Bar owners in Thailand counting down the days until foreign tourists return

[webfact]

Picture Naew Na

 

Thai media Naew Na spoke to bar owners after Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-o-cha 'ordered' the opening of the country in 120 days. 

 

They didn't say where they went though it appeared to be Pattaya.

 

They had pictures of dusty bar stools piled on filthy pool tables. Banana skins on the floor looked like a metaphor for what has gone before and what might lie in wait.

 

Mayuree, 44, a bar beer (beer bar) owner said the situation was just getting worse and worse, she had no income at all just outgoings. 

 

She welcomed the PM's statement and was desperate to get her hands on foreign tourists' money. 

 

She said she had not been vaccinated and that aspect of reopening needed to be speeded up.

 

Pern echoed those statements saying foreigners were needed to save her business. She was not sure how much the vaccination rollout would affect everything but for her, too, it was just a tale of worse and worse.

 

Chatchai Sakhakul, an owner of pubs in Pattaya, said the situation there had been terrible for ages with the third wave of the pandemic worse than the previous one. 

 

He said he had 100,000 baht in rents to pay each month, water, electricity and needed to open fast. 

 

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[GeorgeCross]

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

..desperate to get her hands on foreign tourists' money

 

you and the rest of the country.

 

 

[Pottinger]

Oh dear, the feeding frenzy come October will make this look like a children's pantomime. Hang on to your wallets!

 

 

[ikke1959]

let's make it 500 days countdown

[ezzra]

Thais are very resilient people, once the country will open up properly you'll see everything will be as they used to be and will not be able to tell that there was a Covid crises that nearly paralyzed the nation...

[AlexRich]

Problem is that Thailand is no where near herd immunity through vaccine and an influx of tourists could accelerate the virus, particularly given that Thailand has attracted a large number of Indian tourists of late. The Delta/Indian variant spreads much faster and Thailand has yet to experience a major Covid crisis. 
 

But it’s encouraging to know that “dirty farangs” are now welcome in Thailand.

[smedly]

an interesting situation when opening does actully happen, 120 days is not possible IMO

 

It happened once already months ago (bars opened) and it was dog eat dog as prices dropped - the winners being an area around LK Metro who shared out the few customers available a mixture of the stranded and the retired, I suspect the majority of which is now just the latter as most of the stranded have already left as furlough schemes come to an end and people have to get back to work

 

If they open in 120 days will anyone be coming - that is dependent on so many things and is as yet unclear in an ever changing pandemic, my guess would be not in any numbers that would make much of a difference

[MasterBaker]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He said he had 100,000 baht in rents to pay each month, water, electricity and needed to open fast. 

doing pretty good, dude! paying 100k a month for empty bar for almost 5 month, business must been awesome!

[Pedrogaz]

I have this horrid feeling that the optimism is overblown and reality will be less fruitful with respect to material rewards for bar owners. I don't think tourists will come back as quickly to Phuket or Pattaya bars as they are anticipating. It took a long time to build up the tourism industry to the behemoth it became. I can't help thinking that the tourists will be looking for bargain prices not taxi mafia.

[zhounan]

Who are those mad people who come to have their movements monitored?

[TigerandDog]

No tourists will be coming except may some expats trying to return. Try 2024 for tourism, maybe.

[ed strong]

3 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Problem is that Thailand is no where near herd immunity through vaccine and an influx of tourists could accelerate the virus, particularly given that Thailand has attracted a large number of Indian tourists of late. The Delta/Indian variant spreads much faster and Thailand has yet to experience a major Covid crisis. 
 

But it’s encouraging to know that “dirty farangs” are now welcome in Thailand.

No ones welcome and no ones likely to go.  You don't achieve her immunity through taking something that lessens your symptoms.  You achieve immunity by being immune!

 

They don't have any data on the long-term immunity these type of vaccines may provide.

 

In fact the data is that they last approx 3 months and then you will require a booster jab. Thats probably why the UK has ordered 500m doses last year for their 40m adults.!

[Justgrazing]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Thai media Naew Na spoke to bar owners after Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-o-cha 'ordered' the opening of the country in 120 days. 

 

Even if the reopening does materialize ( and there's 120 opportunities at least for a about turn on that ) tourism will not return at the drop of a hat to the levels needed to provide succour to the industry .. it will be a slow trickle that will depend as much on the conditions imposed on visitors returning to their home countries as much as the prevailing situation in Thailand .. 

[KC 71]

28 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

No tourists will be coming except may some expats trying to return. Try 2024 for tourism, maybe.

or some business men looking to buy property for the future

[Burma Bill]

counting down the days 

 

Should this read months, even years, and not days???????

[Golden Triangle]

Plenty of old mongers living in Pattaya can't wait to get their decrepit backsides on a barstool again, I'll just wait for the decent restaurants I use to start selling beer & wine again so I can take my Mrs for a decent meal again, got to get my jabs 1st though, that could be a problem ????

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

She welcomed the PM's statement and was desperate to get her hands on foreign tourists' money. 

Yeah that's the scary bit.

[AlexRich]

41 minutes ago, ed strong said:

No ones welcome and no ones likely to go.  You don't achieve her immunity through taking something that lessens your symptoms.  You achieve immunity by being immune!

 

They don't have any data on the long-term immunity these type of vaccines may provide.

 

In fact the data is that they last approx 3 months and then you will require a booster jab. Thats probably why the UK has ordered 500m doses last year for their 40m adults.!

widescale vaccinations achieves herd immunity because the virus has no one to infect. Boosters may well be a fact of life as there is no evidence of yet that vaccines protect forever. 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

They had pictures of dusty bar stools piled on filthy pool tables. Banana skins on the floor looked like a metaphor for what has gone before and what might lie in wait.

The bars will be swept clean briefly, the skins removed to the gutter, the bar stools placed in a row out front where the girls will sit ready, all dolled up for the hotly anticipated and rewarding opening ceremony.... the first punter will be skinned alive.

 

[3NUMBAS]

should be counting the decades

[Bangkok Barry]

Please note and correct me if I am wrong, but the PM did not say 120 days from when. Perhaps he meant 120 days from when everyone in Thailand has been double-dosed, in about 2023.

[ed strong]

19 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

widescale vaccinations achieves herd immunity because the virus has no one to infect. Boosters may well be a fact of life as there is no evidence of yet that vaccines protect forever. 

You cannot compare the covid vaccine to the already established vaccinations as they are not the same, anyway there is potential that the vaccine could cause even less opportunity for air travel.

 

From British airways 17th June 20212

 

'Four members of our pilot community passed away recently. Our thoughts are with their family and friends. However, there is no truth whatsoever in the claims on social media speculating that the four deaths are linked.

[chilly07]

Good plan for bringing in the new year but not sure which one!

[CALSinCM]

Yeah the bar owners can sit in their boarded up bars and watch the tourist walk by.

[CALSinCM]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai media Naew Na spoke to bar owners after Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-o-cha 'ordered' the opening of the country in 120 days. 

Like Boris Johnson "ordered" the opening of the UK?

[CALSinCM]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

He said he had 100,000 baht in rents to pay each month, water, electricity and needed to open fast. 

Wait for it.  220 THB for a can of Leo.

[Deli]

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

large number of Indian tourists of late.

 

Easy to keep them away: 1 beer - 1 straw only.

[johng]

1 hour ago, ed strong said:

there is no truth whatsoever in the claims on social media speculating that the four deaths are linked.

Linked to ?

[DaLa]

1 hour ago, ed strong said:

You cannot compare the covid vaccine to the already established vaccinations as they are not the same, anyway there is potential that the vaccine could cause even less opportunity for air travel.

 

From British airways 17th June 20212

 

'Four members of our pilot community passed away recently. Our thoughts are with their family and friends. However, there is no truth whatsoever in the claims on social media speculating that the four deaths are linked.

BA employ 4,500 pilots. With an average life expectancy of 75 , on average 60 will pass away each year. Thats 5 a month. Presumably mostly all unrelated.

[rcuthbert]

Earth to Aliens "Promote gogo bar (Filled with nude babes) October drink and BF specials."

 

 

We're in Pattaya Toto!" LOL