Thailand reports record high 98 coronavirus deaths and 9,186 new cases

[jerrymahoney]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Considering that the Chile University study said the first dose Sinovac was only 3% effective with the original strain then a fag packet calculation would probably have been good enough..555

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-08/china-made-vaccine-found-inferior-to-pfizer-shot-in-chile-study

 

Sinovac’s Vaccine Found Inferior to Pfizer Shot in Chile Study
By Jason Gale
July 7, 2021, 9:17 PM EDT Updated on July 8, 2021, 6:30 PM EDT

 

Sinovac Biotech Ltd.’s vaccine was less potent than Pfizer Inc.’s at stopping Covid-19 in Chile where the two shots were used simultaneously, allowing the first real-world comparison of the two inoculations. China’s CoronaVac was 66% effective in preventing Covid among fully vaccinated adults, compared with 93% or the jab made by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech SE. 

 

The research shows both shots protect against severe disease. Sinovac’s inactivated inoculation, given to more than 10 million Chileans, was slightly less effective in preventing hospitalization and deaths than Pfizer’s messenger RNA vaccine, which was administered to fewer than half a million people, according to the study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, Macrohistory said:

I actually think it’s useful that there is competition among the multiple vaccine manufacturers because we will ultimately get better products that way.  The Thai government should have known a long time ago that the mRNA vaccines would be superior.  It was complete insanity to ever put faith (and money) in the Chinese vaccines.

 

To be fair, initially all the eggs were in the local AZ basket. Also insanity, or at least high risk in terms of sufficient supply. Then it was the Chinese vaccine insanity.

 

In the early days surely vaccine supplies should have been spread, then focus on the best performers? They were all so new 12 months ago.

 

anyway, given that there is adequate financial and intellectual capacity in the world to pursue multiple vaccine paths, clearly there is an advantage to doing that. Having only one vaccine and then along comes a strain that it is ineffective against, wouldn’t be so great. At least with multiple vaccines, some might still be effective, as is the case currently with delta

[rabas]

45 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 Does "keep distance to walk up and down" mean don't use the elevators (that's assuming your building has them)?

 

This is Google Thai translation from the Thai side. It could well mean travelling up and down in the lift.

[wensiensheng]

18 minutes ago, anchadian said:

249 Army cadets at the Galyani Vadhana military camp in Narathiwat get their Sinovac jab on Thursday. None of them reported any side effects 30 minutes after their shot.

https://twitter.com/Thenationth/status/1415610817358098436

Good they had no side effects. 
 

side effects isn’t really the main issue though is it?

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pathetic, so thin skinned

 

Army files defamation complaint against social media users over “fake news”

Following rumours spread on social media saying Thai soldiers travelling to the US for Pfizer Covid-19 vaccines when they were actually going overseas for parachute training, the Royal Thai Army filed a defamation complaint against 9 people who allegedly spread the so-called “fake news.”

A representative from the army filed a complaint with the Nang Loeng police station yesterday on chief Gen Narongpan Jittkaewtae’s behalf. 8 of the people named in the complaint face charges for posts made on Facebook while the other used Twitter, a source told the Bangkok Post, adding that more people will also face charges.

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/army-files-defamation-complaint-against-social-media-users-over-fake-news

Oh no here we go right down the rabbit hole.  This does get ridiculous to see this idiotic way they try to save FACE. 

[Bkk Brian]

42 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Sinovac’s Vaccine Found Inferior to Pfizer Shot in Chile Study
By Jason Gale
July 7, 2021, 9:17 PM EDT Updated on July 8, 2021, 6:30 PM EDT

 

Sinovac Biotech Ltd.’s vaccine was less potent than Pfizer Inc.’s at stopping Covid-19 in Chile where the two shots were used simultaneously, allowing the first real-world comparison of the two inoculations. China’s CoronaVac was 66% effective in preventing Covid among fully vaccinated adults, compared with 93% or the jab made by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech SE. 

 

The research shows both shots protect against severe disease. Sinovac’s inactivated inoculation, given to more than 10 million Chileans, was slightly less effective in preventing hospitalization and deaths than Pfizer’s messenger RNA vaccine, which was administered to fewer than half a million people, according to the study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

 

I was referring to the first shot you may have missed that in connection with a second shot of AZ:

 

A study in Chile, which has one of the furthest-advanced vaccination campaigns in South America -- mainly with China's Coronavac, has found that a first dose alone does not protect against coronavirus infection.

The study by the University of Chile found inoculation to be 56.5 percent effective in protecting recipients two weeks after the second dose, and 27.7 percent effective within the first two weeks.

But for a single dose, efficacy in the 28 days between the first and second dose was only three percent -- on par with the margin of error in such studies, it said.

 

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210406-first-covid-vaccine-shot-alone-not-protective-chile-study

 

[ThailandRyan]

55 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Nice to see no over-reaction.  A friend of mine had a family member test positive and the Juristic Office went a bit mental and wanted to move the whole family out!

Ergo why our floor was sent to be tested yesterday, maybe they have connections with the BMA where we are...

[wensiensheng]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I was referring to the first shot you may have missed that in connection with a second shot of AZ:

 

A study in Chile, which has one of the furthest-advanced vaccination campaigns in South America -- mainly with China's Coronavac, has found that a first dose alone does not protect against coronavirus infection.

The study by the University of Chile found inoculation to be 56.5 percent effective in protecting recipients two weeks after the second dose, and 27.7 percent effective within the first two weeks.

But for a single dose, efficacy in the 28 days between the first and second dose was only three percent -- on par with the margin of error in such studies, it said.

 

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210406-first-covid-vaccine-shot-alone-not-protective-chile-study

 

From a Thai perspective, it also seems  Delta is the main issue, not alpha or gamma. Although alpha is still producing cases of course.

[wensiensheng]

47 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 In the past week or so, there have been a whole slew of reports by various Thai medical researchers talking about the immunity levels they have found over time in blood test subjects who've had two Sinovac doses and then other variations.

 

The latest I saw in the week was one such researcher claiming re the Delta virus variant that two doses of Sinovac followed by a booster of AZ (the government's current plan for most medical workers) would confer much greater protective immunity than two Sinovac doses alone.

 

But the same report by the same researcher said the Sino/AZ regimen would still provide less protection than two regular AZ doses. 

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-study-finds-2-doses-of-sinovac-cant-beat-delta-variant-astrazeneca-can/

 

"The study reveals that two doses of Sinovac, plus a booster dose of AstraZeneca, can prevent the Delta infection better than two doses of Sinovac, but still less than two doses of AstraZeneca, the doctor said."

 

 

I think this doctor is confirming what most laymen would assume to be the case. Good to have it “confirmed”, although it must have been short term research. 

[LosLobo]

22 minutes ago, rabas said:

This is Google Thai translation from the Thai side. It could well mean travelling up and down in the lift.

Translation from Thai:

3. Residents are asked to make an effort to co-ordinate with each other and don't walk up and down the corridors when other occupants are out of their rooms.

Edited July 15, 2021 by LosLobo

[Rhacsyn]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Amazing news and we know they will give it to the people who need it most, with no detours to Phuket or anyone else who is not on the vulnerable list

I do understand your post Brian, and I would expect it go to the vulnerable all over Thailand, irrespective of what happened previously

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think this doctor is confirming what most laymen would assume to be the case. Good to have it “confirmed”, although it must have been short term research. 

I believe they're simply taking blood tests from inhouse medical staff who've already received two doses of Sinovac and then other comparisons. And then tracking those immunity levels over time post vaccination.

 

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ergo why our floor was sent to be tested yesterday, maybe they have connections with the BMA where we are...

Caution is the key and so it seems your condo building did the right thing. 

[anchadian]

1,439 market workers vaccinated to protect against the Covid-19 virus in Pattaya

 

1,439 market workers vaccinated to protect against the Covid-19 virus in #Pattaya, but the overall allocations of vaccines to Pattaya remains low as the majority continue to go to Bangkok, the center of the current outbreak in Thailand.

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/15/1439-market-workers-vaccinated-to-protect-against-the-covid-19-virus-in-pattaya/

 

 

 

 

 

 

[anchadian]

The number of COVID-19 patients currently hospitalized for treatment rose above the 100,000 mark for the first time today (Thursday) to 103,056, including 3,276 severe cases, as 9,186 new cases and 98 more deaths, a daily record high, were logged in the past 24 hours, according to the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA).

 

Seven new clusters were found in five provinces, with a cluster at a furniture factory in Chon Buri having recorded 87 infections.

 

Of all the hospitalised patients, 58,582 are being treated at general hospitals and the rest at field hospitals.  839 of the severe cases are on ventilators.

More: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/hospitalised-covid-patients-surpass-100000-as-thailand-records-daily-death-toll-high-of-98/

[wensiensheng]

14 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I believe they're simply taking blood tests from inhouse medical staff who've already received two doses of Sinovac and then other comparisons. And then tracking those immunity levels over time post vaccination.

 

Yup, and it must have been for at least a week 5555. Although no time period is mentioned, so for all anyone knows, it was a one off check.
 

None of the recent pronouncements from Thai researchers ever give a time frame, scope or scale. Just a simple statement of this or that.

[riparian]

34 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Oh no here we go right down the rabbit hole.  This does get ridiculous to see this idiotic way they try to save FACE. 

Somebody hurt their feelings.  What would they be like if someone started shooting at them?
 

[anchadian]

People living in Greater Bangkok and 4 provinces in the Deep South (Narathiwat, Pattani, Yala & Songkhla) can register for Sinopharm vaccine on Sunday at 8am on the Chulabhorn Royal Academy website (http://sinopharm.cra.ac.th) or their soon to be released app Cra Sinop. Good luck!

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1415626367824105473

 

[onthedarkside]

A post reporting on a medical journal article has been removed for lacking a weblink to the original source content, along with a reply.

 

[rott]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pathetic, so thin skinned

 

Army files defamation complaint against social media users over “fake news”

Following rumours spread on social media saying Thai soldiers travelling to the US for Pfizer Covid-19 vaccines when they were actually going overseas for parachute training, the Royal Thai Army filed a defamation complaint against 9 people who allegedly spread the so-called “fake news.”

A representative from the army filed a complaint with the Nang Loeng police station yesterday on chief Gen Narongpan Jittkaewtae’s behalf. 8 of the people named in the complaint face charges for posts made on Facebook while the other used Twitter, a source told the Bangkok Post, adding that more people will also face charges.

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/army-files-defamation-complaint-against-social-media-users-over-fake-news

I suppose their defence will be that "it was a misunderstanding". 

Should do it, plenty of precedents. 

[jerrymahoney]

from the New England Journal of Medicine artiicle hot-linked in the Bloomberg article above:

 

CONCLUSIONS
Our results suggest that the inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectively prevented Covid-19, including severe disease and death, a finding that is consistent with results of phase 2 trials of the vaccine. (Funded by Agencia Nacional de Investigación y Desarrollo and others.)

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2107715?query=TOC#article_supplementary_material&uccLastUpdatedDate=2021-07-01 17%3A32%3A16.154 %2B0000

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Yup, and it must have been for at least a week 5555. Although no time period is mentioned, so for all anyone knows, it was a one off check.
 

None of the recent pronouncements from Thai researchers ever give a time frame, scope or scale. Just a simple statement of this or that.

 

Often pretty skimpy on details and somewhat vague. Often originating as Facebook posts by the various Thai doctors involved. It's not ideal, but it's the best we've got on such issues for the time being.

 

I do think, though, it's probably their way of trying to respond to a government that's been claiming for months that Sinovac doses were very effective and adequate for protecting the country's medical workers (not to mention everyone else!).  Even though evidence from outside Thailand's supporting the local doctors' contrary stance been pointing in the same direction.

 

 

[Swimfan]

8 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

No words required.

 

Covid related deaths 3032/372,215 infected = 0.81458297%.

 

If one calculated the above percentage into the population of 67 million there would be 54,577 deaths, about 10,000 more than the 2018 Influenza and Pneumonia figures back then.

 

Am I missing something here ?

Yes you are 

[anchadian]

For those who reside in Chonburi Province and those that have been there during the months of June/July:

 

Still awaiting list 3

 

The Chonburi Public Health Office last night (July 14th) has released a timeline to inform people who went to specific places last month and this month to notify health authorities and monitor their health. The following is an English translation of the release.

 

Editors note: Because the list is so long today we have divided this into separate articles. This is for Pattaya, Nongprue, Naklua. Other areas will be in a separate timeline. Central Festival Mall in Pattaya has closed today, July 15th, for deep cleaning, but plans to reopen tomorrow, July 16th.

List 1 of 3 here:https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/15/timeline-pattaya-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases-many-mall-cases/

 

The Chonburi Public Health Office last night (July 14th) has released a timeline to inform people who went to specific places in Si Racha, Sattahip, and Chonburi this month to notify health authorities and monitor their health. The following is an English translation of the release.

 

This is the second of three lists of timelines for today, July 15th, 2021, as they have been divided by districts due to the number of timeline cases.

List 2 of 3 here: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/15/timeline-si-racha-sattahip-and-chonburi-inform-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases/

 

[rabas]

43 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Translation:

Residents are asked to make an effort to co-ordinate with each other and don't walk up and down the corridors when other occupants are out of their rooms.

A more literal translation from Thai:

 

"Request building residents to mind your spacing while travelling up and down with other residents. "

 

No mention of where so it likely refers to lifts, stairs, and corridors. All travels.

 

[Bkk Brian]

From WHO, Thailand: Time for the government to do the same:

 

Doctors, nurses and healthcare workers have been working long and difficult hours. We've said it before and we'll say it again. "Thank you" from the bottom of our hearts.

https://twitter.com/WHOThailand/status/1415633126273863692

 

[anchadian]

THG confirms deal for 20m BioNTech doses, 1st batch expected this month

 

Thonburi Healthcare Group (THG) chairman Boon Vanasin on Thursday confirmed that THG will sign a deal with Germany BioNTech to import 20 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine to Thailand

 

The move came after Reuters reported on Thursday that both BioNTech and Pfizer denied they were in talks with THG.

"We are not in negotiations with the company," BioNTech said in an e-mail responding to a Reuters query about the deal. It also denied it was in negotiations with any Thai entity.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003288

 

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, anchadian said:

For those who reside in Chonburi Province and those that have been there during the months of June/July:

 

Still awaiting list 3

 

The Chonburi Public Health Office last night (July 14th) has released a timeline to inform people who went to specific places last month and this month to notify health authorities and monitor their health. The following is an English translation of the release.

 

Editors note: Because the list is so long today we have divided this into separate articles. This is for Pattaya, Nongprue, Naklua. Other areas will be in a separate timeline. Central Festival Mall in Pattaya has closed today, July 15th, for deep cleaning, but plans to reopen tomorrow, July 16th.

List 1 of 3 here:https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/15/timeline-pattaya-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases-many-mall-cases/

 

The Chonburi Public Health Office last night (July 14th) has released a timeline to inform people who went to specific places in Si Racha, Sattahip, and Chonburi this month to notify health authorities and monitor their health. The following is an English translation of the release.

 

This is the second of three lists of timelines for today, July 15th, 2021, as they have been divided by districts due to the number of timeline cases.

List 2 of 3 here: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/15/timeline-si-racha-sattahip-and-chonburi-inform-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases/

 

Just send and test all residents, issue solved....

[LosLobo]

25 minutes ago, rabas said:

A more literal translation from Thai:

 

"Request building residents to mind your spacing while travelling up and down with other residents. "

 

No mention of where so it likely refers to lifts, stairs, and corridors. All travels.

 

I disagree on your literal translation.

 

Though I did use a bit of licence, it doesn't mention corridors,

Edited July 15, 2021 by LosLobo

[anchadian]

Expats turning up at Samui Hospital today to register for vaccination were surprised to see this notice about mixing Sinovac and AstraZeneca vaccines. Some left immediately saying they didn’t want to be guinea pigs for an experiment. Would you do this? #Thailand

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1415636072659263490