rebound to any significant degree. The people who made up 70% of Thailand tourism arrivals were crushed by Covid and the economic shutdown. The lower to middle income Chinese, Indians and Malaysians. I predict no more than 5 million tourists annually, by 2025. Let us not forget. There were already countless issues affecting tourism long before Covid. And the two year shutdown will only compound that. Trillions will be lost. 
 

[mtls2005]

Just now, mtls2005 said:

ok, Tuesday was even better

 

[JonnyF]

Cautious optimism?

 

A bit like celebrating victory in the marathon after starting an hour after everyone else and having a good first 500 metres.

[RotBenz8888]

1 hour ago, Excel said:

What utter tripe

What nutter hype

[mommysboy]

UK is experiencing a rapid increase in cases and now hospitalizations, heading possibly to yet another wave even though 80% are thought to have antibodies to covid 19, and it uses 3 highly effective vaccines.    Sadly it looks like the new normal is going to have to be full vaccination, plus some social distancing.  You'd think there must come a time when things return to pre-pandemic normality, but it's a heck of a long way off for Thailand, especially as it has very little natural immunity.

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

UK is experiencing a rapid increase in cases and now hospitalizations

Without you quoting a link, I sort of dismissed your post. 

Out of interest decided to google UK situation over the last week. Indeed a 66% increase in new cases. Concerning.

Ta for UK update. Hopefully short lived spike.

 

[Dialemco]

International tourism will return to Thailand when restrictions lifted but on a much smaller scale. It would help if visa requirements simplified and the visa exemption extended to 60 days together with promotions when it is decided to welcome back visitors.

[Simon Snake]

5 hours ago, Excel said:

What utter tripe

Totally.  How to say a lot of something by saying nothing at all.  

[wensiensheng]

5 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

The interesting thing will be when vaccinations exceed the supply of vaccine they received.

 

hope someone in government is counting.

[Guderian]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The government plans to inoculate 50 million people or 70 percent of the population with 100 million doses of vaccine by the end of this year.

 

Well they're only on day 4 of the mass vaccination programme and they seem to have run out of vaccines already.

I went through the rigmarole of registering on the ThaiIntervac website and booked an appointment at Phyatai2 hospital on 24 June between 14:00 and 15:00 to have the AZ vaccine, and was greeted with a large red box telling me that my appointment had failed due to there being no vaccines left.

Really, Mr. P., you must try harder and do better, now go and stand in the corner facing the wall with your dunce's cap on and ponder your (many) failings.

[tlcwaterfall]

16 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

The interesting thing will be when vaccinations exceed the supply of vaccine they received.

 

hope someone in government is counting.

I hope somebody in the government knows how to count!

[mfd101]

Help! I've been infected with cautious optimism (Delta case).

 

Is there a vaccine against it?

[Thomas J]

Cautious optimism infects Thailand

They better be careful with their choice of words like "infects Thailand"  Those in the government could easily construe  "optimism" as a variant of Covid 19 and we will be in for more measures to stop the spread of optimism. 

 

 

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, mommysboy said:

UK is experiencing a rapid increase in cases and now hospitalizations, heading possibly to yet another wave even though 80% are thought to have antibodies to covid 19, and it uses 3 highly effective vaccines.    Sadly it looks like the new normal is going to have to be full vaccination, plus some social distancing.  You'd think there must come a time when things return to pre-pandemic normality, but it's a heck of a long way off for Thailand, especially as it has very little natural immunity.

 

Whatever comes out of all this, the old normal is certainly over for everyone everywhere ... we can only hope for the best and adjust to whatever the new normal is. It's not inconceivable that masks will be part of life for good. The question is how much disruption will remain.

 

The only good news is that virus mutations that thrive tend to be those that are successful in transmission but don't kill the hosts. Usually. Problem is this beast can hide for up to 14 days before showing its hand.

 

Maybe the best we can hope for is that levels are kept so low that medical treatment is available and services not overwhelmed, that death rates are low, and economies can function reasonably well.

But annual (or even twice annually) boosters seem to be a certainty.

[crazykopite]

Got so fed up of trying to register with different apps for the vaccine I decided to drive to my local Government Hospital the staff at one section of the hospital were busy giving vaccines to Thais . I was directed to a registration room took all of 5 minutes to complete and the young lady told me to expect a phone call in 1 to 2 months where a date and a time would be given to me . I did explain that although fit I was over 70 she told me that the hospital were concentrating on giving the vaccines to Thai nationals first which I understand , at least I am now registered so it’s a case of waiting to be contacted .

[Fex Bluse]

They are salivating no doubt at the announcement of Uncle Sam giving away 300 million doses of quality vaccine.

 

Despite their pride, they seem all too happy to let the Farang bail them out everytime

 

Shameful

[4MyEgo]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The third wave of COVID-19 that erupted in April has stretched the public health system to breaking point as daily cases soar into the thousands coupled with dozens of deaths. New clusters are still being found in Bangkok and other provinces, indicating the disease is spreading and evading controls.

 

Quick run for the hills.....

[Excel]

2 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

They are salivating no doubt at the announcement of Uncle Sam giving away 300 million doses of quality vaccine.

 

Despite their pride, they seem all too happy to let the Farang bail them out everytime

 

Shameful

Well just like the 500,000 Chinese vaccines that were donated to them then no doubt these crooks beg countries to give them it for free and then sell it to their own people. To call them shameless turds would only compliment them

Edited June 10, 2021 by Excel

[4MyEgo]

2 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

I did explain that although fit I was over 70 she told me that the hospital were concentrating on giving the vaccines to Thai nationals first which I understand

 

That you were discriminated against based on your race.

[BusyB]

13 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

That you were discriminated against based on your race.

 

Yeah, that kind of selection seems to have little to do with Hippocratic triage.

[eastendanto]

4 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Without you quoting a link, I sort of dismissed your post. 

Out of interest decided to google UK situation over the last week. Indeed a 66% increase in new cases. Concerning.

Ta for UK update. Hopefully short lived spike.

 

Spike of infections are mainly in the North West of England which is being flooded with door to door Covid testers to try and stop the spread. UK is very near crossing the saturation point of immunisation to inhibit people catching the virus, as of 8th June "40,710,319 people (77.3% of the adult population) have received a first dose and 28,540,844 people (54.2% of the adult population) a second dose of a vaccine" Vax now open to 25 year olds and upwards.

[sqwakvfr]

About the 500 Million Dose US donation, the devil is in the details:

 

President Joe Biden will announce the U.S. has purchased 500 million doses of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine to donate to 92 low-income countries and the African Union, a person familiar with the plan told USA TODAY.

Biden is set to announce the donation Thursday in remarks at the Group of Seven summit in Britain. The doses will be distributed through the global vaccine alliance known as COVAX, with 200 million to be shared this year and the remaining 300 million to be donated through the first half of 2022, according to the person, who confirmed the report on condition of anonymity.

 

1) These doses are not in stock.  These doses have been purchased or will be purchased  You know the entire Order, Production and delivery cycle(which can be long at times). 

2) If it goes through COVAX=WHO then Dr Thedros Adhanom and his gang will probably decide where and how many doses each country gets.  Does Dr Thedros love Thailand?? I hope so.  But Dr. Thedros hails from Ethiopia and the African Union has many low income countries and very little vaccine supply.  

3) This donation will not start anytime soon and will probably ramp in 2022.

 

No need for any of us in LOS to get excited. 

 

For me trying to register for the vaccine has been like ponding my head against a wall(again and again).  I have given up and just completed my ANA booking from BkK to LAX.  Just in time to roll up my sleeve, see the Los Angeles Dodgers and go to In N Out, Chick FIl-A and most importantly "2 Buck Chuck" wine from Trader's Joes.

[eastendanto]

17 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

That you were discriminated against based on your race.

be a long time before woke culture infects the Thairistocracy

[DPKANKAN]

Mass vaccination going on eh!! Only this morning they announced that in Sangkhlaburi in Kanchanaburi Province, they had received ONE, yes only ONE shot of vaccination <deleted>!!!

 

I don't think they should build up there hopes yet somehow!!!!????????????????

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The third wave of COVID-19 that erupted in April has stretched the public health system to breaking point as daily cases soar into the thousands coupled with dozens of deaths. New clusters are still being found in Bangkok and other provinces, indicating the disease is spreading and evading controls.

I'd say the public health system, such as it is has done a sterling job since the outbreak.

What they haven't had is the full cooperation from the government when and where it was needed.

And now they're battling a shortage of vaccines which is compounding their already precious time and resources.

The people working within the "health system" have made it cope, the breaking point comes when government get involved.

[itsari]

5 minutes ago, eastendanto said:

be a long time before woke culture infects the Thairistocracy

Infects ? Strange way to think that you become infected when Thai culture begins being les racist .

[eastendanto]

4 minutes ago, itsari said:

Infects ? Strange way to think that you become infected when Thai culture begins being les racist .

I better woke up as have no idea what you're point is ????