Covid extension denied

[MrJ2U]

12 hours ago, DDJJ said:

Thank you for the reply Ubonjoe. He was the supervisor who told me to leave the country and not take advantage of the covid extension. I mean, besides the extension fee, I'm spending around 65-80k monthly, more in some months. Planning to go back home in October but I guess the IO doesn't want us around anymore.

Thats the attitude of immigration since the junta took over.

 

 

[Pravda]

12 hours ago, DDJJ said:

. I mean, besides the extension fee, I'm spending around 65-80k monthly, more in some months. 

So what? 

[Solinvictus]

12 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

There is no rule or regulation that states you cannot get another one. Probably just a officer voicing his own opinion.

You should try again and ask to talk to their supervisor about it.

This guy is among the best. Accept his experienced opinion and try again.

[Solinvictus]

12 hours ago, DDJJ said:

Thank you for the reply Ubonjoe. He was the supervisor who told me to leave the country and not take advantage of the covid extension. I mean, besides the extension fee, I'm spending around 65-80k monthly, more in some months. Planning to go back home in October but I guess the IO doesn't want us around anymore.

I spend less as possible and save my salary. 55555555

[EricTh]

Last March until now is 15 months ....! That is even longer than those of us with a yearly visa.

 

I am surprised they didn't ask you to leave after 6 months.

[EricTh]

7 hours ago, easydoor said:

Mr DDJJ,

it is very clear you are abusing the Covid Extension rules. You came in on a visa exemption in March and wants to stay till October, so it is very clear your intentions were to stay LONG. Get a correct visa. Don't forget: a covid extension is in the fist place a FAVOR. It doesn't matters how much you spend, even it is 100.000THB/m

 

What he meant was March 2020 (not March 2021) when the first lockdown started? He is clearly abusing the rules.

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by EricTh

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

With "last March", do you mean March of last year, ie March 2020?

I think so yes, entered March 2020 on a 30 day visa, managed to get extensions ever since, after 15 months they now say bye bye time to go home, holiday is over.

[ubonjoe]

22 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

I think so yes, entered March 2020 on a 30 day visa, managed to get extensions ever since, after 15 months they now say bye bye time to go home, holiday is over.

He did not enter with a visa. He entered visa exempt.

As I have said before it is just the opinion of officer. There is nothing to support his opinion and the order for the 60 day extension is is in the process of being extended again.

[ubonjoe]

9 hours ago, EricTh said:

What he meant was March 2020 (not March 2021) when the first lockdown started? He is clearly abusing the rules.

That is only your opinion and there is nothing that is written to support it in the rules.

[NoshowJones]

15 hours ago, hotchilli said:

If travel is possible to your home country then possibly a Covid ext is no longer needed.

Traveling to your home country is not always that simple, quarantine at a cost, this form and that form, get the Cvirus clearance within 72 hours then flight is cancelled. I am referring to flying to the UK here.

[hotchilli]

51 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Traveling to your home country is not always that simple, quarantine at a cost, this form and that form, get the Cvirus clearance within 72 hours then flight is cancelled. I am referring to flying to the UK here.

That is not Thailands immigration's primary concern.... the extensions were granted for when your home country had closed borders, not if it was difficult.

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

That is not Thailands immigration's primary concern.... the extensions were granted for when your home country had closed borders, not if it was difficult.

They were actually started to replace the amnesty that started in April in and extended serval times.

Part of the reason was that they did not mind people staying since they were putting money into the economy.

And there were still a few countries that were not allowing anybody enter and that included citizens of that country.

[alw22]

11 hours ago, Pravda said:

So what? 

Why do you think Thailand is pushing so hard to get tourists back in the country with Phuket sandbox, etc?   They want foreigners here spending money to boost the economy.  Obviously a big reason they offer covid extensions is to keep us here spending money.  That's why it's ridiculous when you guys say he's abusing the extensions when he's doing exactly what the government wants.

[Pravda]

4 minutes ago, alw22 said:

Why do you think Thailand is pushing so hard to get tourists back in the country with Phuket sandbox, etc?   They want foreigners here spending money to boost the economy.  Obviously a big reason they offer covid extensions is to keep us here spending money.  That's why it's ridiculous when you guys say he's abusing the extensions when he's doing exactly what the government wants.

 

Since when did your monthly spend give you any rights in any country?

[alw22]

3 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

Since when did your monthly spend give you any rights in any country?

Indicators of how much one is likely to spend and the potential benefits to the local economy are certainly factors a country considers when making its rules for visas and tourism, e.g., the covid extension.

[Pravda]

1 minute ago, alw22 said:

Indicators of how much one is likely to spend and the potential benefits to the local economy are certainly factors a country considers when making its rules for visas and tourism, e.g., the covid extension.

 

Not for spending money on groceries and beer.

[5ilver]

Thank you UbonJoe for your helpful inputs always.

 

Whilst I understand that everyone's entitled to their opinion, I just don't get why some fellow forumers find the need to accuse others of 'abusing' the COVID extension. The extension is made available for a price from immigration and it is not something that is dispensed out of charity due to extenuating circumstances.

 

The reality is, and I'm speaking from personal experience, there are folks (like me) who pre-COVID visit Thailand several times within a year to get together with family/friends/loved ones who are based here. This isn't about visa runs to maintain a long term stay in Thailand, but genuine multiple social visits during a time when free travel was still possible.

 

Today, even though "flights home are now possible," the ease of jumping on a flight to reconnect with a loved one here for a couple of days is now impossible. Entry and exit would require 14 days of quarantine both ways so that's a month in a year gone up in a puff of smoke for each trip. If I'm already in Thailand and there's any possibility of extending my stay here until quarantine measures in/out of Thailand (and my home country) are eased, I would 100% do that. Would I be 'abusing' the COVID extension?

 

It's a difficult time for everyone, let's all try to be helpful to each other if we can.

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, 5ilver said:

If I'm already in Thailand and there's any possibility of extending my stay here until quarantine measures in/out of Thailand (and my home country) are eased, I would 100% do that. Would I be 'abusing' the COVID extension?

You can still apply for the 60 day covid 19 extension and you certainly would not be abusing it.

[MayBeNow]

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

He did not enter with a visa. He entered visa exempt.

As I have said before it is just the opinion of officer. There is nothing to support his opinion and the order for the 60 day extension is is in the process of being extended again.

You are incorrect. The rules state: for the reason of covid.

Covid has nothing to do with this. Unless he is from the 1 or 2 countries still sealed off he can catch a plane home. The op is abusing the intended reason for the extensions and should now be removed from the country.

[mommysboy]

20 minutes ago, MayBeNow said:

You are incorrect. The rules state: for the reason of covid.

Covid has nothing to do with this. Unless he is from the 1 or 2 countries still sealed off he can catch a plane home. The op is abusing the intended reason for the extensions and should now be removed from the country.

Your opinion only! Not the rules as stated.

 

I mean if your interpretation is correct, then you just about everybody would be denied, wouldn't they?

Edited July 16, 2021 by mommysboy

[EricTh]

2 hours ago, alw22 said:

Why do you think Thailand is pushing so hard to get tourists back in the country with Phuket sandbox, etc?   They want foreigners here spending money to boost the economy.  Obviously a big reason they offer covid extensions is to keep us here spending money.  That's why it's ridiculous when you guys say he's abusing the extensions when he's doing exactly what the government wants.

 

Thailand wants rich tourists who can spend lots of money and not backpackers on a shoestring budget eating 30 baht plate of rice everyday.

 

 

[EricTh]

4 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only your opinion and there is nothing that is written to support it in the rules.

If I remember correctly, there was a written rule that as soon as the Covid situation in your home country improves, one should go back if one is on a tourist visa or as a tourist.

 

One has to get a letter from his embassy as to why he can't go back in order to have a Covid extension. That is what I remember.

 

With the high percentage of people in USA (50%) , UK (52%), Australia (9%) getting vaccinated (even more than Thailand 4.7%), there's no reason not to go back.

 

Australia had very low rate of infection.

 

Edited July 16, 2021 by EricTh

[Caldera]

7 minutes ago, EricTh said:

If I remember correctly, there was a written rule that as soon as the Covid situation in your home country improves, one should go back if one is on a tourist visa or as a tourist.

 

One has to get a letter from his embassy as to why he can't go back in order to have a Covid extension. That is what I remember.

 

With the high percentage of people in USA and UK getting vaccinated (even more than Thailand), there's no reason not to go back.

 

 

There's no requirement to get an embassy letter anymore. It has been replaced by an affidavit, where an applicant needs to tick boxes as per their situation.

 

The lack of flights back home is just one reason; there are others that are accepted as justification, such as an ongoing outbreak.

Edited July 16, 2021 by Caldera

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, MayBeNow said:

You are incorrect. The rules state: for the reason of covid.

Covid has nothing to do with this. Unless he is from the 1 or 2 countries still sealed off he can catch a plane home.

 

8 minutes ago, EricTh said:

If I remember correctly, there was a written rule that as soon as the Covid situation in your home country improves, one should go back if one is on a tourist visa or as a tourist.

These are the reasons that are in the affidavit for the covid 19 extensions.

[LeatFingies]

What is the covid extension for? Does it imply that you’re not able to find a return flight to your home country in over a year?

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, LeatFingies said:

Does it imply that you’re not able to find a return flight to your home country in over a year?

No

Read the post I did before yours.

[LeatFingies]

7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

No

Read the post I did before yours.

Yeah, looks like I posted right after you. Thanks

[lanng khao]

I've just got back from korat immigration, stamped in till 10 th September,, there 20 minutes, happy days.

[rcuthbert]

If they cancel "Covid Visas" - all the tall Russian babes will go home.

[OJAS]

6 hours ago, 5ilver said:

I just don't get why some fellow forumers find the need to accuse others of 'abusing' the COVID extension.

As far as I am concerned the people who are "abusing" the COVID extension are officers at the rogue Samut Prakan and Nonthaburi immigration offices.