US Embassy - where are you when I need you?

[Wuvu2]

5 minutes ago, fvw53 said:

 

The Russian friends living in our condo got a Sputnik vaccine at their Embassy in Bangkok

Reports that France and Belgium also trying to do the same.

 

Thailand’s public health minister, Anutin Charnvirakul, told the press that he had met with the French Ambassador to Thailand and that the embassy was discussing the process of importing 10,000 doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for French nationals aged 45+ in Thailand.

 

Anutin said that the department of Disease Control agrees to the basic principle and that the vaccines could arrive by at the end of June. He added that any country which is able to take care of its citizens can import vaccines which are registered with Thailand’s FDA to inoculate their nationals.

 

Anutin said an inoculation provision by an embassy can be undertaken at any medical facility and does not need to be on embassy grounds.

[SomchaiCNX]

Don't worry most of you Americans are overweight, obese or diabetic by the time you get 60 and that's more dangerous than covid.

[ChrisKC]

Vaccinating citizens anywhere in the world has nothing to do with Embassies unless foreigners are being unjustly denied during a pandemic in the host country.

 

Foreigners are EXACTLY the same as any other nationality as it relates to possible covid infection and transmission. It is the Host country that has responsibility for ALL citizens in cases of security and the due diligence regarding something as critical as an ongoing pandemic.

 

All this wretched registration problem for foreigners is completely unnecessary as there is no need for a separate arrangement at all. Only needs the same process for ALL citizens currently in the country in two languages preferably Thai language competently interpreted into English.

[ifmu]

On 6/14/2021 at 1:28 PM, mtls2005 said:

 

 

 

 

 

The Department of State does not provide direct medical care, including vaccinations, to private U.S. citizens abroad. We are committed to providing all possible consular assistance to U.S. citizens in need overseas, including by providing information on local medical resources when appropriate. Please follow host country developments and guidelines for COVID-19 vaccination.

 

https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/

our host nation is irresponsible incapable of vaccine distribution 

 

On 6/14/2021 at 1:28 PM, mtls2005 said:

 

 

 

I think our only hope is that the U.S. government donates cash or vaccines to the Thai government, with a proviso that some portion of the vacines are administered to U.S. citizens.

 

Expecting the Embassy to set up a vaccination center is, well, fairy-tale land. More likely to get a pony than a vaccination.

one idea is give the vaccine to thai red cross  they can sell/give it to usa

On 6/14/2021 at 1:28 PM, mtls2005 said:

 

 

 

 

I have to hope that discussions continue after Deputy Sec. of State Sherman's visit with pm prayut here in Bangkok a few weeks ago.

lol

On 6/14/2021 at 1:28 PM, mtls2005 said:

 

 

The two sides agreed on the importance of continuing to work together to combat COVID-19.

 

https://th.usembassy.gov/statement-on-the-visit-of-deputy-secretary-wendy-r-sherman-to-thailand/

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Theory]

On 6/14/2021 at 1:28 PM, mtls2005 said:

The two sides agreed on the importance of continuing to work together to combat COVID-19.

Right !!! ????????

 

[bronzedude]

Don't count on the US embassy for anything. I'v learn that the hard way several times in the past 10 years.

[Thomas J]

I am a U.S. citizen and there are numerous things " I don't get" by my choice to retire in Thailand.  My Medicare insurance that I paid for my entire life is not valid here in Thailand.  Now if I want to be covered by my government health insurance, I have to go back to the USA.  Somehow this idea that the U.S.A. government should bring the vaccine to the doorstep of every expatriate is just simply the " I am entitled" mentality that has gripped a good share of the world's population. 

Alaska is in the USA and some people such as Dick Prenneke "chose" to live in a remote area of it.  Should the U.S. government send a supply of vaccine to him via dog sled too? 

[bert bloggs]

Dont know about the American Embassy but in 27 yrs the British Embassy have been as much use as a chocolate fireguard for anything

[placnx]

On 6/14/2021 at 6:16 PM, KarenBravo said:

 

Of course there are many well informed Americans that know the score. I'm generalising.

Surprised you don't know the difference between communism and socialism.

 

Here's a hint. Norway, Denmark and Sweden are all socialist countries. North Korea is communist.

Russia, China, Vietnam and recently Cuba are no longer communist countries, even though they have authoritarian single party systems.

 

Communism believes that the means of production should belong to the state and has a command economy.

The only country that I can think of that still has a command economy is North Korea.

All the others have embraced the capitalist idea of free markets with the means of production in mostly private hands. When I say free markets, these countries have adopted it to a greater or, lesser extent.

There's another category called National Socialism. Maybe only China fits there, but it's trying to get others to join its way of thinking.

[placnx]

On 6/15/2021 at 2:06 AM, Heng said:

I'd be happy with at least a reduced ACS outreach schedule (instead of completely cancelled).    

Didn't they announce reopening?

[chilly07]

Ditto UK! OK to send Navy including vast aircraft carriers with room for millions of vaccines plus 1000 plus servicemen, OK to donate jabs but not OK to ensure UK taxpaying expats get priority!

[placnx]

On 6/16/2021 at 12:35 PM, Thomas J said:

It is "free for you too"  Try Travelocity or Skyscanner.  Flights are leaving every day.The issue is not the cost or availability it is the fact you believe somehow the government should bring it to your front door to cater to you.  Decisions have consequences.  Your decision to not live in the USA.  That comes with the consequences of not having things as provided to those residing in the USA and not being as convenient. 

 

You seem to assume that other Americans are moneybags or jetsetters.

[Wuvu2]

52 minutes ago, bronzedude said:

Don't count on the US embassy for anything. I'v learn that the hard way several times in the past 10 years.

Unfair. Anytime you need a signature notarized for $US 50 bucks they are there for you...oh except now...

 

America loves to posture as the global hero - hence the 500 million dose giveaway to coincide with Biden's first global engagement. The covid scene is unprecedented in our lifetimes. Just sayin it would be a great time for America to step up and be a hero to it's citizens abroad.

[placnx]

1 hour ago, SomchaiCNX said:

Don't worry most of you Americans are overweight, obese or diabetic by the time you get 60 and that's more dangerous than covid.

Actually, if you get Covid those conditions make it more likely to be fatal. 

[Heng]

20 minutes ago, placnx said:

Didn't they announce reopening?

 

I don't think so, unless they announced it somewhere other than https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/consular-outreach/.  

 

Just to be clear I'm referring to ACS consular outreach, not just ACS services at the consulate or embassy.   

[Heng]

19 minutes ago, placnx said:

You seem to assume that other Americans are moneybags or jetsetters.

 

Agree with Thomas J.... it's a choice along a path of choices.   One can no more blame your doctor for liver cancer, VD, and a raspy voice if you chose a long life of enjoying wine, women, and song.   

[KarenBravo]

40 minutes ago, placnx said:

There's another category called National Socialism. Maybe only China fits there, but it's trying to get others to join its way of thinking.

 

Oh what? Like the Nazis?

[AgMech Cowboy]

On 6/14/2021 at 5:41 PM, GinBoy2 said:

Sometimes you guys amaze me with your doublespeak

Don't lump us all in the same pile.  I knew completely when I came to Thailand that I would need to rely on the Thai medical system.  I knew the Embassy's PRIMARY function was to promote the relations with the Thai government and facilitate business here. The American citizen services are just that, 'services'.

[bendejo]

On 6/13/2021 at 9:49 PM, Wuvu2 said:

If vaccinations can be done in a Costco parking lot

 

Got both mine at Walmart, in the Gardening section.

 

 

[Captain Monday]

Go to Guam for vaccine tourism. Rainy season now however..Japan is giving it away to SE Asia countries for vaccine diplomacy too even though their inoculation program is worst in developed world

 

 

Edited June 17, 2021 by Captain Monday

[1FinickyOne]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

For example?

covid, inflation, violence, mass shootings, political anger and distrust at record levels, justice, accountability, insurrection, pension funds going bankrupt, and major league pitchers using foreign substances... 

 

just for starters..

 

watch the news some time - the empire is in decline... 

 

sure, they used to be called gladiators and now they are ultimate cage fighters or something like that... 

 

 

[placnx]

1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

 

Oh what? Like the Nazis?

Maybe you could try watching today's BBC report of raid on Apple Daily

[placnx]

2 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

covid, inflation, violence, mass shootings, political anger and distrust at record levels, justice, accountability, insurrection, pension funds going bankrupt, and major league pitchers using foreign substances... 

 

just for starters..

 

watch the news some time - the empire is in decline... 

 

sure, they used to be called gladiators and now they are ultimate cage fighters or something like that... 

 

 

I'm getting the sinking feeling that we are entering in to the fourth failed presidency.

[jerrymahoney]

On 6/14/2021 at 5:41 PM, GinBoy2 said:

you have every right to exercise free will, get on a plane and when you arrive in the US go to the nearest Safeway and get a shot.

And a domestic flight in the US these days certainly sounds like fun:

 

3,000 unruly passengers so far this year -- 2,300 cases over mask wearing: FAA
Wednesday, June 16, 2021 4:51AM

 

Acts of aggression are skyrocketing to troubling highs on airplanes.

Airlines have now reported 3,000 cases of disruptive passengers to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) this year, and the vast majority -- 2,300 -- involve people who refused to wear a mask. Those on the front lines have not only witnessed the increase in flight disruptions, but they've seen them become more violent.

The FAA is investigating the highest number of potential violations of federal law in unruly passenger cases since they began keeping records in 1995. The agency has identified 394 cases this year where passengers have potentially broken the law by "interfering with the duties of a crew member."

 

https://abc7news.com/faa-unruly-passengers-federal-aviation-commission-mask-confrontations/10794216/  (with video)

 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

And a domestic flight in the US these days certainly sounds like fun:

 

3,000 unruly passengers so far this year -- 2,300 cases over mask wearing: FAA
Wednesday, June 16, 2021 4:51AM

 

Acts of aggression are skyrocketing to troubling highs on airplanes.

Airlines have now reported 3,000 cases of disruptive passengers to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) this year, and the vast majority -- 2,300 -- involve people who refused to wear a mask. Those on the front lines have not only witnessed the increase in flight disruptions, but they've seen them become more violent.

The FAA is investigating the highest number of potential violations of federal law in unruly passenger cases since they began keeping records in 1995. The agency has identified 394 cases this year where passengers have potentially broken the law by "interfering with the duties of a crew member."

 

https://abc7news.com/faa-unruly-passengers-federal-aviation-commission-mask-confrontations/10794216/  (with video)

 

 

Three thousand out of what, half a billion? 

 

It is amusing that as long as you're nursing a drink you don't need a mask.

 

Too funny...

[Heng]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

Go to Guam for vaccine tourism. Rainy season now however..Japan is giving it away to SE Asia countries for vaccine diplomacy too even though their inoculation program is worst in developed world

 

 

 

Tempting just to see some place new; and no doubt it's much slower paced and quieter if that's something one likes.   If cost is a primary factor it looks much more economical to fly to the mainland.     If taking kids along (and thus having to get the Pfizer jab), three weeks in Guam might be a bit long.

[Yellowtail]

39 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

covid, inflation, violence, mass shootings, political anger and distrust at record levels, justice, accountability, insurrection, pension funds going bankrupt, and major league pitchers using foreign substances... 

 

just for starters..

 

watch the news some time - the empire is in decline... 

 

sure, they used to be called gladiators and now they are ultimate cage fighters or something like that... 

 

 

Is there something new in that?

We seem to be at the tail end of covid.

The administration tells us inflation is good.

Mass shootings are not the fault of the shooters, but of the guns. The administration will eliminate these and all will be good.

Political anger and distrust only hurts those that are angry and distrustful, I am not.

Who is not accountable?

The "insurrection" ended the same day.

The only pension funds left are public sector, and they can't go broke. 

No one cares about major league sports anymore.

 

Read the news sometime.

 

 

 

 

[Captain Monday]

The State department saying from months ago it is policy. They could do it even if the embassy and consulates are not set up to provide medical services, the main problem is optics. Just like Japan where all they would have to do is leverage existing military capabilities it makes the host govt look bad and opens legal questions. Surely the embassy in BKK offered  extra jabs months ago to elites, family of local staff and diplomatic contacts.

[jerrymahoney]

22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Three thousand out of what, half a billion? 

It only takes one per flight.

[SomchaiCNX]

3 hours ago, placnx said:

Actually, if you get Covid those conditions make it more likely to be fatal. 

Exactly my point.